I watched a CBS 60 Minutes show segment on Operation Warp Speed that focused on the military's role. It was an impressive segment. You should check it out:
Inside the Operation Warp Speed effort to get Americans a COVID-19 vaccine
I came away with two thoughts; first, I was impressed by the detail level of the program. It represents my vision of military 'get it done' expertise, and they are using data technology that seems sure to make the program a success.
My second thought was more political. If CBS had run this program before Election Day it would have been an impressive Trump kudos. Since Covid-19 was a major focus of the Democrats' campaign, one can only wonder if that would have made a difference. Hmm . . .
It might have, though it's not clear that Trump supporters care much about COVID or getting COVID.
The Pfizer drug appears to be effective.
I think it's fair to say that Operation Warp Speed was one of the good things Trump did. However, it's also probably fair to say that it's hard to imagine such things not happening. Regardless of what the President did or didn't do, vaccines would be developed and quickly. Capitalism demands it.
That said, Trump prioritized a vaccine and the result appears to be positive. Of course, who wouldn't prioritize a vaccine?
"Of course, who wouldn't prioritize a vaccine?"
Someone that doesn't see a problem with the virus, that doesn't believe in science, that puts lives at the bottom of his priority list, that doesn't care how many people die as long as he is elected?
The man that has prioritized it, in other words, according to the liberals demonizing him. Doesn't make much sense, does it?
Well, clearly he didn't care too much about people dying. His rallies show that. Gathering tens of thousands of people in close quarters without masks is a recipe for sickness and death. Now he's talking about more rallies to protest the election.
Regardless of anything he did, companies would have developed a vaccine.
Probably important to remember that Congress allocated the money for the program.
That's what I said: the man that prioritized and pushed the vaccine doesn't care about the death toll. According to his detractors.
Yes, it's important, VERY important, to recognize that some Democrats, and some Republicans, gave him the money that he has made such excellent use of in combating the virus he doesn't believe in and doesn't care how many it kills. Very important.
We must also recognize and understand that companies would have developed a vaccine...sometime in the future. That the non-believer in science and all things medical prioritized the work and got it done much faster, because he doesn't care about lives lost.
(You do realize just what your line of reasoning sounds like, right?)
His rallies demonstrate the opposite. His ridiculing of masks and those who wear them demonstrate the opposite. Given these contradictions, I conclude that he does what is politically expedient and best for him.
How else do you explain his rallies? How do his past rallies the ones he's proposing right now demonstrate that he's concerned about the health of those who attend?
That said, he should get credit for supporting the fast development of a vaccine.
And yet, according to you he has prioritized a vaccine and put considerable effort into pushing it forward as quickly as possible. He has repeatedly touted how quick we will have one as well.
But he doesn't believe science, doesn't care about deaths and doesn't listen to doctors.
Again, you understand what it sounds like when you say things like that, right? All you can come up with is that it is "politically expedient" to speed along what he does not believe in, and truthfully that sounds like a man desperate to maintain the facade of TRUMP BAD MAN in spite of himself.
Unfortunately, he's lied about how fast that vaccine is coming, how fast it would be distributed (we were all getting it mid-October, last we heard). He's lied about turning the corner (things are getting much worse, in case you haven't noticed). And his staff continues to have parties and contract the virus, not to mention, rallies where his supporters are exposed.
All I'm saying is that there's clear, conflicting evidence.
My thoughts about the "Operation" being "Kudos" to Pres. Trump was secondary to my being impressed by the details of the military operation. I was in the Navy for a few years and am familiar with the logistics capabilities of the military, and I was very impressed with what I saw about Operation Warp Speed.
For instance; not only are they prepared to have vaccines delivered in the States within 24 hours of the order to execute, they also have logistical plans as peripheral as how to get dry ice from Puerto Rico to use for vaccine delivery to the Virgin Islands. I have no doubt they have equally thought-out plans for delivery to every suitable vaccination location in the states.
I was just impressed with the plan, and I think most reasonable folks would be too. Which was my nod to it being seen by voters as a plus for the president on election day.
A great example of how we push back in a very common-sense way. We provide solutions, problem-solving, making things better for all American's. Sort of what Trump has done for the past four years.
Please allow to throw in my 2 pennies from a viewpoint outside of the US.
I understand you all are very much into capitalist, free enterprise. If there is a demand for a product or service (vaccine, dry ice, transport, ..) then someone will immediately show up to do the job. No central planning, no oversight needed.
I am sure that if Virgin Islands need deep frozen vaccines then some entrepreneurial pilot will jump in and fly the stuff to where it is needed. What is the big deal? What do you need tactical planning with strategic military oversight for?
All you have to do is allow self organisation, in other words: remove red tape. You can say about the Trump administration what you want, but that is what they certainly were quite good at (removing red tape).
Other countries don´t make so much fuss about this. In Germany the company BioNtech (the vaccine developer who teamed up with Phizer for worldwide distribution) started to build up vaccine production facilities with their own money in the April, long before the US started the marketing gimmick "operation warp speed". This is why Phizer didn´t take any government money and only participates in "warp speed" for distribution purposes.
A lot of hot air about something which would happen anyways - the development and distribution of vaccines.
Of course your perspective is a possible scenario. However, the distribution network would need multiple thousands of "entrepreneurial pilot(s) [that] will jump in and fly the stuff to where it is needed." All of them needing dry ice containers, pick-up and drop-off distribution points, etc. etc. etc.
I don't see a massive immediate nationwide rollout to be as simple as you do. So, yes, I do see the logistical component of Operation Warp Speed as a very big and complicated deal.
But I did get a chuckle from mental images of drug-running-type pilots and planes flooding the skies in their efforts to beat the other guys to getting the first loads and then landing on highways close to their drop-off points, tossing a styrofoam container onto the loading dock, and rushing back to their planes for another load.
Thank you for posting this thread, perhaps it will encourage some to have a long look at Operation Warp Speed. The program itself was interactive to include the study of the virus, fine therapeutics, and a vaccine, and finally, get that vaccine out to the citizens with great efficient speed. Lot's of Federal cash was allocated for all of the above mentioned. Listening to Nancy Pelosi one would think Trump was doing nothing to fight the virus.
many say Trump would not listen to science. He not only listens to science he went to the very root of the science of viruses. A virus can only be controlled by a vaccine. In my view, this man did a superb job handling the virus. And he did it with warp speed.
One thing that sunk us, is the fact the Governors refused his input on how to handle the virus. Thank God we had him providing what the states needed. Know we can look forward to getting the same bunch that was screaming for help, and following the science, defy the need for getting a COVID vaccination.
What has Operation Warp Speed actually done so far?
If you are thinking of the Pfizer vaccine, then you should be aware that Pfizer declined all assistance from the US administration (because it wanted to retain full commercial rights). Neither Trump nor the US government had any input or influence in developing the Pfizer vaccine.
There will be efforts to fast-track US approvals for the vaccine now it's developed, but that has not even started yet.
Like other governments all over the world, the US has placed an order with Pfizer to purchase their vaccine when it becomes commercially available. That's all.
Appreciate your view. Myself, I am just pleased with the President's efforts to repurchase new vaccines to speed a vaccine to American citizens. It would be obvious any and all pharma companies would be very motivated to be the first to line their pockets with cash selling a vaccine. Just happy to hear of the several companies that are on the verge of providing a vaccine.
I did not set out to imply other countries were not as diligent in regards to purchasing a vaccine. Just offering a bit of "that a boy" to my president... My comment was opinion oriented.
Very sure other countries are doing their diligence to provide a vaccine to their populations.
You said, " The program itself was interactive to include the study of the virus, fine therapeutics, and a vaccine, and finally, get that vaccine out to the citizens with great efficient speed".
I'm pointing out that the first three things mentioned have produced no results yet (Pfizer's vaccine is not part of the program), so the only achievement so far is a plan, on paper, to "get that vaccine out to the citizens" at some point near the end of NEXT year.
To claim anything for the first three is inaccurate at this point.
I do realize the part Pfizer played Claims that the development of an efficient vaccine by Pfizer is an achievement for U.S.-funded Operation Warp Speed omit or downplay the fact that Pfizer’s involvement in the initiative is limited to vaccine production and delivery, not vaccine research and development. Therefore, the funding provided by the initiative would only come into play after the development of an efficient vaccine and its approval by the FDA.
In regards to the achievements of Operation Warp, I feel they have done a good job, and appear to be fulfilling their goals, in record time. Just my opinion. I have done tons of research on the subject.
My comment actually did not point out any specific Pharma company --- To quote -- "Thank you for posting this thread, perhaps it will encourage some to have a long look at Operation Warp Speed. The program itself was interactive to include the study of the virus, fine therapeutics, and a vaccine, and finally, get that vaccine out to the citizens with great efficient speed".
Dr. Moncef Slaoui chief adviser to Operation Warp Speed offered an explanation .of the Operation Warp Speeds goals---
"Through the whole-of-America approach, we have leveraged the best of the nation in the federal government, local, states, industry, and academia to expand the capacity and capability to achieve our mission. It has been powerful.
We have capitalized on the best contracting, logistics, and planning experts available to synchronize and integrate all phases of the operation, from the development of the vaccine, manufacturing of the vaccine, and finally distribution of the vaccine."
IT is my understanding that the US worked with multiple private pharmaceutical companies in regard to the development of a vaccine, as well as purchasing millions of doses of vaccines from multiple companies. I have listed the pertinent companies.
Novavax soars after U.S. government awards firm $1.6 billion for coronavirus vaccine development -- https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/07/us-gove … ccine.html
Moderna --The U.S. has already invested $955 million in Moderna’s vaccine development, bringing its total investment up to $2.48 billion, the company said.
Johnson & Johnson -- The U.S. earlier this year awarded J&J $456 million to develop its vaccine.
Sanofi and GlaxoSmithKline
Sanofi and GSK, which are co-developing a vaccine, announced July 31 that HHS would pay up to $2.1 billion to develop and deliver 100 million doses of their potential candidate.
The U.S. will have the option to order an additional 500 million doses, the companies said.
More than half of the $2.1 billion investment will be used for further development of the vaccine while the remaining funds will be used toward manufacturing the initial 100 million doses,
HHS announced July 7 that it reached a deal with the Maryland-based drugmaker Novavax worth $1.6 billion to help the company with trials and manufacturing.
HHS announced May 21 that it would pay AstraZeneca up to $1.2 billion for its experimental vaccine developed alongside researchers at the University of Oxford.
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/08/14/the-us- … stand.html
You may not be aware but it was announced yesterday that Pfizer will be handing their vaccine this next week to our FDA for emergency approval. It is predicted the vaccine will start to be distributed in Dec 2020. And all of the general public will have the availability of the vaccine in April 2021. This week should offer more information as the FDA decides if they will approve the vaccine to be given.
Moderna is also releasing its final studies, and hope to be offering their vaccine for approval.
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/11/12/coronav … t-for.html
I have added a link to the press conference where I obtained the updates on Operation Warp Speed. - https://www.c-span.org/video/?478093-1/ … e-lockdown
Update--- Great news the AstraZeneca COVID vaccine has been Okayed for uses in the UK... And will soon be presented to the FDA for use in the US. If all goes well, we will have another vaccine available. Enough to vaccinate an additional 300 million citizens as it is produced.
Some promising news... May 2020 ---U.S. secures 300 million doses of potential AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccine
"ENGALURU/LONDON (Reuters) - The United States has secured almost a third of the first 1 billion doses planned for AstraZeneca’s experimental COVID-19 vaccine by pledging up to $1.2 billion, as world powers scramble for medicines to get their economies back to work."
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-heal … SKBN22X0J9
https://hubpages.com/politics/forum/350 … warp-speed
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