Diablo III will be made for console - what are your thoughts on this?

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   JohnGreasyGamerposted 12 years ago

   Blizzard Entertainment knew Diablo III would be a hit, and they could also see it as "an unworthy attempt of a sequel" (dubbed by some players). The franchise has been a must-have for any RPG gamer who's looking for a bit of HeXeN thrown into their top-down fantasy game. But what do you think about this being on console?
   
   Now, please try to understand that I'm not a Diablo gamer, and this is based on two days worth of looking forward to getting the game. Furthermore, what I've heard isn't from sources I'd normally turn to on the net, and few friends have proof of Diablo coming to console. However it has been stated that Blizzard Entertainment are hiring staff to make the console version of Diablo 3 - not just a cheap console port.
   
   I personally think this is a good opportunity for Blizzard to reach further out to a wider audience. They did it was Starcraft 2, though not having played that, I can't say how it turned out on console from experience.
   
   But what do the Diablo veterans (do you have particular group, like "The Diablous" or something?) think of this? Will it affect the online community and reputation of the franchise? Will you give it a shot?
   
   I'd like to know from every gamer and player out there - what do you think on this matter? Will it be good for accessability on XBOX 360, Playstation 3 and (deity forbid) Nintendo Wii? Or will the game be overwhelmed by overexpecting players who whine about movement controls and attacks?
   
   I - and the rest of the Diablo community - would love to know your thoughts! ^^
   
   

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      SimeyCposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      I actually got critisized on one of my Hubs for commenting that the PC version's menus system etc. was aimed at the console market. Several players told me it wasn't going to be released on Consoles - however, you can definately see it is setup for easy transition and I'm sure Blizzard designed the interface with that in mind!
      
      Personally I hope it goes to the consoles for several reasons:
      1) I'll get a lot more traffic to my Diablo III hubs
      2) Opening it up to a larger audience can only be a good thing.
      
      I understand a lot of people think it is a poor game, but as a hardened Diablo player it's refreshing to have a game that is simple to play and is extremely addictive. Sure the graphics could be better, and it could be a more involved RPG but then it wouldn't be a true Diablo game!

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         JohnGreasyGamerposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         I'm glad to know you're here SimeyC, as you've done quite a few Hubs on the game itself, the bosses, the content and so on. Plus, you're a hardened Diablo Fan, so that's always welcome!
         
         I think you're right on the last part definitely about "improvements" would take the soul away from a new body. I suppose if you want better graphics and involvement, there's over thousands of other RPGs out there to play ^^

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            SimeyCposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            The 'beauty' of the game is the game play not the scenery. Having to team with friends, or playing just 'one more' level, or finding ways to get past the bosses - that's what makes the game so good for me.
            
            I've played most of the big RPGs and they really don't have the same addictive quality....

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               JohnGreasyGamerposted 12 years agoin reply to this

               Now that's what I like to hear - it's all about the game and not its cosmetics. I play a lot of video games and find that there's not enough immersion to them. From what I see in Diablo's games, I see "classic" in big bold lettering, welcoming anyone who embraces it.
               
               This also applies to films - The Expendables (2010 version) has a huge famous cast and lots of explosions, but how come it can't beat a film with only one member of The Expendables? Danny Trejo in Machete, was the example ^^

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   WriteAngledposted 12 years ago

   I got this game thrown in for free with my WoW sub. I had a look, but don't think I'll bother. From what I saw, it seems incredibly primitive; all you do is click to move around, open chests and shoot things. Also, the graphics are very primitive.
   
   Yet I know people go on and on about it. What exactly is the attraction?

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      waynetposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      I personally find them types of games tedious! I prefer games that are more fun like Mario or Sonic! and leave these types of games to the unwashed gamers who live for games!

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         SimeyCposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Hey I wash at least once a month

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         Cagsilposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Tedious? Interesting assessment of Diablo the game itself, much less the expansion packs and additional versions.
         You don't have to live for games to enjoy Diablo. As for unwashed gamers? Never met one yet.

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         JohnGreasyGamerposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         You know waynet, I'm the same - I much prefer platformers because they're so hard to screw up. Agreed, TMNT has done it once or twice on the Nintendo Entertainment System. Plus, I like to be mobile like in Sonic the Hedgehog. Impedements to movement are bad at times, but when done properly or are necessary (like in Diablo), they work pretty well.

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      Anna Betliskeyposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      I have to laugh about the graphics.  I thought as well that the graphics were no big deal, that is until I installed the game on my computer.
      
      I've been able to play any games on my computer for the longest time and it turned out that I actually had to go out to frys and purchase a brand new top notch video card in order to even be able to play the game!

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      William157posted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Obviously you're a WoW gamer, so I can explain why people like Diablo 3 in WoW terms.
      
      Content:
      In WoW, you kill stuff, gain loot and level up. This process is basically the same in D3. Instead of hitting max level and farming endgame content, you just restart the game on the next difficulty when you beat D3. This basically makes the entire game the "endgame." As you might imagine, that's a sizable slice of content.
      
      Loot:
      There are four difficulties, each with upgrades to the loot that drops. Unlike WoW's meticulously-handcrafted stats on every item, Diablo 3 randomly generates items. Like WoW, there are divisions to set apart Rare items from Epic or Legendary.
      
      TL;DR: Unlimited loot, monsters and gameplay; no monthly fee.
      
      See also: My article describing why Diablo 3 takes full advantage of video gaming in general.
      
      http://william157.hubpages.com/hub/5-Re … ideo-Games

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         WriteAngledposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Actually, the main reason I play WoW is because I like wandering around the fantastic scenery!
         
         That is why I cannot see the attraction of such as ugly-looking game as Diablo III. To me, it looks like the sort of thing people play on their mobile phones when they are bored (I don't, I read booms instead!).

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            William157posted 12 years agoin reply to this

            Well, if you don't like it I can't change you mind. But those are some of the reasons people are going ga-ga over the game.

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            JohnGreasyGamerposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            You have a good point about fantastic scenery, WoW certainly delivers there. But believe it or not, people are comparing WoW's graphics to Diablo 3, saying that the latter is "too much like the former", and they "want back the gloomier and darker feel to the game". As said before, I haven't really played the game that much though what I've seen so far is pretty grim. ^^

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               SimeyCposted 12 years agoin reply to this

               Gothic 4 had some of the best graphics seen in a RPG video game. The quality of the ocean and some of the scenary were fantastic.....
               
               ....it was a very very very very poor game!
               
               Dragon Age 2 featured exellent graphics - it was a mediocre game.
               
               Minecraft has pretty poor graphics and yet is a decent and very addictive game.....

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                  JohnGreasyGamerposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                  Agreed on DA2 and MC, though I haven't played Gothic 4 yet. I really need to get round to that ^^

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                     SimeyCposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                     Gothic 4 wasn't as bad as I said perhaps, far better than Gothic 3 - but didn't have the depth of a Dragon Age - was also a little too much like a Fable type RPG (which I also felt DA2 was like!)

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      gamergirlposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      I'm entertained by this assessment - given that Diablo 3's graphics FAR OUTWEIGH World of Warcraft.
      
      In any case:  Diablo isn't supposed to be on a console.  I MUCH prefer it as a PC game.

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   Anna Betliskeyposted 12 years ago

   Great topic... I have heard of Diablo my whole life, as it has been very popular since the first one, but never played it... Until recently that is.  I gotta say, I have never been a fan of click to move games but for some reason I really like this game.  So I have to vote up on my personal play experience.  I'm actually waiting for the servers to come back up so I can spend even more time hah!
   
   As far as putting this out for console, I can see it working I played a game awhile back on the xbox(years ago) similar to the functions within diablo and I loved the game, I just can't remember the name of it.  I think it's a smart move.
   
   But will I be paying another 60 something dollars to play it on a console? No, not when I already have it for the pc.

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      William157posted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Was Torchlight the game you played?

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         JohnGreasyGamerposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         From what I've played on Torchlight, the game is somewhat comparable to how I imagine Diablo (1, 2 and 3) to be like. Just been watching Angry Joe's BETA plays on it ^^

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         Anna Betliskeyposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         I can't remember the name of the game for the life of me, i want to say it had dragon something in it perhaps... lol

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      JohnGreasyGamerposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Also to Anna Betliskey, I don't think the game will cost £60 / $60 when it goes onto console because it will be a while before its released. Furthermore, it didn't take Starcraft 2 long to be reduced to the normal retail price of £29.99 and lower (on PC).
      
      I've also seen Diablo 3 for £33.99 online in Gamestation, and £44.99 as retail. So I doubt it will be 60 [currency] upon release for console, and if it is, that's a shameful move that people won't fall for.

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   William157posted 12 years ago

   I think it will be a good day for console gamers when Diablo 3 is released on the consoles. Torchlight (a popular and fun Diablo 2 clone) came out on consoles after a popular release on PC and Mac. I played Torchlight on PC, so I can't speak to how it played with a controller. People seemed to like it, though.
   
   Blizzard has a reputation for taking the time they need to make the game as perfect as possible for the platform (alliteration!) and this will be no different. I don't know how they'll handle the auction house, though. Most of that stuff requires typing; entering anything on the 360's onscreen keyboard is a tedious affair.

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      JohnGreasyGamerposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Actually, you have a fair point about the typing. However, I don't think on console there will be an auction house due to online capabilities not being comparable to PC. However, there is an alternative to the onscreen keyboard which is the "Windows Live Messenger Kit", which contains a headset and a keyboard. However, these keyboard buttons are stiff and not very reliable.
      
      I think the controller would work similar to that of Dragon Age, where players pull the Left and Right triggers to find their bindings, and use A or X for standard attacks.
      
      As for the Playstation 3, I don't know about that. Can't see this working on Wii either haha

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   Cagsilposted 12 years ago

   I personally don't care if they make it for consoles. I don't own a single console.
   
   As long as it is made for computers, then I have no problem.

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      JohnGreasyGamerposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      I like your approach to the matter there Cagsil, but 90% of people who have argued against this idea are on the PC playing Diablo III. Then again, those who complain about it coming onto console (who are console gamers), don't really have an argument - it's something else to add to their video game library. ^^

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         Cagsilposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         I have every version of Diablo for the computer.
         
         Diablo
         Diablo: expansion pack Hellfire
         Diablo II
         Diablo II: expansion pack
         
         I don't have Diablo III as of yet. I cannot afford it as this present time. The money is better spent elsewhere. Luxuries/toys are not much of an option for someone who is in my position.

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            SimeyCposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            Cagsil - do you want a free trial up to the first boss in Diablo III? When I purchased the game it came with some 'cards' that I can give to people that allows them to play up to the Skeleton King - it'll at least give you a feel for the game......let me know and I'll 'send' the registration info through 'contact me'....tonight...

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               Cagsilposted 12 years agoin reply to this

               That would only tease me with which I would be unable to do anything about it.
               
               Thank you, but no thank you.

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   WriteAngledposted 12 years ago

   Surely WoW or any other game is about what each individual finds in it.
   
   Aesthetics matter to me so I like the scenery. I like wandering round, spending time fishing, and so on. I've been playing for two years like that now and have not got a single alt beyond 55 yet.
   
   After several very unpleasant experiences with random dungeon groups, I only do low-level dungeons on my own. I refuse duelling invitations and do not do battlegrounds. The point where raids will be the only thing left to do will be the point when I stop playing.
   
   I'm happy playing the way I do. It is a fun way of relaxing and gives me hours of amusement for a tiny monthly payment. I'm happy, and I guess Blizzard is happy getting my money, and I am not impinging on how anyone else plays WoW!

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      SimeyCposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      WriteAngled: you are absolutely right - and for that reason you'd probably also love Skyrim as it has stunning scenery. There's nothing wrong with enjoying a game the way you do - and each player has his own subjective view of every game.....

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         JohnGreasyGamerposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Very good point WriteAngled, and I'd also try SimeyC's recommendation of Skyrim. In fact, be sure to try out Oblivion, a personal favourite which bumps up the soundtrack by MILES and has some inspirational backgrounds. ^^

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   Astra Nomikposted 12 years ago

   Both Cheeky Girl and I are hardened converts to the Blizzard game Diablo. Diablo shold be released on every platform. The video previews are stunning. The characters and the levels are amazing looking and the tricked out weaponary and spells and powers all look like they will do nicely. Remember the first 2 games were made for the PC and could be played with just a mouse. 

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      Cagsilposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Hey Astra Nomik!
      
      Long time no see. Great to see you on the forums. Also glad to hear you're a DIE-Hard Diablo player.

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      JohnGreasyGamerposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Excellent contribution to the discussion Astra Nomik. How would you feel about plugging a USB controller (i.e the XBOX 360's) into the computer and playing it? Would you use it or promote it? How about flaws?

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   melbelposted 12 years ago

   I'm a WoW fan, but I just never got into Diablo. I played Diablo II because my friends all did, but I didn't love it. I like the pretty scenery in WoW and when I got D3 thrown in with my WoW subscription, I installed it, but was disappointed. I enjoyed Torchlight a bit and was hoping the graphics would be a little bit closer to that, but they still feel very D2. Of course, that's classic Diablo.
   
   I'm just a WoW player, I like to jump around in pretty lands and level different skills and do battlegrounds. I know WoW is very much about leveling, leveling, and more leveling, but there is so much more to it than that. Diablo feels like leveling is pretty much it.
   
   As for any game being released on a platform, it doesn't really affect me. I don't own a platform.
   
   I should check out Skyrim.

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   Ghostwolfeposted 12 years ago

   If it moves to console it is going to lack a lot of what the PC version holds. IF anyone remember Final Fantasy XII I think it was that was a big hit on PC as an MMORPG and when it came to consoles everyone was jumping all over it, though it lacked the controls that the PC had and it wasn't as player friendly when it came to using spells, selecting weapons and so on. You also had to DL a 5GB installer that would allow you to play on the servers. The only benefit of that was you were playing with PC/PS2/PS3/360 players so it was a larger community of players. You also had the extra bonus of another subscription added on to the one you currently have.
   
   Now if Diablo III goes console it is probably going to have some type of DL that will contain the battle dot net installer and server information to play with everyone. Though with already paying a subscription for xbox live you will have the added bonus of paying a subscription for diablo III as well. I don't think this is going to happen anytime soon if at all and if it does it wont be till sometime in 2013 that it does and not until after E3 2013.
   
   Like WOW which was suppose to go to console and didn't because it was realized that you are limited to your consoles hardward and with all the updates it could clutter up your HDD within a matter of months leaving no room for anything else.

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