Please don't waste your time with Wizzley!

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   Ultimate Hubberposted 13 years ago

   I've been promoting Wizzley lately and have referred some authors to their website, now I feel bad about it.
   
   The website is a crap being run by amateurs. I didn't like the recent attitude of the HP staff so thought I can use Wizzley instead but Wizzley has been a horrible experience. They have been unpublishing and deleting my articles. Yes, they did delete an original article written by me that didn't even have a single external link. The reason was never mentioned.
   
   Now I think I will spend most of my time on my websites and some of it on HP.

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      mistyhorizon2003posted 13 years agoin reply to this

      That is interesting UH, as I have 13 articles on there and none have been unpublished at all. The site is run by experienced people who have plenty of background in running such sites. Did you email them to ask why they had unpublished your articles?
      
      PS. Did you make sure you articles were de-indexed by Google before you moved them to Wizzley? This could be your problem. Google does have a URL removal tool that will remove your articles within 24 hours (in my experience), so they will not show as duplicate on a new site.

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         Ultimate Hubberposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         I never moved one there. I wrote it from scratch. Would you believe that they actually deleted an article which I found in the trash folder. Interestingly, they didn't mention why they deleted it so I am never going to ask them.
         
         And one can only wish that experience will make someone wise also.

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            Ultimate Hubberposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            And experience have actually taught them nothing as the username "wizzley" is being used by a member. They should've reserved it for themselves.

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               TheHubKingposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               I was actually the one who registered the "wizzley" username. Chefkeem (this is the man's username), one of the founders of the site however messaged me weeks later asking me if I could turn over the username to them. They asked nicely so I obliged. I have a different username now.
               
               Well, as to the site, I haven't encountered any problems so far. But then again I only have three articles there. However I have to say I'm pretty satisfied with everything. The traffic is good. The sense of community is also good. Interaction among writers is pretty active.
               
               With that said, I'm going to continue using the site and see what it leads me. I don't think it's a waste of time at all.
               
               Articles being deleted is inherent with content-publishing sites. Squidoo does it. Wizzley does it. Even HubPages too. Let us not forget that these sites do these not to piss off their writers but to ensure quality content are published on the site. Writers are after all their lifeblood. Wizzley would be nothing without writers like us.
               
               I guess the mistake of Wizzley with regards to deleting published articles is that they don't inform you why they did it.

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            IzzyMposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            This does not sound at all professional. I joined a while back but haven't written an article yet. Might not bother now.

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      Richieb799posted 13 years agoin reply to this

      They unpublished one of my hubs and called my website an adult liaison site and wouldn't allow my link.
      My site is a forum where people can talk about a city in Thailand which happens to have beautiful women.

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         Ultimate Hubberposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         So they are certainly a bunch of kids running the website.

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            Richieb799posted 13 years agoin reply to this

            Put it this way, I have a reputable restaurants site that included my banner, Thailand tattoo included my banner, a rock club in Pattaya included my banner and 2 travel guides websites included my banner but Wizzley won't except my link?

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            mistyhorizon2003posted 13 years agoin reply to this

            Their pics look like they are well over 50 years old though, and Lakeerieartists (Paula) knows them and says they have stacks of experience. I will try to get her to pop in and post here with her feedback and thoughts on your experiences.

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               Ultimate Hubberposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               MH, I somehow knew that you would say this. I had already typed in my last post that "their brain-age is inversely proportional to their age" but thought that I must wait.
               
               I've seen Lakeerieartists there, she seems to be quite famous there, more than she is at HP.

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                  mistyhorizon2003posted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  LOL, well I will defer judgement for now, but as soon as I have a different experience I promise I shall post it on HP in the interest of balance. I hope Paula will drop by and give her take on this too, as she seems to know them from other well known sites they have worked on in the past (I think Squidoo may have been one of them, but would prefer her to confirm this).

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                  Randy Godwinposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  Certainly not in the "Elite" class though, huh? 

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      deblippposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      This is so frustrating to hear. I am following this forum and hope to learn more.

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   mistyhorizon2003posted 13 years ago

   All sounds really bizarre to me. I would have to find out more by asking them 'why?' if it were me, but so far they have not caused me any problems, and answered any minor questions I emailed to them within a few hours.
   
   Interesting feedback though.

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   thisisoliposted 13 years ago

   Wizzley seems okay, although it is worrying.
   
   Can I just ask, are they unpublishing your work, or are they just deleting it completely?

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      Ultimate Hubberposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Unpublished one but completely deleted another one without even mentioning a reason. However, I found that deleted one from the trash folder.
      
      Another hubber posted a comment on my Wizzley hub that Wizzley deleted his account telling him to write somewhere else. He doesn't seem like a bad writer.

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         sunforgedposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         The one that said:
         
         "My Wizzler account got deleted too. It simply tell me that i have grammer and sentence problem and told me to go elsewhere to write."
         
         Dont see any possible issues?
         
         
         Love the confucius hub by the way!
         
         "you can say anything in the forum, unless its against the rules, read the rules"
         
         "The private messaging is great, it has an inbox and an outbox"
         
         ".. and people haven't heard about it much yet. So, you can referrer a lot of people with ease."
         
         Would quote or paraphrase some other lines I really liked but then I would risk copying the complete hub..
         
         Its a must read!

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            Ultimate Hubberposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            Good to see that this thread has been honored by the post of official ranter of the hubpages. Trust me I enjoy those threads where you complain about educational background of the moderators.

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   Christeneposted 13 years ago

   Wizzley is not a waste of time.
   
   I had a single page unpublished twice but it's up now. I was told why they unpublished it both times, and they responded within minutes each time.
   
   They are very strict, but that's a good thing.
   
   They are not kids, and they do have experience.

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      Ultimate Hubberposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Congratulations!!

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         Christeneposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         I find it hard to believe you weren't told why your pages were unpublished. But if it is true, all you had to do was ask for an explanation.

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   frogdroppingposted 13 years ago

   Perhaps what they view as quality and your own perspective are miles apart. And I noticed you wrote a hub that doesn't match your feelings here.
   
   Why is that?

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      Ultimate Hubberposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      FD, did you read the first paragraph of my hub?(no you didn't):
      
      "Wizzley is being run by a bunch of kids. I am going to edit this hub and write the truth about the website. If you had any bas experience with them please tell me so that I can mention it here."
      
      Did you read the first sentence of this thread?(no you didn't):
      
      "I've been promoting Wizzley lately and have referred some authors to their website, now I feel bad about it."

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   frogdroppingposted 13 years ago

   Your hub doesn't portray your feelings. The first paragraph is irrelevant. It contradicts everything below it.
   
   "So, to avail all these benefits, join Wizzley now!"
   
   And to answer your question - yes I did. Instead of assuming what I have or haven't done, why not edit the hub and bring it into line with the quality of this site and the 'e' on your avatar.

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      Ultimate Hubberposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      The first paragraph was the edited part. The rest needs to be edited but for that I am doing some research.
      Things would have made sense to you in case you have read the opening sentence of this thread. If you have read that and still can't understand the whole scenario then I don't think you can ever get it so I won't be wasting my time on it anymore.

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         frogdroppingposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Here: The Passing
         
         My daughter wrote that. She was 14 at the time. I'd say that it's a better match re the looked-for quality on-site.
         
         I repeat - she was 14 years old.
         
         I don't need to re-read your hub. You do. It doesn't correlate with your perception of the message you're attempting to convey.
         
         Like I said you're a member of the Elite. You should be an ambassador for the site in all ways. And for the record I won't be one once my email is received.
         
         All I did was ask you a simple question, which relates to the very mixed message between your OP and your hub. They simply don't match.

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            Mark Ewbieposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            Lovely writing from your daughter.  Very lovely.
            
            As for the other stuff.  Clearly Wizzley quality controls must be, er, somewhat higher than HP.

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            Ultimate Hubberposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            I already said in the opening post of this thread that I WAS promoting wizzley. So why are you complaining?

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   skyfireposted 13 years ago

   Really ? if the site were to be on a single niche with better editorial control then in that case strictness is a good thing. (e.g. demand media properties,about.com) But let's face it, wizzley is just another content farm. When G discovers them as content mashup and respectfully places them in the lines of squidoo, hubpages and other open publishing platforms then all the strictness, weird rules and blabber goes in the trash.
   
   Content farms are worth only to point links to your OWN sites. Too much emo involvement into such projects only lead to disagreement between members,which is pointless in this dynamic world of content marketing.

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   Richieb799posted 13 years ago

   Yeah I wrote an entire Wizzley page about sightseeing in Thailand, they only unpublished it and said the title was misleading and I couldn't include my link.
   I feel they were wrong about my link but I fixed my title and its been republished which is OK I guess but I won't be switching from Hubpages, I'll be doing most of my stuff here

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   frogdroppingposted 13 years ago

   That's the thing - I'm not. I asked a question.
   
   Which bit of:
   
   ... did you misunderstand? 
   
   You said you 'was'. The hub 'is'.

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      Ultimate Hubberposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Even the hub wasn't... All I could do was change the first paragraph of the hub in a hurry, which conveyed the message. Also, erasing rest of the text wouldn't have allowed me to publish the hub.

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         frogdroppingposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Ok UH you missed my point but no matter. Apples and oranges. Are you confused? I certainly am *nods*
         
         Well anyway I will assume you're now editing it to fit *whatever* as it's vanished.
         
         As an aside (because I'm still confused so think I should just say something else instead) I really really liked HP before Google gripped it by the throat and throttled it.

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    Andrew0208posted 13 years ago

    You better Stick to HubPages and to your own websites. That's my candid advice and from my experience also...

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       PaulGoodman67posted 13 years agoin reply to this

       Just own websites.  See how the subdomain experiment works out before spending a lot of time on HP is my advice.

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    Randy Godwinposted 13 years ago

    Being an Elite on HP does not mean it carries over to other sites.  Nor does it mean one's writing is anything special.  Another reason the title is so embarrassing to some here. Perhaps adding a dash to the title, making it E-Lite, would be a little closer to the truth.

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       Andrew0208posted 13 years agoin reply to this

       

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          PaulGoodman67posted 13 years agoin reply to this

          I must admit that it is beyond my comprehension why someone would write a review of a website, then go to the forums and announce that their review is total crap.  Maybe that's why I have not made it into the ranks of the e-lite?  ;-)

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    frogdroppingposted 13 years ago

    I'm going to go and ask them why.

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    Uninvited Writerposted 13 years ago

    From what I see Wizzley is trying to avoid all the crap that turns up on Hubpages. Your first 10 articles are checked and published or not, this is to keep out the spammers and the trash. And hey...it is their site, they do not have to publish anything they do not want to.
    
    Sites are always great until you are the one who is denied something.
    
    I would hope they would tell you though, maybe an email got stuck in your spam folder?
    
    I've only written 2 articles there and have had no issues at all.

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       IzzyMposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       I read their TOS and it clearly states that they reserve the right to remove any content at any time without consulting the author.
       
       "Wizzley at our sole discretion may remove any and all your materials."
       
       http://wizzley.com/service/terms/

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    Mark Ewbieposted 13 years ago

    I was a bit put out to have my latest effort turned down.  Is it OK if I repeat it here in full?  It's not published anywhere else.
    
    I Like Cats
    ===========
    I like cats because they are small and hairy.  Except those weird ones that don't have hair. I don't like those.  If I had a cat I would call it Fluffy and feed it every day.  Cats eat food which is something else I like about them.  I like food.  If I am honest I like food a bit more than I like cats.
    But I do like cats - lol, lmao and thank you for reading.

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       Randy Godwinposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       You now qualify for an E-Lite title! 

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          Mark Ewbieposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          Ah great.  And now I can say what a great expression that is, without getting involved in an argument.

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             Randy Godwinposted 13 years agoin reply to this

             Of course!  Your powers are now unlimited! Unless, of course, you lose the title for some reason or another.  We refer to this action as being "DE-LITED." 

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                Mark Ewbieposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                Damn it, I'm involved in a pun war. My mother told me this would happen if I ventured onto forums.
                
                Nope.  Still can't think of one.

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                   Randy Godwinposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                   No pun taken!

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       IzzyMposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       LOL, that is better than some of the published hubs I have read while hopping this morning!

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          Mark Ewbieposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          Thanks Izzy.  Can't wait for the next HP comp to come around. I'm going to see if I can dent Simone's incredible enthusiasm.

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       WriteAngledposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       This is a hub to answer a hub I read about cats. I like cats too and I like food too. However, I can't eat as much food as I want because I need to spend all my money to buy food for the cats. Maybe this hub will make me lots of money for food for the cats and food for me. On the other hand, it might just be simpler to eat the cats. But three of them are very hairy, so if I eat them I will get hairballs just like they do.

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          Mark Ewbieposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          Wow!  That is fantastic!  Makes mine look a bit dull.
          
          Am I allowed a link to something that isn't HP?
          
          Let's see.
          
          http://sites.google.com/site/onlysmalla … -best-pets

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    skyfireposted 13 years ago

    "I like kitteh because kittehs are so cute. My kitteh's name is bela. She is 2 year old cute kitteh. She likes grilled fish sizzler. I like fish sizzler too. It tastes much better than chicken sizzler. Grilled Chicken is much better than turkey sizzler. Turkey is hard to catch so i try to catch fish in my aquarium. Bela also try to catch fish in the aquarium box. But she is afraid of getting wet. Aquarium has five fish in it. Bela enjoys watching fish swim in the aquarium. I love my kitteh. "

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       Mark Ewbieposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       Looks like we have a competition going on here...

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          WriteAngledposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          We can win Hubnuggets for our kitties!

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             Mark Ewbieposted 13 years agoin reply to this

             That would be great, except I don't have a cat.  Can't stand them.  Poetic licence.

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    IzzyMposted 13 years ago

    Pity there are no adverts in this thread - I'd love to see them changing!

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    lakeerieartistsposted 13 years ago

    I was asked to take a look at this thread, and so here are my two cents.
    
    Wizzley is not Hubpages.  Therefore what works on Hubpages may or may not work there.  Wizzley's staff is made up currently of a team of 5 people, who have very strict definitions of what they want on their site which they own.
    
    Their site was established post Panda, so they are trying to avoid some of the problems that hit other content sites during Panda.
    
    The site is ultra strict on writing quality, proper English, and topics allowed.  If your work doesn't meet their standards they will not allow it.
    
    After all the complaints about the crap that has been allowed to exist both here on Hubpages and on other sites, I can't believe that you are complaining that they have standards. However, there are other sites on the net that do not allow just anyone to write there.  I have been rejected from other sites in the past, and did not take it personally. Maybe you think your topics are okay, but they don't.
    
    Whether or not you wish to continue to write on a site that is owned by others is your choice. 
    
    I will say that I am not an owner, but know three of them.  They are not children but full fledged adults with a real idea of what they want the site to be. 
    
    If you are not satisfied with their judgements, then email them and they will be happy to explain why your article got rejected.  I had one that got rejected by the system due to too much duplication from other sites, even though I did not copy anything.  I fixed it and it went through.
    
    Personally, I like the site, and my articles are starting to generate a bit of income.  Do I think it is a substitute for Hubpages? No. 
    
    I am a strong believer of spreading out my amount of income streams.  Wizzley is now part of my mix.

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       TheHubKingposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       Very well said.

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    Wesman Todd Shawposted 13 years ago

    Never heard of that site.  That's not surprising, I'm always the last to know.  I suppose I'll take your advice, and not look into it.  I've too much on my webplate as it is.  I'm still all about Hubpages, and I sometimes publish on Info Barrel as well.  Hell, sometimes I publish on blogger.

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    lakeerieartistsposted 13 years ago

    Well, if you want another take, here is mine
    http://hubpages.com/hub/A-New-Writing-Platform-Wizzley

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       Richieb799posted 13 years agoin reply to this

       I don't think Hubpages allows crap to be posted and they do have a large backlog of moderating to do here since Hubpages is considerably larger.
       I just don't think they are extreme about it like a lot of webmasters who are panicking post panda

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          Randy Godwinposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          Well, I'm gonna have to go ahead and disagree with you on this one, Richie!  They do allow crap to be posted on HP, but then they want us to find it if we can.  It seems bass ackwards to me, but what do I know! 

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    Richieb799posted 13 years ago

    Well even if they do, its their site the same as lakeerieartists said about Wizzley, its Hubpages site and I am happy to go by the way they run it lol they are good to us!

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       Randy Godwinposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       Yes, it is their site.  And we are good to them too! 

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    Richieb799posted 13 years ago

    I've decided to close my Wizzley account, although they spotted one or two spelling mistakes in my article, they seem a little to pretentious for my liking and I could find more enjoyable locations to write. They seem to frown to much upon backlinking even when you've written a good article to back it up lol
    Never had this trouble at numerous other platforms.

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    Richieb799posted 13 years ago

    Thats good anyway, I asked them to delete my account and they were quick is ultimate hubber still there?

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    spiritualityposted 13 years ago

    I also wrote my own take on Wizzley, which is very positive:
    
    <snipped - no promotional links in the forums>
    
    Given the way Google ranks things these days I think it makes a LOT of sense for Wizzley to be strict about what they allow on their platform. In fact, one of the reasons I'm not writing more on hubpages is that is NOT strict enough, IMO.
    
    For the record: they're a very responsive team, so you should have no trouble learning why your wizzle was unplublished.

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    Stacie Lposted 13 years ago

    well they are a lot different than Hubpages and haven't removed any of my 11 articles yet.
    The forum is a bit sedate,so I'll stay on this one...

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    steve8millerposted 9 years ago

    Yes, Wizzley is not a good site. I have been slammed they have not accepted one of my articles. If you have any alternative news the site will block your post. Hubpages is fair Wizzley is not period.

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    LindaSmith1posted 9 years ago

    Been there 3 years and no problems.  They don't delete articles, they will unpublish them, which you can find easily by clicking on my pages and going to the drop down box.

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