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   Harvey Stelmanposted 14 years ago

   How long does this last for?

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      darksideposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      TOS = Terms of Service.
      
      If it's further discussion from other threads you've made, your account has been shut down for a "TOS violation". No one would say that you've been shut down for a "TOS".
      
      How long does a ban from Google's Adsense Program last for?
      
      Forever.

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      relacheposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Once you've agreed to or accepted an organization's terms of service, they are in effect.
      
      And just in case anyone is unclear (or in denial about how the TOS work), it's your responsibility to read and understand any and all terms before you indicate that you will accept the TOS.  Because failure to understand does not absolve you of your responsibilities in regards to the terms in action, or any repercussions that might result from a violation.

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   Denno66posted 14 years ago

   Um, as long as you want it to?

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   Denno66posted 14 years ago

   Bad Denno. I don't think that's what Harvey was asking.

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      Harvey Stelmanposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Dennos,
      
      I'm glad all three of you replied.

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         Denno66posted 14 years agoin reply to this

         

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   Faybe Bayposted 14 years ago

   I do not know what TOS is?

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      Denno66posted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Yup. Same here.

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      AEvansposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Terms of Service it is o.k. not to know all of us have had to learn abbreviations and so many of us are still learning.

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         Faybe Bayposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Oh

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   Faybe Bayposted 14 years ago

   Thanks thought I was stupid or something.

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   wyanjenposted 14 years ago

   Harvey, are you asking about a TOS violation?
   
   Who's terms of service are you asking about?

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      Harvey Stelmanposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      wyan,
      
      My ad-sense account. A friend thought she was helping me.

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         Cagsilposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         And yet you've started another thread dedicated to you bitching about adsense.
         
         Is that all you do is complain when things do not go your way? Or is that you simply refuse to understand that the mistake was actually yours for the blame?
         
         Either way, this isn't productive and apparently, you are fault for not accurately reading the TOS of adsense to begin with.
         
         Had you read it, not interpret it, then you would have known that you discussing your ways of earning with others, could lead to consequences, such as the termination of your adsense account.
         
         This is all I'm going to say on the topic. The fault is yours, not someone else. Do try and have a good day.

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            Harvey Stelmanposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            cag,
            
            I see I shall have to spell things out for you very carefully. This is NOT like anything else I have posted. Since ad-sense would not answer any correspondence I sent, I came here for an answer to a question I have never asked.
            
            That being; can I be reinstated? Your comment about bitching is not exactly pleasing to me. Have I ever insulted you? If you don't like what I say; why respond. Silence is a virtue, you should try it some time.

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         Marisa Wrightposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Yes Harvey, and this has been discussed several times on various threads.
         
         Once you've banned from Adsense, it's forever. You are right, they won't listen to explanations.  Their view is - ignorance is no excuse.  So you just need to get over it, there's nothing you can do.
         
         As others have told you, there are other ways to make money online.  Stop wasting time bitching about what you can't change, and get on with investigating new options.

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            Harvey Stelmanposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            Marisa,
            
            What you stated is all I wanted toknow, at least you didn't get nasty like above.

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         1974posted 14 years agoin reply to this

         That right there is why I don't tell any friends about AdSense or how it works.

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   logic,commonsenseposted 14 years ago

   I thought that TOS was the result of T.S. Eliots wife putting his initials on her ass!

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      blondepoetposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      haha Logic no wonder I love u.

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         china manposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Nah its short for TOS-ser after putting up hate threads about Islam disguised as "Oh dear look what some nasty man sent me" in at least three threads.

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         logic,commonsenseposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         You are my inspiration BP!

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   skyfireposted 14 years ago

   Is it about Adsense TOS ?

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      wyanjenposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      I think so. Harvey's had some trouble with it recently, but I'm not sure what his question here is.

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      Harvey Stelmanposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      sky,
      
      Yup!

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      Harvey Stelmanposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      skyfire,
      
      I received the response I needed.

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   maheshpatwalposted 14 years ago

   yeah i too think that harvey is talking about GOOGLE ADSENSE TOS violation...... has your acount also been disabled by google for TOS violation sir??

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      Harvey Stelmanposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      mah,
      
      Yes, and they would not listen to my explanation.

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    rajan1311posted 14 years ago

    Its really stupid.... i got the same status "disabled for TOS violation" ...i had asked around on adsense forum, no one there had any answer why they did it...

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       skyfireposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       He got that status cause he's banned for invalid clicks. We're not aware of your case. Maybe your application got denied when you applied (?) from affiliate settings. [i'm not sure about you]

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       Marisa Wrightposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Rajan
       
       I've seen you mention this and I suggested you email the team at HubPages, because it could be a glitch in your account.  Have you done that yet?

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          rajan1311posted 14 years agoin reply to this

          yes i did shoot them a mail. They said that they can not do anything from their side and i should contact the adsense team. I just started a thread in the adsense forums and no one there could help me much on that....so i have just started writing for forums as of now...thanks for you help..

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       Harvey Stelmanposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       raj,
       
       There doesn't seem to be any answer, but Google's lack of answers.

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    Nelle Hoxieposted 14 years ago

    I believe Squidoo might be an option for you Harvey. If I'm reading their Payment FAQ properly everything goes into their account and then is divided up and sent out via PayPal. So you earn on their account - not yours.
    
    But certainly read their TOS and rules again - don't go by me. I keep thinking I'm going to build lenses and never get to it.

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       EmpressFelicityposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       I joined Squidoo a while back and produced just one lens.  Haven't been back since, because I found the site to be unbelievably S-L-O-W.

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          Harvey Stelmanposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          Empress,
          
          I did the same.

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       darksideposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       I hope this is advice that Harvey seriously considers.

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    thisisoliposted 14 years ago

    He was only asking about the length of the ban, and unfortunately the answer is usually forever.

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       blondepoetposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Nicely said

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          Harvey Stelmanposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          Blondie,
          
          Thank you also.

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       Harvey Stelmanposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       this,
       
       Thank you for understanding.

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    Ohmaposted 14 years ago

    no getting around them

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       Harvey Stelmanposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Ohma,
       
       They keep all monies from before anything happened; what a racket!

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          Ohmaposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          Harvey I am sorry this is happening to you. I really do not know what to say about it as you have been offered some very good advice from others. While it may seem wrong to you I am sure that Google did not get as far as they have without understanding exactly what they can and cannot do. I am sure that if they are doing it it is legal.

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             Harvey Stelmanposted 14 years agoin reply to this

             Ohma,
             
             It is definately legal! My complaint is that they would not communicate with me. Also; how can I stop anyone from clicking?

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    darksideposted 14 years ago

    Harvey, how's the discussions going with your lawyer? You going to go for the class action? Because Google has heard your explanation and I guess their non-response means that no further discussion will be entered into nor will they be changing their mind.

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       Harvey Stelmanposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       dark,
       
       I'm too ill to carry on a fight.

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          darksideposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          Sorry to hear about your ill health Harvey. Organising a lawsuit is hard enough for someone who's feeling in a fit and fine condition.
          
          The Google Adsense Team don't give second chances. They have hundreds of thousands of Publishers and who knows how many thousands apply each day, so losing a few hundred every day would be of small concern to them.
          
          I'd be doing as Marisa suggests and investigate new options. Squidoo has a different feel to it, and may feel difficult at first for a long time hubber, but once you get used to it it's almost as easy as publishing a hub.

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             Harvey Stelmanposted 14 years agoin reply to this

             dark,
             
             I wrote once on Squid and got zero responses. I was advised what to write about by a media savy friend.

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             Harvey Stelmanposted 14 years agoin reply to this

             dark,
             
             It must be great to almost have a monopoly.

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