I wonder how many others publish one of their hubs because they think it is tweaked and good to go ... only to find ... upon a reread that they need to clarify and describe a situation better. I do this all the time and it makes me crazy! By the time I have it down pat most everyone has already read it. What's a girl to do?
I try to let it sit (set?) all night and go over it again the next day before I hit publish, but I know sometimes we get excited and forget to do the final edit! I've done that before too.
You can always wait ten minutes between finishing and publishing a hub, reread it and see if you are satisfied.
I have had the same thing happen to me. You can poofread (proofread) all you want as soon as you hit that publish button you will find a missteak (misstake) error!
oops.
hehehe I do that at times. I don't even realize it when I reread or another hubber contacts me and lets me know. Ah what would i do without my fellow hubbers? lol
Crazdwriter, It's not necessarily that I made a mistake (though I do that too). It's that I feel I have failed to do a good job at communicating or painting a picture of an event so the reader really see's it. I just did that in my last hub ... UGH!
aaa Mekenzie, don't think of it as failing, think of it as a learning experience in bettering your way of conveying what you want to say to your reader.
Save it and reread it before you publish it. I do this all the time. That way it is not up for everyone to read, just yourself, although I have had a couple of people sneak through somehow and read it before it has been published, a glich i guess, but that is what I do. Ihave left hubs saved but unpublished for overnight, you might get flagged, but it still gives you a chance to look it over.
Mekenzie, leaving your hubs unpublished won't get you flagged, if you throw in some text. I generally have at least 10 unpublished hubs on the go and I have never been flagged.
The trick I use to avoid flagging is to paste in a bunch of text - I copy the instructions at the top of the page (on how to build your hub) and paste them into the first text capsule about 6 times. That throws in enough words to keep the hub from being flagged as substandard. Then I just edit them out when I come back to work on the hub.
This gives me the opportunity to come back and look at work before I publish it, and to revise it as necessary. I will often make several revisions before publishing. It's all part of the writing process.
Cheers!
Red
RedElf, your advice is very, very helpful. It also helps me to know where to put all the ideas that pop into my mind for hubs... I can start them ... put the text you describe... then get back to it when I can.. I like that and all I have to do is work on my impulsiveness to get it out there... lol Very helpful really.... Thanks!
It's impossible to get flagged for an unpublished Hub, even if it's empty. The "this Hub is in danger of being flagged" appears to warn you not to publish it like that, that's all.
Look at my score - I have 5 empty, unpublished Hubs (I started them just to remind me of the idea).
I often publish and then go back and tweak. Of course, ideally you should get it right first time, but most of us don't! The thing to remember is, fellow Hubbers are only a tiny portion of the audience your Hub will get. Readers from search engines won't find your Hub for several days or even weeks, and by that time you'll have made your changes.
I'm glad you said that!
I've been having terrible problems with my computer blue screening out on me, usually in the middle of writing a hub, so I've quite often seen the sign saying 'this hub is in danger of being flagged' or words to that effect.
I had the idea that it was only warning me not to attempt to publish it as it was - as if! - but thanks for confirming what I thought.
Marissa, thanks for this information. I didn't know that a hub doesn't get picked up by search engines for several days... That helps to know... I guess since it is usually the hubbers that respond my focus tends to see how the hubbers view my writing and that is when I feel bad that they missed the updated version.
gosh I didn't realize hubbing was that complicated.. shouldn't you write a tutorial hub?
I guess it's as complicated as we make it to be. The words usually flow out of me and I have an instant story. But then as I read and reread I see ways I could have described a situation or a thought better. I also can find skipped words or errors by editing. The writing part is the easiest... as I edit, and re-edit my words get clearer and clearer. My goal is be able to paint a picture in the readers mind so they can see exactly what I describe. Blessings!
I try and write the article first in Word.
Then I do my research and look for photos, videos, products, but not in any good order yet,just higgedly-piggedly! It's those that I actually put into the capsules and leave unpublished. I have never seen a red flag?
Then I go back after a few days perhaps and copy/paste into text capsules.
To be honest it takes ages!
marie ... I know it takes a long time to get it right it seems. It's the editing and rereading and polishing it up that takes the time. I think I'm so anxious to get it published that I jump too quickly ... I should let it set there a couple of days while I reread and edit edit edit. Thanks
Once we are "inspired" to write a hub in the middle of the night or in the wee hours of the morning we can't help but run to our computers and begin typing down all of those wonderful thoughts to change the world that came to mind. That's when the adrenaline kicks in and the message is there, but the bad spelling and sometimes bad grammar gets published as well. At those moments we need to step back, breathe, relax and reread what in the dickens we just wrote. Hahaha. Re-write it, tweek it, and then, when we feel it's right, publish that remarkable hub, that will inspire others and lift their souls to a whole new world. Good going. By the way, the blue screening happens to me mostly when I leave a great comment and then the whole thing gets erased when I spell check in my yahoo box on top. That's a trick for spell checking comments, but be careful not to erase by mistake. Otherwise, you've got to start all over or forget it. Hahahahaha. I just found three mistakes in previewing this message. Ya'll now what I mean.
Hi Mekenzie:
Everyone here has their own working methods. We all publish and edit too, I think. As noted by other folks here, there's no problem with it. In the long run your hub can be refined as much or as little as you decide is necessary.
Part of my own method includes writing for a certain length. I never feel I've exhausted the subject of the hub. There's always more that could be written. But I try to be concise..hold the text to what best fits the title and captions. I've never felt that longer hubs are better hubs anyway. I just write another hub. The next group of ideas will continue telling the "story"...especially when writing HOW-TO or TRAVEL or I guess, any type of hub.
Although my methods vary; one technique I use most often is to lay down my photos and captions first. This gives me a rough outline of where I want to go in the hub. It also helps to establish the hub's length.
Length is important because (gasp) most adults skimm for information. Rather than reading every word, like we might enjoy a novel, most adults use a hit or miss method. They glance off this lead sentence and careen down the page like slalom runners during Olympic trials. Their habits can't be changed. Unless, of course, we capture their finnicky tastes early in the hub.
So I write for length; the attention span of the Reader. Hubbers variously recommend 700 words minimum, or a thousand or 1250 words maximum. Some hubs run past 2500!
It's all about your own choices. I have anywhere from 5 to 10 hubs waiting to be worked on. Some need graphics or photos. Others have photos and captions but the text had the wrong voice (bad days = bad voice, lol.) Sometimes it's just a headline that gets saved....they need everything, lol.
Plus I have folders in my computer for hubs in progress. Inside there's usually a photo folder and a text folder. There's a folder for hub ideas..subjects to write about. Old stuff. I hardly ever use it. There are folders for links, photo sources, Hub advice...and so on. All offline. All of us just create a resource package that works for us individually.
You're a very good writer. You'll do well.
HubCrafter
Love your avatar by the way. Reminds me of Mary Cassatt's work.
HubCrafter, You've got my wheels turning with ideas. Thanks for the adivce and your encouraging words as well.
I'm glad you like my avatar. It reveals my love for beauty, feminiity and the nostagia of a different era.
It does resemble Mary Cassatt's work indeed.
Appreciate your comments - Blessings!
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