Yikes! Meds Being Given to Under Three's!

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Kathryn L Hillposted 9 years ago
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/17/us/am … .html?_r=1

Is this for real?

It is alarming!
RIGHT?!
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  gmwilliamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  Now that's alarming. Not only alarming, but ABUSIVE. Children need to be spoken to, not medicated. Children are deemed to be extraneous instead of the precious entities they are. It is much easier to medicate than to educate. Everything must be FAST and EXPEDIENT it takes TOO MUCH WORK to really assess children, especially children who are deemed problematic. Oh no, it is too difficult to assess but far MORE EASIER to just sedate children so they are manageable.
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  Kathryn L Hillposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  Exactly.
  
  Here is the Constitution for W.H.O:
  THE STATES Parties to this Constitution declare, in conformity with the Charter of the United Nations, that the following principles are basic to the happiness, harmonious relations and security of all peoples:
  Health is a state of complete physical, mental and social well-being and not merely the absence of disease or infirmity.
  The enjoyment of the highest attainable standard of health is one of the fundamental rights of every human being without distinction of race, religion, political belief, economic or social condition.
  The health of all peoples is fundamental to the attainment of peace and security and is dependent upon the fullest co-operation of individuals and States.
  The achievement of any State in the promotion and protection of health is of value to all.
  Unequal development in different countries in the promotion of health and control of disease, especially communicable disease, is a common danger.
  Healthy development of the child is of basic importance; the ability to live harmoniously in a changing total environment is essential to such development.
  The extension to all peoples of the benefits of medical, psychological and related knowledge is essential to the fullest attainment of health.
  Informed opinion and active co-operation on the part of the public are of the utmost importance in the improvement of the health of the people.
  
  Governments (!) have a responsibility for the health of their peoples which can be fulfilled only by the provision of adequate health and social measures. !
  
  ACCEPTING THESE PRINCIPLES, and for the purpose of co-operation among themselves and with others to promote and protect the health of all peoples, the Contracting Parties agree to the present Constitution ...
  http://apps.who.int/gb/bd/PDF/bd47/EN/c … 1&ua=1
  
  Maybe we, as (extremely) concerned citizens, should get on this before THEY do.
  well, someone needs to.
  Doctor's?
  The President?
  Mothers?
  Fathers?
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  colorfuloneposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  It is sad and horrifying. Every mass shooting from 2011 to the present has two things in common, guns and powerful psychotropic drugs that the shooters were taking or had recently been taking.
  http://ssristories.org/
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  Kathryn L Hillposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  + infinity.
  
  Thank you.
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  colorfuloneposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  I don't even wonder if there is a conspiracy against our children (or the unborn children).
  
  There are many reports of babies and children dying after being vaccinated. But, it doesn't stop, its the law.
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  peeplesposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  Love seeing common sense colorfulone. You are so right!
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  colorfuloneposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  Words cannot express how I felt when I stumbled-upon that in-depth research.
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DasEngelposted 9 years ago
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Kathryn L Hillposted 9 years ago
TO ALL STUPID LAZY PARENTS:
WAKE UP!
Take some child development classes and read The Absorbent Mind and The Secret of Childhood!!!!!!

And Thank You! G.M. Williams!
I don't Know what else we can do.
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Kathryn L Hillposted 9 years ago
http://ssristories.org/category/researc … -children/
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Kathryn L Hillposted 9 years ago
"The report, which found that toddlers covered by Medicaid are particularly prone to be put on medication such as Ritalin and Adderall…"

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/17/us/am … .html?_r=1

The Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act significantly expanded both eligibility for and federal funding of Medicaid.
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  DasEngelposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  Should they be given 'OptiMind' and such?
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  Kathryn L Hillposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  NO.
  If Obama care/ Medicaid is doing this to toddlers, we need to de-fund it.
  
  We need to do something about this.
  It should ne illegal. Young children need to be monitored until six to be sure how to treat them.
  I personally do not believe in giving a child psychotropic drugs ever.
  There is a way to deal with them naturally.
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  DasEngelposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  I'll rather recommend Ayurvedic treatment. :-D
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  Kathryn L Hillposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  Here is the thing, D. E.
  
  The children are the way they are supposed to be. There is NOTHING wrong with them. Young children are very hard to deal with. They are exploring their environment non-stop. They are building their neurons and synapses. The psyche as I always explain is building itself via interacting with the environment.
  
  It is exhausting to look after a toddler. Absolutely exhausting. Yet this is how the child grows. Adults just don't know how to deal with their children.
  Adults who put their babies in daycare are causing them to become confused and forlorn.
  They need the comfort and guidance of Mom. No one else will do.
  And they need to nurse for bliss and comfort to get them through their baby and toddlerhood.
  
  The anti dote is not optimind or drugs.
  It is love.
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  DasEngelposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  100% agree.
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  DasEngelposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  All that said, the structure of the world is yet pretty complex.
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  Kathryn L Hillposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  It just takes good old fashioned common sense and patience.
  Is that really so hard?
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  DasEngelposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  If we (voluntarily) don't want to be patient and sensible - then it's hard.
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  Kathryn L Hillposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  They have never had to be sensible and patient. They have been sheltered from real life. Natural life is challenging. I think we are very much separated from who we really are.
  We have been dumbed down.
  The instant gratification offered by the modern world through technology doesn't help.
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  DasEngelposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  Once we get off these monitors, we are different people?
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  Kathryn L Hillposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  ha ha ha !!
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  DasEngelposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  Maybe, who knows, we're really different people then!
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  Kathryn L Hillposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  Surely you have a memory!
  
  I guess I am the one of the lucky ones.
  
  I make sure to take days at a time off the computer. It is good for me, I think.
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  DasEngelposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  Me too. I tried to live inside the Intel processor once, though.
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  Kathryn L Hillposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  'The traditional path to helping people suffering from (ADD/ADHD) has been to load them up on medications like Adderall and Vyvanse to help bring clarity to an otherwise clouded mind.
  
  However, these drugs come with a host of side effects and issues. In recent years, a completely new industry of supplements has spawned in the hopes of helping people with and without ADD/ADHD control their symptoms. These supplements are called Nootropics, and one such supplement I recently got a chance to test is called OptiMind. So what is OptiMind, and does it really work? Read on to find out more.
  
  What is OptiMind?
  
  Formulated by the same company who developed AllerAdd, Optimind is an all natural nootropics supplement that is designed to promote laser focus, increase memory cognition and energy, and help improve overall drive. Since this product is so new to the market, there are very limited reviews and testimonials from OptiMind customers. I would say that you should start seeing talk on nootropics forums and the like within a few months, maybe even sooner.
  
  It uses a complex blend of ingredients that include GABA , DMAE , Caffeine , Huperzine A, Phosphatidyl L-Serine, Choline , Alpha Lipoic Acid, Sulbutamine, Vinpocetine, Bacoside A, Green Tea Leaf extract, L-Tyrosine, Taurine, Vitamins B-6, B-12, and D-3."
  
  http://www.supplementcritique.com/optim … ally-work/
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  DasEngelposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha!
  
  On a side note: I like this in-depth 'OptiMind' review.
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Kathryn L Hillposted 9 years ago
But yes, it is sad when both parents must work.
It is sad when parents cannot afford houses and must raise their children in apartments with no yards.
When children are not to walk home alone after school or play pick-up games on the streets,
when they are expected to get scholarships to make it through college and must excel in a particular sport from the time they are in first grade.

Those who eventually do graduate from college start life with huge debt.
Life is way more complicated than it should be and

I might add

ridiculous.
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  DasEngelposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  What do people do who have a lot of cats? They neuter them.
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  Kathryn L Hillposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  Yes.
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  DasEngelposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  It sounds strikingly similar to the core concept of Buddhism: "Life is pain, and pain in due to desire; and it's wise to cleanse all desires".
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Kathryn L Hillposted 9 years ago
Seriously… In the seventies we were all about everything natural.
We had a sense that nature was best.
I even used cloth diapers.
and washed them in a stream.
(I lived in the mountains between Napa and Sonoma. I moved there because I wanted my son to be brought up in nature. We lived by a waterfall, and at night it was pitch dark, the owls hooted ...)
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  DasEngelposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  Does the sun shine there?
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  DasEngelposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  @DasEngel: "Silly question!"
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  Kathryn L Hillposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  That year it rained a lot. Then we moved to Mendocino where I lived in a fixer upper.
  There were frogs and bats in the house. I had to turn on a generator to pump well-water.
  I rode my bike to the beach with my toddler in a back carrier. The water of Pudding Creek ran across the sand on its way to the ocean and was solar heated. We spelled words in the sand.
  Now I live in the city. I feel cramped.
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  DasEngelposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  Where did the drainage water go - what was it connected to?
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  Kathryn L Hillposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  Septic tank holds it and then it seeps out gradually.
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  DasEngelposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  No, the water that was generated out of everyday activity, like dish washing, bathing, etc.
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  Kathryn L Hillposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  Yep. It all drains into the septic tank.
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  DasEngelposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  So, was that a 'sustainable' living in that sense?
  
  Edit: There is also the additional issue of waste-management.
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  Kathryn L Hillposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  If you use a generator.
  and the money to buy the gas for the generator. :-)
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  DasEngelposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  What about the health of the porous-aquifer? :-D
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  Kathryn L Hillposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  You pour in a product in to help dissolve and break down the wastes. I forget the product.
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  DasEngelposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  I see. Then it's fine.
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  DasEngelposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  Better query: Did it help, improve, add something? And, what happened next?
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  DasEngelposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  @DasEngel: "Too silly!"
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  Kathryn L Hillposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  @ DasEngle:
  Thanks for asking
  
  My point is we need joy to raise children and only nature can give us true joy.
  
  well, we also need modern conveniences too.
  
  We need a balance.
  Back to nature is what we need to bring back balance.
  
  TWISI
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DasEngelposted 9 years ago
I feel the real solution lies in a radically different spiritual approach that covers the totality. I'm not trying to market myself. But I think something like that, if done publicly, would really benefit humankind and all the rest who are connected to us.
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  Kathryn L Hillposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  what is totality?
  holistic?
  I agree.
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  DasEngelposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  Yes. I feel our reality (our perception of reality) is too much fragmented.
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  Kathryn L Hillposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  Yes. Spirit exists. We need to sense it, feel it.
  Like the original Asian immigrants did for eons of time here on this continent.
  I still think they have something to teach us.
  as do the Eastern religions.
  Krishna explains Christ.
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  DasEngelposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  The problem is that I can not trust them.
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  Kathryn L Hillposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  trust who?
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  DasEngelposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  Christ, Krishna etc.
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DasEngelposted 9 years ago
Spirituality, true spirituality, is yet an unexplored subject and region. The way I see things.
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  Kathryn L Hillposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  Yes. it is irritating to not be able to go to where you are supposed to go.
  But, one night God said this to me:
  I sat there trying to get in the mood to meditate and I said:
  God, I do not want to meditate and there is nothing I can do about it.
  He said, "Wanting to know Me is everything."
  Just wanting!
  
  That made me happy.
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  DasEngelposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  There is no central-figure, and no central philosophy etc, that we can really count on and thus, have some real (re)assurance.
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Kathryn L Hillposted 9 years ago
I think we come to earth knowing there is a God (Mighty Triple O. Omnipotent, Omniscient, Omnipresent.) I think knowing God is very natural.
We have to convince ourselves there is no God. It is easier to believe in God than not.
The way I see it.
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DasEngelposted 9 years ago
Maybe, the world is waiting. Maybe, they have been waiting.
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  Kathryn L Hillposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  That is a nice thought.
  who wouldn't be waiting?
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  DasEngelposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  Those who never die.
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  Kathryn L Hillposted 9 years agoin reply to this
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DasEngelposted 9 years ago
Spirituality should be a bit scientific. Everyone must be able to test the 'experiments' and get similar results. It must happen before their own eyes and souls.
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  DasEngelposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  This is where Krishna, Christ etc fall short.
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  Kathryn L Hillposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  How about Sri Yukteswar?
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  DasEngelposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  That must be the guru of your favorite guru?
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  Kathryn L Hillposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  He is my favorite guru of my guru.
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  DasEngelposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  Haha!
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  Kathryn L Hillposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  precisely.
  
  There is a way to tune in. It is not just nothingness.
  it is Somthingness!!!!
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  DasEngelposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  If anyone, ever, does it for the entire world, we might have a new world that very day.
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  Kathryn L Hillposted 9 years agoin reply to this
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DasEngelposted 9 years ago
It's always very nice to have these amusing discussions with you. Maybe, we're just winding up our mutual delusions on this website's platform. Or, maybe, we're getting something.
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  Kathryn L Hillposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  I think we are getting something. But then, I am not afraid to. :-D
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  DasEngelposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  Ha-ha-ha! Like that courage.
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HerbalApothecaryposted 9 years ago
Sadly this is nothing new; I was one of the first test kids in my area (North Dakota) for Ritalin in 1989. I was 5. This is the reason I stand firmly behind herbal/natural medicines.
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  DasEngelposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  What are your opinions about Ayurveda and its medicines?
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  HerbalApothecaryposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  To be quite honest, I am completely unfamiliar with it. i am currently grilling Mr. google about it
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  DasEngelposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  Do tell me what you find on the first page!
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  HerbalApothecaryposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  Stop me if I've misread, but so far I'm getting that its an ancient Indian system of medicine that is based strongly in herbal remedies (quite advanced and complicated chemical synergies from what I'm gathering) and Buddhist spirituality....am I close?
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  HerbalApothecaryposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  It seems somewhat close the the north american shamanistic practices I'm more familiar with
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  Kathryn L Hillposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  why were you given Ritalin?
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  DasEngelposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  Leave him alone. He's my friend!
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  HerbalApothecaryposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  The original diagnosis was ADHD, though that was not the case. The Ritalin ended speeding me way up. I have been diagnosed quite often over the years, the last one theat was settled on was bi polar/schizo-affective and PTSD
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  Kathryn L Hillposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  Yes, but you said you were only five.
  What did they think was wrong with you?
  Maybe N O T H I N G !!!!
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  DasEngelposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  Mental illnesses can actually be (outward) manifestations of spiritual problems. I don't think tablets and capsules ever cure a mental disease.
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  HerbalApothecaryposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  The main source of my problems was a huge spiritual imbalance from the years of abuse by my step father. I was an angry and extremely disturbed child. Only many years later did I learn that a Shaman must go through trials that would destroy lesser men so that they could truly understand healing.
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  DasEngelposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  I'm glad that you've finally found your way.
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  Kathryn L Hillposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  pot ain't gonna help.
  
  either
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  DasEngelposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  You are being watched! Forget everything else!!
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  HerbalApothecaryposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  Kathryn Im afraid I will have to politely disagree with you on the issue of pot. but i must ask how one person can know what is beneficial to another person?
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  Kathryn L Hillposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  pot is bad stuff. It is very yin. it creates an acidic blood stream/ body condition. In fact it softens/weakens the gums. Bad for circulation and health. Just get rid of the stress in your life. We need motivation and robust mental health through joy of life.
  Joy of life is the ideal.
  How to find it is the question.
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  HerbalApothecaryposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  MY body chemistry is strongly acidic to start so it only compliments the balance. As for the gum disease and poor circulation, those are not problems inherent to THC or Cannabis in general but rather the unfortunate side effects of a primitive intake method, ie combustion. Weve come quite a ways with convection heat sources for the use of vaporization. I could write a list of cannabis related health facts but Im sure you've read them all before. what it comes down to is personal freedom to define what it is that brings happiness into your life. If partaking of a naturally occurring herb brings me great joy and inner peace then I believe i have very right to proudly partake of that plant. Our paths to that joy of life you speak of are all different, and if we do not walk the same path, you cannot know what things will trip me or help me.
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  Kathryn L Hillposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  We are to use our wills. Pot takes away strength of will.
  It is self-inducing temporary (?) metal retardation.
  Joy of life comes from within. Joy is being in touch with the joy within us.
  That in touch-ness is obliterated by pot.
  Any bliss that comes from dugs is temporary, therefore false.
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  HerbalApothecaryposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  Perhaps this is a classic case of eastern and western views on spirituality and medicine clashing, I don't know, I only know what works for me
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  HerbalApothecaryposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  If that were the case, then my smoking pot would be self defeating; the pot would make me retarded as you so subtly put, Id lose my will, and the first person that came along telling me pot was bad would sway my view and Id quit smoking. The very fact that I instead stand up and express my views in a calm and collected manner seem to dictate that my will is indeed intact.
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  Kathryn L Hillposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  Yet you have no further ambition than being a handyman?
  My brother started out as a pool man and ended up with a crew. He just payed off his house and purchased the house next door.
  
  If you get off pot, you will be fine.
  better than you are.
  
  I would say you need to eat better. no processed sugar and no white flour.
  eat brown rice and vegetables and greens greens greens. but not that other green.
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  HerbalApothecaryposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  Now your simply being insulting. the reason why Im nothing more than a handyman is because of the degenerative disc s I have. I had my own roofing crew at one point, with 45,000 a year and no one to answer to, but its rather hard to keep that up when you can barely bend over.
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  DasEngelposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  If you're willing to share with us: How did this all start? This series of ill fortunes?
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  Kathryn L Hillposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  Roofs????
  
  You gotta have yer head on straight for that kind of work! as in NO POT! ha ha I hate being on roofs.
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  HerbalApothecaryposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  I never smoked before I got on a roof, trust me, I hate heights.
  Are you talking about my back? Its a birth defect. My hips are far radiated from my spine which has a lot of pressure that builds up in my lower back. I've dealt with at as long as I can remember
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  Kathryn L Hillposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  are you tall?
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  DasEngelposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  OK, what are your thoughts on acupuncture?
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  HerbalApothecaryposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  My personal experience with is non existence, but what I've studied about how the chi points and the central nervous system of humans line up leads me to believe that there is fact to it. I can also attest to personal stories of it's benefits from various associates which further leads me to believe there is more to it than simply tossing needles randomly at someones back. I'm afraid that on the topic of eastern spirituality and medicine m not the most fluent.
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  DasEngelposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  You're very interesting. What do you do, professionally?
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  HerbalApothecaryposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  Thats a bit of a sore point. I'm currently a out of work free thinker....was that too pretentious? between my mental illness and my degenerative back I live off my disability and various sources of income I pull in through being a "rent a husband". Handyman stuff, fix a pipe, patch a wall, replace a window etc.
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  DasEngelposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  So, what are your plans for future?
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  HerbalApothecaryposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  Honestly? I would love to move to a legal recreational state and work on opening an all herbal remedy store (that includes cannabis). Id work on breeding and growing new strains suited for specific ailments
  (not only cannabis strains but work with breeding and enhancing all kinds of herbs).....Im a plant lover all around, so the idea of being able to grow ALL my own meds and to be able to present as a product i could be proud of would be a dream come true.
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  DasEngelposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  But to make it come true, you must have sort of a blueprint: a practical strategic plan. Are you working on it?
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  HerbalApothecaryposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  Yes and no, mostly just saving money and learning what I can about running a practical business at this point. I have family that cant just pack up and move so Im trying to take care of the financial end of getting us to a state that offers the chance first before i really start drawing up blueprints. Its something Im taking my time to do right, which isnt the easiest for me. I tend to rush in, seat of the pants style. thankfully a wife and child mellows a man out
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  DasEngelposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  You're killing me with that attitude.
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  HerbalApothecaryposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  How so?
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  DasEngelposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  You have a godlike attitude. Do you like people with godlike attitude?
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  DasEngelposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  Which state is it that you're planning to settle in?
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  HerbalApothecaryposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  I apologize if I come across as arrogant... I really don't mean to do so. I honestly don't even know how I go about coming across in such a way. Your not the first to tell me I come off as arrogant or snobbish. Colorado is what I'm looking at right now. I ve never seen the mountains.
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  DasEngelposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  Well, sometimes, the most important fact isn't how much cash we have in our bank accounts - but how much guts we have in our heart and soul, that really matters.
  
  I love playing. I hope you do not take my playful jokes seriously, or consider them to be offensive.
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  HerbalApothecaryposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  you've come on one of my many faults, i tend to take everything seriously. I gotta remind my self to relax and laugh sometimes.
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  DasEngelposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  Appreciate your frankness. Many of us do not have that much courage to admit our own faults.
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  HerbalApothecaryposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  Mine are too many and too obvious to lie about about. I really hate that i seem arrogant in my speech and writing. I'm truly not at all. I try to keep myself humble, although i do fail often. So what about you? What can i learn you my friend? I feel as if we've talked way too much about me
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  Kathryn L Hillposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  You said you were becoming a shaman. I think you are confident. Too bad about the disc. That keeps you humble.
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  No, you have not.
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  Kathryn, If Im to keep up my honesty then I have to admit I fell far from what I learned. I am just now getting back to my center. Never doubt the seductive lure of chaos to one who grew up in it.....basically I'm a dumb ass
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  stay off the pot. You are not a dumb ass.
  
  ha ha Now you are talking too much about yourself.
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  Indeed
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  Good Night D.E.
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  Its near 4 am here so i gotta say good night as well y'all. sleep well.
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  what was your experience.
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  With acupuncture? none at all, I'm afraid my financial situation doesn't really allow for experimentation.
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  no, with Ritalin
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  When your on it and don't need it, it is a nightmare of racing thoughts, irritability, and nervous energy. It feels like someone roped a hurricane and managed to lodge it in your psyche. constant mental movement even after exhaustion.
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DasEngelposted 9 years ago
Goodbye, Kathryn. I'm off to write a new hub. Will get a new thread one of these days.
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Kathryn L Hillposted 9 years ago
He met Babaji in India who gave him the task of removing the barriers of unity for mankind and helping to reveal the basic truth behind all religions. In his book he explains "...the highest aim of religion is Self-knowledge. But to attain this, knowledge of the external world is necessary."
(From The Holy Science by Swami Sri Yukteswar.)
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  Good fellow.
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DasEngelposted 9 years ago
I think one of my followers wrote a beautiful hub about 'Chaga and Righi' (herbal medicines). I'll dig it again to find some new enlightenment to my understanding of 'OptiMind'. ^_^
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Kathryn L Hillposted 9 years ago
Thanks DasEngel. We have found a peaceful end to my original dilemma,
I pray that moms and dads love their children enough to not give them drugs ...

and that they will find the will to raise their children in peace and in accordance to nature which Montessori reveals in her books …
The Secret of Childhood and
The Absorbent Mind: This one she wrote in India when she was in exile there during the days of Mussolini in Italy.
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  India is interesting. Yep, it has been a good discussion. Better than Discovery channel anyway!
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You would never ask him these things!
I hope he will answer.
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DasEngelposted 9 years ago
OK, here's a redefined spiritual algorithm: Everything is same. But we need to cleanse off out pretense, and such elements.
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  yes. Only what is provably true.
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  DasEngelposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  OK, I'm not playing games now: We have a lot of work to do.
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DasEngelposted 9 years ago
Maybe, just maybe: If we were really so good, we wouldn't be on this website in the first place. Something like that?
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  Kathryn L Hillposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  Yes . why am I here?
  Why am I responding .
  why am I typing anonymously?
  expressing thoughts
  
  Because I can!!!!
  It is creative and I like being creative. (some are more creative than others, of course ... you for instance.)
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  A blackhole dragging a comet from the sky? A mad genius?
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I think you are related to janesix.
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  That would be too girly for me. :-D
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DasEngelposted 9 years ago
What if I had godly powers? What I would have done with them? Let me think.
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  You do.
  
  BTW It is okay to be confident.
  Arrogance is often a misinterpretation.
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  DasEngelposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  You too.
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  we all do!
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  DasEngelposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  We are all mini Gods!
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Kathryn L Hillposted 9 years ago
"Hyperactivity" is not such a bad thing.
It is natural. The problem is kids who are not left-brained learners are labeled restless by teachers who must have students conform to their dictates and tyrannical teaching methods.

Actually, the truth is these children are right-brained thinkers/learners and do not conform to the public-school-left-brain format!!!!!

Right brain thinkers are very creative. They must comprehend the whole first and then the parts. Left-brained learning starts with the parts and builds to the whole.

I am a right brained learner. I must see the whole first.
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DasEngelposted 9 years ago
I'm chemically herbal. A chemical goodnight to ya'll Americans!
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Kathryn L Hillposted 9 years ago
Repeating: "Hyperactivity" is not such a bad thing.
It is natural. The problem is kids who are not left-brained learners are labeled restless by teachers who must have students conform to their dictates and tyrannical teaching methods.

Actually, the truth is these children are right-brained thinkers/learners and do not conform to the public-school-left-brain format!!!!!

Right brain thinkers are very creative. They must comprehend the whole first and then the parts. Left-brained learning starts with the parts and builds to the whole.

I am a right brained learner. I must see the whole first.
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Kathryn L Hillposted 9 years ago
Repeating:
"We have found a peaceful end to my original dilemma:"

To "... pray that moms and dads love their children enough to not give them drugs ...
and that they find the will to raise their children in peace and in accordance to nature which Montessori reveals in her books:

1. The Secret of Childhood
2. The Absorbent Mind
3. The Montessori Method

And if we must defund Obama Care to get Medicaid to stop this abominable practice ...
we should!
Not one toddler should be given psychotropic drugs. Not One!
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  DasEngelposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  This whole thing is an illusion. Not saying that it's not beneficial. But it's still illusion. An elaborate one.
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DasEngelposted 9 years ago
On a second thought: this is one of those venues where we may rediscover that we had indeed been bugged with illusions.
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  Kathryn L Hillposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  What is the illusion?
  
  Some Medicaid doctors and pediatricians are not really giving kids under three these dangerous natural chemical/mind altering drugs? The article is a hoax?
  One would hope so!
  Children this age really can't even be diagnosed as officially ADD / ADHD until around age six according to the teachers I have worked with.
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  DasEngelposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  It's pasta.
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DasEngelposted 9 years ago
Spirituality is about planning what we are going to do after death.
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DasEngelposted 9 years ago
Satan is something very real. It's not something like a fictitious fairy. It as real as anything fleshy: even one of a brown hare who seemed so wired with alertness, I imagined him springing right out of the frame
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DasEngelposted 9 years ago
As such; God must be just as real. There's hope.
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  Kathryn L Hillposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  God is a given.
  I do not doubt it.
  I only know we can't find Him, Our Creator.
  Cuz we don't want to.
  We are lazy.
  We are content,
  We take all His gifts for granted.
  We are content to suffer.
  We know not how to alleviate our suffering or the suffering of others.
  
  Therefore I beg to differ. I do not see much hope.
  
  I agree.
  A picture gives us a glimpse of what we could see, feel or experience, if only we could.
  And yes, pasta is yummier and more satisfying/comforting than brown rice.
  But, I don't know about nutritious. Brown rice contains magnesium and micro nutrients. Not to mention it is a ph balanced food ... less so than millet. Millet is also yummy and nutritious.
  
  An analogy can be made from all this:
  What feels good in the present is not often the best solution/choice for the future.
  Those who are future oriented are the most successful in life.
  
  If one raises his child drug free, one will produce a healthy, robust child.
  Drugs may make your life easier in dealing with your little bundle of energy now … but think about the future! You are creating a monster.
  And you will not be the one suffering mentally.
  HE WILL BE!
  
  I just can't get over that report.
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  DasEngelposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  **white light**
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  the light is following a specific and special blue print coming forth form the astral into the physical.
  The soul comes into the union of the egg and the sperm. and directs the development of the body.
  If the mother and father have sound physical DNA and the mother has a healthy diet, the soul manifests optimally.
  What good is white light if it cannot direct itself according to the perfect blueprint?
  Or it is not perceived and impossible to perceive, due to BRAIN DAMAGE!?
  I suppose you are trying to comfort me, D. E. but this issue has me stumped.
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  DasEngelposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  There is nothing.
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Kathryn L Hillposted 9 years ago
The first six years constitute the development, growth and formation of the psyche!

What mother would take Rtalin when she is pregnant?????
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DasEngelposted 9 years ago
Christ has been a hoax, a subtle one: it's not that he never existed, it's just that he wasn't the person that you knew him to be.
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DasEngelposted 9 years ago
Stay tuned. If I stay alive, I'll have something to tell. The world.
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DasEngelposted 9 years ago
God has submitted. It took a while though.
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  I thought God was in the kitchen cooking me some chips.
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  what kind of chips?
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DasEngelposted 9 years ago
Maya is about 'lack of details'.
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  sometimes the opposite.
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  DasEngelposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  Yes, both.
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DasEngelposted 9 years ago
I regret that I had joined this website.
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  Kathryn L Hillposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  Oh.
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DasEngelposted 9 years ago
On the good side, I have lost an arm.
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DasEngelposted 9 years ago
I have no idea how many hubs it takes to change the course of a river.
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  DasEngelposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  I'll do a Ph.D. on it. :-)
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  Kathryn L Hillposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  Angel is engel in German.
  I suspect you live in Germany.
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  DasEngelposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  If I make a comment on your hub, you can check the IP address yourself. :-)
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  Gunter Grass
  http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/14/world … -87.html?_
  
  " Mr. Grass was a playwright, essayist, short-story writer, poet, sculptor and printmaker as well as a novelist, but it was as a social critic that he gained the most notoriety, campaigning for disarmament and broad societal change.
  
  But ultimately, his uncompromising antimilitarism and his warnings that a unified Germany might once again threaten world peace led some of his countrymen to criticize him as a pedantic moralist who had lost touch with real life."
  
  http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/14/world … -87.html?_
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  Therefore, I will never know.
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  DasEngelposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  You are very good at teasing, haha :-)
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DasEngelposted 9 years ago
Let me post a sculpture here, by Gunter Grass.

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DasEngelposted 9 years ago
Talking of it, I now glimpse why newspapers are such vital organisms.
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DasEngelposted 9 years ago
Gunter Grass sculpture: I don't remember the original title, but it's clearly visible that it's a hand holding a fish.

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  DasEngelposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  Now I know what it really means.
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  Kathryn L Hillposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  what?
  The oppression of human beings over fish?
  or overcoming the viciousness of the meat eating Pirañha.
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piranha
  One would have to actually know or read up on his views.
  Perhaps you do not live in Germany.
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  DasEngelposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  In my real life, I'm a vegetarian. Been a vegetarian from when I was as little as 8 or 9.
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  Kathryn L Hillposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  Yes. it is not fair to the fish who have a strong instinct for survival and desire to to swim away from the human hand.
  I learned that from Chrissie Hynde, Also a very strict vegetarian. She is about 64.
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  DasEngelposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  I would love to put it away to an aquarium etc. :-)
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  God made Piranhas!
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  DasEngelposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  They didn't instruct me to make compromises with Pir Hannas. :-)
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  +1
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  DasEngelposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  Hanna Pir on Facebook. Wasn't expecting them. :-)
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DasEngelposted 9 years ago
Life is actually very simple. It was designed to be simple. But then it comes. What is that it, we don't know. Gunter Grass was trying to help us, or himself, to get an answer to that question.
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DasEngelposted 9 years ago
Specific websites are set up be specific people. But the technology they use to set up their website, was created by someone else. :-)
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  Some scientists made life out of dirt. But they couldn't make their own dirt. :-)
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DasEngelposted 9 years ago
Speaking all these, I do think and feel there is some energy.
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DasEngelposted 9 years ago
Spirituality has levels.
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I would be more impressed if you know any Piran Ha s, Budd Ha s, or Gand Hi s.
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  DasEngelposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  I'm one. :-)
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  U R DasEngleha
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  I'm a great man. Who are you?
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  Hillha.
  wondering, actually.
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  DasEngelposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  Theodore R Engleha in the 1940 Census
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  DasEngelposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  I'm not actually from your culture. But as far as I know, all the truly good and brilliant people of your culture are either Collins, or Watts, or Wells/Welles. There must be a few more. But these 3 I'm quite certain of.
  
  No idea if they belong to the Boston Brahmins group, or not.
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  Maybe Hill is brilliant too.
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  Rt A Redmond Pont Hill'h-A
  Oregon, USA
  
  Best I could do.
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  I like Paramount Pictures films.
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  DasEngelposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  "And this is good old Boston,
  The home of the bean and the cod,
  Where the Lowells talk only to Cabots,
  And the Cabots talk only to God."
  
  Boston Brahmins
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  Brahmins - PBS
  www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/murder/peopleeven … hmins.html
  PBS
  
  The term "Boston Brahmins" refers to a class of wealthy, educated, elite members of Boston society in the nineteenth century. Oliver Wendell Holmes coined the term in a novel in 1861, calling Boston's elite families "the Brahmin Caste of New England." The Boston Brahmins have long held the interest of casual and professional historians because of their unique place in nineteenth-century American culture. They were mostly the descendants of Puritans, having made their fortunes as American merchants, and they could not be described as egalitarian. Rather, they were the closest thing the United States has ever had to a true aristocracy. ...
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  Susoeff is good too.
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DasEngelposted 9 years ago
Gandhi ji loved cows. Buddha ji took the trouble of finding pain where it wasn't. and... Yogananda ji loved cats. :-)
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DasEngelposted 9 years ago
I'll be running for office in the next election.
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DasEngelposted 9 years ago
In India, there are strict rules for marriage. Brahmins may only marry from Brahmins. They instinctively realized the value of preservation.
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  I am stumped by the meaning of this phrase:
  
  "… narrow view of respectability."
  
  It is a spiritual fault to have one.
  
  what could this mean in real life?
  a limited awareness of what is respectable?
  or of how to be "respectable?"
  
  respectable
  1 reputable, of good repute, upright, honest, honorable, trustworthy, decent, good, well-bred, clean-living. ANTONYMS disreputable.
  
  Did hippies have a "narrow view" of this?
  Who has a wide view?
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  Of course, it is a bit evil to judge people by their surnames. But that doesn't mean there's no value in it. I keep refining myself. Besides, I didn't learn it from books. It took me years to reach these conclusions. And I don't take it seriously, either. Life is full of magic and miracles. :-)
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  Kathryn L Hillposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  We here say one cannot judge the book by the cover.
  Well, I wonder about that.
  Should we make (more of) an effort to portray on the outside what is in the inside?
  and does the outside end up influencing what is on the inside?
  I'm feeling a little guilty in all of this.
  I have always wanted to play up on the outside something more (less?) than respectable.
  
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  DasEngelposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  You may know what lies inside a book by seeing its cover. Actually, it can not be concealed. Our entire anatomy is a record of our personal history.
  
  I'm excluding the spirit, for the sake of brevity.
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  Kathryn L Hillposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  Well, that is quite true!
  I have always wanted to reveal the powerful side of my physical self.
  My mental self is more timid.
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  DasEngelposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  Honesty is what God is concerned about. But he's more concerned about love. That's what life is all about.
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  Kathryn L Hillposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  okay.
  thank you.
  That allows me to tone the whole thing down.
  kind of a relief.
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  DasEngelposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  In my next life, I would love to become a tiger.
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  Kathryn L Hillposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  Love like a tiger, then we are all brilliant.
  BFN
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