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Aurora's Horror and Someone's less than thoughtful rationale.

  1. jmicchael1a profile image59
    jmicchael1aposted 5 years ago

    Louie Gohmart claimed that the horror of Aurora, Colorado was a product of people turning away from Judeo-Christian beliefs. Attacking these beliefs were his words.

    Then he rambles on wondering why there was no one in a conceal carry state available to pull their weapon and stop the assailant. Citing in his remarks that in Tyler, Texas a family dispute turned ugly and that a shooter confronted, abandoned his assault because a brave soul pulled his gun and fired upon the perpetrator. The result was the brave soul was killed but died a hero.

    Let's consider this, one deranged gunman already wrecking havoc by gunfire and percussion to be opposed by another armed individual firing at the assailant in the middle of this chaos. WOW. What could go wrong with that?

    So my question is......
    What would Jesus' weapon of choice be in this scenario?

    1. Mighty Mom profile image84
      Mighty Momposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      Can you put a link to Louie Gohmart's comments (url to article or video) please?

      I can't even comment on his comment because I don't know if he meant the victims were somehow to blame for turning away from Judeo-Christian beliefs or the gunman only or society for fostering the gunman (?)

      Jesus would bring his trusty 38 special: A MIRACLE

      1. jmicchael1a profile image59
        jmicchael1aposted 5 years agoin reply to this

        Here you go. My apologizes. I should have thought to do that.  I do not think he was being specific.  I believe his thoughts were a condemnation of the moral character of this nation. I don't agree with that. But that is for later. 
        Here is the URL
        http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/2 … r=Politics

      2. ptosis profile image73
        ptosisposted 5 years agoin reply to this

        Jesus is back - and he is pissed!

        I am deeply saddened by the whole thing in Aurora, and need time to  take it all in. I have certain theories. Such as What would happen if Armageddon happened and the infrastructure of society was now longer in place. It would be worse that a zombie apocalypse  where the bad guys were slow & stupid. With everybody off their medications all at once, would just go into a mass insanity akin to when the CIA dust-cropped LSD on Pont-Saint-Espirit in 1951


    2. Xenonlit profile image61
      Xenonlitposted 5 years agoin reply to this
    3. JSChams profile image59
      JSChamsposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      Jesus wouldn't need a weapon.

  2. brimancandy profile image79
    brimancandyposted 5 years ago

    He would turn the gun into wine and drink it.

    1. ptosis profile image73
      ptosisposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      Wine? Or a Mexican flag shooter?

  3. jmicchael1a profile image59
    jmicchael1aposted 5 years ago

    If anyone misunderstands my individual take on GOP Congressman Gohmert's recent assessment of the gut wrenching calamity of Aurora. Please be sure to enjoy this offering from The National Memo....

    http://www.nationalmemo.com/today-in-st … -colorado/

  4. Mighty Mom profile image84
    Mighty Momposted 5 years ago

    HuffPo link very helpful to frame the forum thread. Could not bring myself to watch the video on a full stomach.
    National Memo link offers useful commentary.

    I went to investigate Rep. Gohmert's background. Thought he might have been part of the TP Class of 2005. The TP part is right, but he's been in office since 2005.

    JSChams, I know you're unhappy with the error made on ABC mistaking the Aurora shooter with a Colorado Tea Party member of the SAME NAME. Honest mistake?

    With or without that  that unfortunate reporting error, the Tea Party link seems indelible here.
    QUESTION: Why do ANY Tea Party crazies get ANY spotlight (media coverage) on this tragedy??

    1. JSChams profile image59
      JSChamsposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      Mighty Mom it's something they go looking for. A mistake is a mistake yes but they did the same thing with Jared Loughner.

  5. SpanStar profile image60
    SpanStarposted 5 years ago

    This Aurora shooter certainly needed to be stopped by any means necessary. Listening to the video I understand that people in Colorado are permitted to carry concealed weapons. It is sad that we have created a society to where carrying a gun has quickly become a necessity.

    I further read that this Aurora shooter purchased 6000 rounds I venture to say this guy was not finished killing.

    1. jmicchael1a profile image59
      jmicchael1aposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      Hi SpanStar. You are absolutely correct this individual would have left greater carnage than he did had there not been what I believe was a weapon failure. I was never sure why he discontinued his assault.
      I disagree with the conceal carry laws and law enforcement does as well. The very good reason for that is civilians are not trained and do not continuously train to properly use the weapon they can carry. We were very foolish to discontinue the assault weapon ban. A 100 round clip? Really Bambi is not that tough.

      1. ptosis profile image73
        ptosisposted 5 years agoin reply to this

        In AZ most who carry do it openly and a lot of stores has posted; 'No weapons', which include knives. Police are trained and should be able to carry at all times.

        The weapons that Batman shooter had were not concealed - those are big guns - and the concealed weapon law has nothing to do with this situation.

        The next movie is "Arrow" are we to ban compound bows?

        With all due respect, the reason why no politico is calling for a gun ban is because talk of a gun ban spurs gun sales. Everybody and anybody with money goes out and buys a gun whenever this happens because of reactionary anti-gun people who go a little overboard with poor logic of connecting a huge gun that Batman carried unconcealed & concealed weapons laws.


  6. jmicchael1a profile image59
    jmicchael1aposted 5 years ago

    Thanks for dropping by Ptosis. You are correct. When politicians crank up the "gun-control" rhetoric, the knee jerk response of the paranoiac gun hugger is to ramp up the in house arsenal. God knows it must take more than two or a dozen100 round clipped assault weapons to defend yourself against your own government. Defense against a government take over being the popular rationale for owning an assault weapon. Nazi Germany is always the favored example when defending this nonsense. But I digress.

    Your response makes me think you did not read my original post. If I am wrong, I apologize. The main issue was Representative Gohbert's suggestion that an armed patron at the movie theatre engaging "Penguin" in a gun battle might have altered the incident into a better outcome. I adamantly disagreed. This author did not reach an inappropriate conclusion about assault weapons with this post. I never addressed the issue.
    I am thankful that you included a poster regarding Switzerland and its gun policy outcomes. However, the Switzerland story that your poster depicts is an incomplete representation of facts. The inference is, if USA citizens swung an assault weapon over their shoulder, they would be as safe as the Swiss. Here is the information this poster doesn't supply:

    (1) Switzerland has no standing Army and conscripts citizens (men and women) for service in its militia.
    (2) Military and weapons training is significant and on going. 
    (3) The weapons are provided by the government.
    (4) After active duty, the weapon must be returned or modified to a semi-auto capability.
    (5) All military grade munitions are returned.

    By providing us with this poster, are you suggesting assault weapon use by an American civilian with no training would be as well executed as a Swiss citizen handling the same weapon? If so, you are sorely mistaken. Wisely, you did not contradict my assertion that law enforcement does not believe concealed carry to be a best case option.

    If the reader would like to read a comprehensive review of Switzerland's gun policy please go here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_politi … irculation

    1. ptosis profile image73
      ptosisposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      Great post. learned a bit about the Swiss., as you say, Swiss are trained , US are not. Perhaps we all should be certified for it when getting the permit. Like a driver's license.. In NYC, a NY gun license is no good. yet I would think that's a more dangerous place than upstate with the bears & cougars.

      1. Mighty Mom profile image84
        Mighty Momposted 5 years agoin reply to this

        Not to mention the Hamptons.
        Crazy dangerous out there.
        Bigshots in big houses need big, big guns!