Are vaccines safe? A rational view from a medical doctor . . .

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   sannyasinmanposted 12 years ago

   A doctor who has done her own research.
   Please watch this, then I invite your comments . .
   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAJb01ZiJNk

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   Eric Newlandposted 12 years ago

   Is polio safe? Is smallpox safe? Is diphtheria safe? Is measles safe? Is pertussis safe? Is hepatitis safe? Is influenza safe? Is neonatal tetanus safe?

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   knolyourselfposted 12 years ago

   Maybe the problem is giving to many of them at once.

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   clairewaitposted 12 years ago

   I couldn't be more frustrated with the "anti-vaxing" trend that is sweeping across America's attachment parents.  "Is polio safe?"  (Thank you.)  "Is small pox safe?"  (Thank you.)  Vaccinations, when used correctly (and by the entire population) have the ability to wipe out certain diseases.  To choose NOT to vaccinate your child, for whatever reasons, is to put someone's infant at risk one day, or to cause a measles outbreak. 
   
   Delayed vaccinations?  Fine.  Spread the shots out if you think your child is going to remember the 6 month old trauma.  But to assume your child is safe because everyone else is vaccinating is pawning off responsibility on others, who didn't ask to be held responsible for you.

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      jennzieposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      I agree- since I was a small kid I've never had any reactions to vaccines, aside from some pain in my arm that lasted for one or two days. And I've never contracted chicken pox, measles, or any of those types of diseases.
      
      While serious reactions to certain vaccinates have been reported, it is very rare. I feel that for most children, receiving the proper vaccinations is vital.

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      againsttheoddsposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Agreed, I don't know about simple things like the flu vaccine, but I'm sure that if you got bit by a dog without shots that you would wish you had a rabies vaccine.  Same thing  goes for pets, to not have your pet vaccinated is exposing everyone and you should be held highly responsible should anything occur.

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      Marisa Wrightposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      +1

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   Shanna11posted 12 years ago

   If there even IS such a link between autism and vaccines (not proven, there isn't) would you rather have your child be dead or have autism? Or are you suggesting that it IS better for your children to be dead than to have autism? Because I can guarantee that a resurgence in childhood diseases that vaccines eradicated WILL increase childhood mortality.
   
   Either your child risks autism, or your child risks death. OR if they happen to be one of the lucky ones to survive childhood disease, you can be sure you'll have to explain to them regularly while little Sarah down the street won't ever be able to play with your child again, or while two of her classmates suddenly disappeared from school.
   
   The risk of death from one of those diseases is far higher than any imagined risk from autism or anything else.

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      sannyasinmanposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Excuse me . .  are you saying that if your child becomes autistic after receiving vaccinations, this is Ok with you?
      
      Ok, because at least he/she is not dead?

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         Marisa Wrightposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Obviously if a parent gets her child vaccinated and the child then becomes autistic, it would be heart-rending - but that doesn't mean one caused the other. 
         
         The original study that claimed a link (and caused all the panic) was in 1998.  The anti-vaccine crusaders determinedly ignore the fact that the study was discredited.  Since then, multiple large-scale studies have been conducted, involving hundreds of thousands of children, and none of them has been able to establish a causal relationship.
         
         When a child develops autism, it's natural that the parents want to make sense of it.  Finding something to blame is easier than accepting it's an innate fault in their child - it gives them an outlet for their anger and grief.  That's where all this hysteria comes from.

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            Shanna11posted 12 years agoin reply to this

            You said it very well.

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         Shanna11posted 12 years agoin reply to this

         It would be okay with me, because I would remember that there are NO certifiable scientific studies that prove that vaccines directly cause autism, and that at least I don't have to bury a child (no parent should ever have to do that) because he/she died of a preventable communicable disease.

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            sannyasinmanposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            Incredible . . .
            
            You take a PERFECTLY HEALTHY CHILD, give him a vaccination, after which he becomes severely ill, or even autistic, and that is OK with you. because, well you see, had he not been vaccinated, maybe he would have contracted the disease, and then maybe he would have died... we are talking about a previously healthy child being damaged forever by vaccines . . .
            
            Empirical evidence of the dangers of vaccines, and testimonies from parents, see here . . 
            http://sanevax.org/
            http://vactruth.com
            http://www.nvic.org/
            http://www.informedchoice.info/polio.html
            
            In a compulsory inoculation program, it is the RESPONSIBILITY of the developers, promoters and enforcers to prove safety and efficacy. It should not be incumbent upon the general public to have to prove that vaccines are dangerous. Don't you see this?

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               Shanna11posted 12 years agoin reply to this

               I have so much to say to you, but I can't do it without insulting your intelligence. Since I can't do it politely and you'll never see reason, I'm going to bow out.

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      sannyasinmanposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      I have one more thing to show you . .
      Now there is official PROOF.
      
      This not BigPharma funded research and opinion, it is a LEGAL COURT RULING. You know very well that to get a judgment in a court of law you need PROOF.
      
      Italian court rules that MMR vaccine caused Autism.
      
      http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article … ebate.html
      
      You see now don't you, that there is proof that MMR vaccine can cause autism?

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   eternals3ptemberposted 12 years ago

   I love how she squints when she can't read the teleprompter. A lot she said was basic science, that makes sense, like the tetanus and the difference between immunity and the presence of antibodies. But then after five minutes it went into this weird half assumptions and jumps in logic, and I just wanted to laugh.
   
   *Deep serious voice* "When that baby is just three days old, just 72 hours old, you put him in a giant steel beast full of plastics with that "dangling fresh car scented thing" and rush him down the highway to your house, to his room with cadmium painted toys, phalate-ridden bottles, and bromine laced clothes, then months later bring him to get a shot that adversely affects 1 in 3,000,000 and its the shot explains why 1 in 160 children are autistic?
   We live in a nitrogen oxide, heavy metal, estrogen-mimicking compound world that we know, know, knowwwww, causes weird crap, and its the vaccines?
   I've been vaccinated. Most other people have. Smallpox, gone. And then she was like "Over 60 percent of the children with mumps had the vaccine!" And I was like, "Soooo... the other 30% were the little petri dishes that mutated!"
   
   SARS? Really? Dude, China barely contained that crap. It killed a tenth of the people who got it because their lungs filled with jelly! I'm glad it didn't make it off the island.
   When has the flu killed that many people? Also, the flu mutates like crazy and has 100 different strains, which is why we can't contain it. Other viruses, not so much, all the more reason to vaccinate, and maintain herd immunity.
   
   Also "vaccine trials are inconclusive" except when they support her!
   
   Oh God, 14:22 she goes "Help us, we're martyrs!" Of course, not ever drug is good. God, it's like a textbook case on errors in logic.
   
   Defeat the 500 billion dollar industry and the biased media with "MAGICAL ORGANIC SPRING WATER VITAMINS!" Jesus, this is great stuff... Autism is social retardation, so what IF VACCINES GIVE YOU ASPERGER'S?

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