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   Randy Godwinposted 4 years ago

   Donald Trump charges a lot of money for a room at his resorts. Even the Secret Service pays $650 a night for the pleasure of guarding the POTUS,
   
   Vice President of the Trump Co.--Eric Trump--says they are losing money from the SS staying at Trump resorts, but we don't really know because the SS hasn't furnished their bi-yearly expense reports to Congress since 2016.
   
   Does anyone else smell b******t?

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      PrettyPantherposted 4 years agoin reply to this

      I heard on the news last night that they said they "forgot." Now that they have been reminded, how long do you think it will take for them to file the reports? At least until after the election would be my guess.

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      wildernessposted 4 years agoin reply to this

      Interesting thought - that the SS expense report will tell us if Trump Co. is losing money.  Are there any other completely ridiculous notions you'd like to present as a dig at the President?

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         Randy Godwinposted 4 years agoin reply to this

         What's ridiculous about Congressional oversight, Dan?  Are we supposed simply take the SS at their word they're not spending exorbitant amounts of money at Trump owned properties?

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            PrettyPantherposted 4 years agoin reply to this

            Wilderness gets really bent out of shape about poor people receiving government help but couldn't care less about Trump lining his pockets with taxpayer money.

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               Randy Godwinposted 4 years agoin reply to this

               My thoughts exactly, Sandy. What does that tell you?

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               wildernessposted 4 years agoin reply to this

               What has that to do with SS reports and profits by private companies?
               
               Just another baseless, and really stupid, dig at someone that disagrees with your politics, wherein only those approved by you are competent to serve?

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                  PrettyPantherposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                  You have previously stated, more than once, that you think it acceptable for Trump to spend as much time as he wants away from the WH, whether  golfing or at Mar-a-Lago. You have previously stated, more than once, that you have no problem with the SS paying Trump to stay at his hotels, that you have no problem with government funds being used by hundreds of government emp!oyees, elected officials, foreign dignitaries, etc., to stay at Trump facilities.
                  
                  To my knowledge, there hasn't been a single new proposed government  expenditure on health care, child welfare, adult welfare, college education, or any other program to help the disadvantaged that you have supported in the entire time I have been on these forums. Perhaps I missed it, though, so please share if that is the case.
                  
                  Otherwise, what I stated is true.
                  
                  It relates to SS reports of expenditures because some people think it's wrong for a president to profit from the government.  It used to be an accepted tenet of an ethical government. The Trump administration knows this and is not above covering up or lying to avoid exposing Trump's corruption.

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                     wildernessposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                     You're right - you missed it.  Or forgot or ignored it.
                     
                     I have consistently said we need a safety net, and that those in need in our country often aren't getting it.
                     
                     However, I also find that your "disadvantaged" is better termed "unwilling".  When an able bodied person is receiving welfare for years, even for life, it isn't about being "disadvantaged"; it is about spreading the wealth.
                     
                     And THAT I have a problem with.  Earn your way through life rather than demanding that someone else pay for what you want but won't put forth the effort to earn yourself.

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                        Randy Godwinposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                        So you do care if Trump's making money off of the govt, he hadn't earned? Otherwise he wouldn't visit his resorts so often.
                        
                        At $650 a night per SS personnel, this tends to add to a tidy sum Trump's resorts. would otherwise not received.

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                           wildernessposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                           What in the world does that have to do with our welfare system?  Or can you just not get away from the TDS?

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                              Randy Godwinposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                              I haven't mentioned welfare at all, Dan. Welfare has nothing to do with the OP title, right? Are you on the correct thread?

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                                 wildernessposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                                 Did you read the post you purportedly replied to? 
                                 
                                 "I have consistently said we need a safety net, and that those in need in our country often aren't getting it.
                                 
                                 However, I also find that your "disadvantaged" is better termed "unwilling".  When an able bodied person is receiving welfare for years, even for life, it isn't about being "disadvantaged"; it is about spreading the wealth."

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                        PrettyPantherposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                        So, you judge others as being perfectly able to work, as though you know better than those who are tasked with making that determination? Ànd, I noticed you said ZERO about Trump.personally profiting from taxpayer funds.
                        
                        $650 per night per room is way more damaging to the taxpayer's  pocketbook than, say, the $75o per month received by a person the government has determined as not able to work.
                        
                        You didn't say anything to indicate that you care as much or more about Trump lining his pockets with your money  as you care about a person being determined by the government to need financial help.

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                           Randy Godwinposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                           Don't think no one else noticed your point, Sandy. It's okay if Trump pisses away our tax money, but don't give any away to those in need. What a hypocrite!

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                           wildernessposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                           Is $650 per night for a few nights a year, or even EVERY night in a year, more damaging that $750 per month, every month, times several million?  Or did you "forget" that tiny detail; there is one Trump and tens of millions on Welfare, building heavier chains every month to keep them dependent on government?
                           
                           But I've said it before in these forums; it is a very sad person that thinks every other person in their neighborhood, circle of friends or family is either mentally or physically capable of providing for their own support.  Personally I think a lot (a LOT!) more of our fellow citizens.

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                              PrettyPantherposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                              One is unnecessary and unnethcal. The other is, to many people, humane and morally desirable in a country as wealthy as ours. I recognize that you don't agree.
                              
                              And I don't know anyone who thinks every other adult is incapable of providing for themselves.
                              
                              So, to be clear, you have no problem with Trump profiting from  taxpayer funds?

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                                 wildernessposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                                 Fair enough, and I recognize that YOU don't care about the damage to the country and to the individuals that you are training to live on charity rather than provide for themselves.  You seem unable to look beyond the next few hours to the long term results of simply giving people what they want.
                                 
                                 No, Trump may profit from taxpayer funds...as long as it is the cheapest, or near cheapest, path to take.  I certainly do not advocate locking him in the White House for the next 5 years as you appear to.
                                 
                                 Do you recall the screams of outrage when it was discovered that military flights to Europe were spending the night in one of his properties...as they had been doing for years?  Suddenly it is a crime, somehow, because he is President.  This type of behavior is foolish and can only be the result of rather severe TDS.

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                                    Randy Godwinposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                                    Indeed, TDS. Too Damn Smart, to be fooled by the charlatan like his enablers.

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                                       PrettyPantherposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                                       Pretty much all that needs to be said.

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                                       wildernessposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                                       Good answer.  It doesn't address the comment, but a good answer when there is nothing else to say.

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                                          Randy Godwinposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                                          Saying someone has TDS because you disagree with them doesn't address the topic either, Dan. I realize all of the Trump enablers use this silly term because they use it on Fox, and the new Medal of Freedom stooge uses it on his conspiracy centered radio show, but this doesn't excuse otherwise smart people from doing the same.
                                          
                                          To me, it means Trump D--k S---ers

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                                             wildernessposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                                             Yes, you are able to make up different meanings for terms, even when you know what it refers to.
                                             
                                             No one will understand you, but you are capable of doing that.

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                                                Randy Godwinposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                                                Why not simply say I'm a Trump hater with TDS, as is your usual excuse for Trump's lying and unethical behavior. It's really all you can think of when defending the cretin. Certainly, facts aren't part of your argument.
                                                
                                                Hail Limbaugh, Trump's chosen one!

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                                                   wildernessposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                                                   Viewing your posts, the TDS and hate are self evident and don't need repeated.  But your afflictions are not an excuse for Trumps behavior, whether good or bad.

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                                                      Randy Godwinposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                                                      I don't hate Trump as he is too ignorant to despise. His enablers though, is another question.

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            wildernessposted 4 years agoin reply to this

            What's ridiculous is that thinking seeing SS expenditures will show whether or not Trump companies are earning. 
            
            "Vice President of the Trump Co.--Eric Trump--says they are losing money from the SS staying at Trump resorts, but we don't really know because the SS hasn't furnished their bi-yearly expense reports to Congress since 2016."
            
            YOUR words, indicating that if we only had those SS reports of expenses we would know, somehow, whether a profit is being made or not by the vendor they use.  Ridiculous.

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               Randy Godwinposted 4 years agoin reply to this

               What is ridiculous is the SS regularly reports twice a year on their expenses to Congress, but haven't reported since 2016. Coincidentally, the year the cretin took office.
               
               Why are you so angry the Congress has oversight on Trump's jaunts? That's the real question.

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      Live to Learnposted 4 years agoin reply to this

      Everyone should always submit their expense reports. I don't see a need to speculate on nefarious motives but I guess I understand why you would. And pp. I see she chimed in.

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   Trailman01posted 4 years ago

   Yes we do smell it , its mostly from your side of the Trump resist fence however .

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   Trailman01posted 4 years ago

   I know Randy , Start taking Trump hotel charges out of the SALARY TRUMP DOESN'T ACCEPT in fact donates to good causes .

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