Australia shipping alert over massive iceberg

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   rhamsonposted 14 years ago

   Straight from the news.
   
   http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20091211/wl … icaiceberg
   
   More mainstream media hype I guess.

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   Poppa Bluesposted 14 years ago

   Yeah so icebergs are not new. This one has been floating around for 10 years!

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      rhamsonposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      I did not read that in the text. Perhaps you could direct me to where you read that. Thanks.

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   ralwusposted 14 years ago

   I just saw that too. Well ice is heavy and like the shelf of lava in Hawaii every once in awhile the shelf of ice cracks from its own weight and sheds some into the sea.

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      rhamsonposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      The glaciologist Neal Young in this story said it is uncommon and to expect more if Global Warming takes affect.

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   Presigoposted 14 years ago

   Yes it has been dislodged for 10 years, this is hardly new, It was also stated in the text it is "a once in a hundred year event" which would imply it must have occured times before. So there it is.

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      rhamsonposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Where did you get the information that it has been dislodged for ten years?

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         Presigoposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         It is in the first sentence of the article I believe maybe the second. right ast the top at any rate

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            rhamsonposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            Thanks I did not see that.

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               Poppa Bluesposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               That's because liberals and global warming cultists see only what they want to see.

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                  rhamsonposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                  At least I can see I made a mistake.  Your constant chatter and accusatory tone towards others that don't agree with you makes your views  too easy to undermine.  You only contribute to the decay in the collective thought process that already is in decline.

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                     Poppa Bluesposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                     Hmmm...struck a nerve did I?

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                        rhamsonposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                        Your prejudicial rancor does.

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                           Poppa Bluesposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                           Yes of course, prejudicial rancor which is what everyone spouts when their views are not in agreement with the left. Very predictable. You must admit, it is telling how you were able to just bypass that little fact about the iceberg being floating around for 10 years. I don't think you're alone in that. I suspect everyone is guilty of the same. We have our beliefs, and we never want to admit we could be wrong so we seize upon that "facts" that support our belief. It's a shame really. Then throw in an economic interest with a desire for a particular outcome and you pretty much have erased any chance of learning the truth.

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                              Presigoposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                              well stated.

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                                 Poppa Bluesposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                                 Thank you!
                                 
                                 Another truth which the left fails to admit is that the Bush administration, as bad as it was on the environment had policies in place that will reduce green house gasses by 12% without taxing the American public! Under Obama's plan he will increase that to 17%, but he will do so by punishing us all with a carbon tax.
                                 
                                 The left seems to think this is a good idea, as if taxing carbon would solve the global warming problem without any other sacrifice! Scientists will tell you that these planned reduction are meaningless and that drastic measures are needed now to turn things around.
                                 
                                 A carbon tax might make you feel good and quiet your guilty conscience, but it won't solve the problem, at least if there really is a problem and it's as serious as the doomsday predictors are espousing!

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                                    rhamsonposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                                    The funny thing is that while some of what you say may have merit you do it with such distaste and volatile language that you defeat any agreement by doing so.  Maybe we need a little lesson in playing more nicely with others.

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                                 rhamsonposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                                 Not as much as you think.

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                              rhamsonposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                              The funny part about it is I did admit and even asked where it was in the piece.
                              
                              This is something I have caught you in several times without any apology on your part. Usually at that point you launch a diatribe about all that is wrong with the liberals and how it is destroying your individual rights.
                              
                              In my case you chose once again to label and place me in one of your cubby holes of convenience to draw on one of your typical insults.
                              
                              I guess because of this and this and the subsequent dissmissal of the article you think this will quell the sign of change you think you have proven something.  The only thing I can say because of your thought process that ignores all he does not agree with is time will tell.  And thank you for helping to further seal the fate of open minded thinking with your predjudicial rancor.  That is the long version for you.

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                                 Poppa Bluesposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                                 Where did I label you? I only stated my opinion of what I think the left believes. However, if the shoe fits...

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                                    rhamsonposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                                    You always label anyone who disagrees with you.  You can't help it. It is your MO.

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                                       Poppa Bluesposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                                       Well I didn't label you here, you're labeling yourself! Besides, what's wrong with labels? All nouns are labels, that's how we know what we're talking about! You really need to be a little less sensitive!

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                                          rhamsonposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                                          And you need to be a little more caring and accurate with how you are treating this issue.  If you separate the politics from the issue you may see something that can be done about it.  I think your political views cloud your perspective.

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                                             Poppa Bluesposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                                             Caring? No one cares more than me about the environment! You talk about labeling and clouded views you accuse me of prejudicial rancor and you fail to see how the issue of global warming has been politicized by the left! You accept only the conclusions of scientists that espouse the left's position. A group that has received 7 billion dollars of research money from the government! You choose to ignore the many, many scientists that have a different view! And you seem to think a carbon tax is what's needed! Sir, it is not my perspective that is clouded, it is yours!

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                                                rhamsonposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                                                Who ever said I supported a carbon tax?  Oh yeah you assumed I did because of your claims of my being a liberal.  I on the other hand separate the science from the politics and think we need more concrete agreement between the sides on the data before any effort can be directed or accomplished.
                                                
                                                The real area I have contention with you is your insistence that Global Warming is not happening at all and that because of it we should drop the whole issue. 
                                                
                                                I on the other hand want to attack it in the middle where some common sense can dictate how we should proceed.  Do I agree with the Copenhagen meetings if there is compromised data involved?  Absolutely not!  But should we stop the whole search for information after it is over? Absolutely not.
                                                
                                                The biggest shame would be marginalized efforts and extreme expense wasted and let the issue fall into the dealt with category when the conference is over.

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         Ralph Deedsposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         It's in the linked article above. Too bad they can't capture the fresh water and put it to good use.

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            rhamsonposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            Correct me if I am wrong but wasn't ten years ago one of the peaks in the Global Warming data?

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   Presigoposted 14 years ago

   This is of course one small part of a proccess, Without icebergs the ocean would become to rich in minerals, thus causing some species that live in the oceans to no longer exist. It helps to dilute the concentration. Then storms come and take the fresh water and deposit it on the lands in the form of rain. Giving landbearing species the ability to exist. Its a beautiful cycle that brings life wherever it is encountered.

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   alexandriaruthkposted 14 years ago

   Oh I saw that in the news today, it is going to be cold summer in Australia

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   rhamsonposted 14 years ago

   @Poppablues
   
   Here are some more sky is falling articles you might like to dispell.
   
   http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/20 … 154833.htm
   
   http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/20 … 120714.htm
   
   http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/20 … 132029.htm
   
   http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/20 … 105739.htm
   
   http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/20 … 104743.htm
   
   You can't see the ice melting for the Liberals.

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   tantrumposted 14 years ago

   that's enough kiddies! Go back to class !

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   tantrumposted 14 years ago

   Good ! I see you went back to your  lessons !

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      tantrumposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      NOT !

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    Uninvited Writerposted 14 years ago

    But obviously, it has moved closer to Australia in those 10 years or there would not be an alert.

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    sneakorocksolidposted 14 years ago

    They need to break it up! Wheres the Titanic when you need it?

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