What happens if you become a fan whore?

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   hot dorkageposted 15 years ago

   What if you just go down the list of all hubbers and automatically fan everyone.  I know in a lot of sites this is considered a negative thing to do and it will drop your reputation or whatever.     What happens to fan whores on hubpages?  Someone who knows please tell.

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      Eric Graudinsposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      Well, here's a hubber who makes it a practice to fan everyone.
      Check him out. And his hub score.
      Join the dots, and you'll have an answer to your questions.
      
      http://hubpages.com/profile/robertkelleher

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   Maddie Ruudposted 15 years ago

   At a certain point, if the number of people you're becoming a fan of greatly outweighs the number of fans you yourself have, it may negatively affect your HubScore, but the average user has nothing to worry about.  If someone is systematically becoming a fan of every single user that indicates an attempt to game the system (either for backlinks or in an attempt to get masses of fans), and behavior like that is penalized.

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   Rochelle Frankposted 15 years ago

   Like anyone here, I am always happy to see a new fan.  As soon as possible, I try to read one or a few articles by the person who has joined my list.
   
   If I see similar interests and a pretty good grasp of language, I usually jump into their fan list because I want to read more from someone who has commented on my hubs.
   
   When I see that someone has just added 347 fans to their list in a matter of an hour or so-- I don't think they have even tried to read anything of mine or anyone else's.
   
   I also like to  be early to comment on a new hubber that shows talent or promise. I know I was VERY encouraged when I quickly got a nice fanmail from Lissie as my first fan. She is Awesome! Her encouragement got me hooked on this.
   
   Though I haven't always done it, I usually try to write a response to a hub I have recently read and enjoyed or appreciated -- and a comment to the fan list.

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   topstuffposted 15 years ago

   Fan=Fan

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   hot dorkageposted 15 years ago

   Thanks  for the answer.  I have a great bunch of fans.  Any one can feel free to join them.    
   
   Now another question re comments  Lets say there's a brand new hub and I am the first to comment on it.  Will that help my rep more than if I am #15 and jump on the bandwagon and if so how much?      And non HP members how can they comment on a hub?  Only thumb up?
   
   And OK lets say I fan someone and then go for three months without reading hub of theirs and they have written 20 new ones.   Would I be penalized for that, i.e. would it be better for me to unfan them?  And if they hadn't written any new ones I should not be penalized because there's nothing new to read and I still like them.  Ahhh.... the data mining possibilities are endless. 
   
   Personally, I think fan clubs should be de-facto and not de jure but those numbers would be tricky to crunch and it is so much easier just to have people declare it.     
   
   Come on Maddie, just get the Deedster to send me  source code. 

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   pauldeedsposted 15 years ago

   Our scoring system is pretty good, but we're not conceited enough to think that is completely immune to manipulation.  That's why we keep some of the details to ourselves.  Warning to scammers -- if you do find a good way to manipulate your score  I'd advise you not to go overboard.  If you're score gets too out of whack with your actual contribution you can be sure we'll notice and do something about it (it's also a violation of our terms of use)

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   hot dorkageposted 15 years ago

   Please understand everybody that I ask these questions from curiosity and not from any desire to scam anyone. I am the author of several web apps where we had user contributed content and we were constantly fighting scammers who tried to force their spammy crappola into every possible nook.  Just go to Yahoo Pipes and you will see what I mean.   
   
   I like to see good quality rewarded and also to have measures to keep it from too heavily weighted toward an internal popularity contest like some sites have fallen to be.  I'm sure that's hubpages goal too, right after making MONEY. 
   
   The problem is that artists spend their time to produce good stuff but don't  have the salesy mindset to promote it even legitimately.  Scammers crank out crap by the cartload and spend their energy gaming the systems.  Some algorithms are highly flawed, like Epinions (why I don't write there any more).  In Epinions if you made a tight package with economy of wording and there wasn't that much to say to begin with you could never score high with it and it hurt your overall score.   They much preferred mountains of unnecessary verbiage even about something mundane like Tylenol.    I hated those long boring reviews, yet if I rated them negatively because they were overly verbose, then my ratings would fall because they disagreed with all the rubber stampers who rated them highly because the highly rated people rubberstamped each other.  Circular, eh?  I found out how the algorithms worked by running afoul of them by being honest and NOT playing the game everyone else was playing. 
   
   Reducing a complex profile of opus and behavior to a simple numeric rating that is fair and can't be gamed is a tricky business.  Well, clearly posting in forums seems to be pushing me up the ladder.     But I will only continue doing it as long as I have a question to ask or one that I can answer.
   
   From what I've read of Paul Deeds in the forums, our brains work very much alike. 

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   4NuzeLetrposted 15 years ago

   Join my fan club

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      darksideposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      You have no hubs.

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   glassvisageposted 15 years ago

   I feel so guilty when people ask me to be in their fan clubs... hopefully that won't mean a lower Hubscore! lol

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    Rik Ravadoposted 15 years ago

    Interesting example Eric - I wondered why his Hubscore was so low! 
    
    Once again proves the old adage that its better to be write good, original CONTENT and not worry too much about fans, hubscore etc. or how the scoring algorithms work.

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    Janet21posted 15 years ago

    Is this a fan whore?
    
    Fans: 693
    Hubs: 4
    Joined: 4 months ago
    
    I came across a hubber w/ these stats today.

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       relacheposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       You're thinking of it backwards.  The term is being used to refer not to how many fans you have, but to someone who joins tons of other people's fan clubs you join. 
       
       However, I find it highly suspect to presume that someone here for such a short time with so few hubs has so many fans by natural means.  I smell something ham-like...

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    broalexdotinfoposted 15 years ago

    I think there is no point in joining someones club, or becoming a fan of that user if not interested in the hubs he/she publishes. I`d like to thank all my fans.

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