Can you believe Carter's grandson's cajones?

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  1. Mighty Mom profile image79
    Mighty Momposted 11 years ago

    This whole leaked Romney tape keeps getting weirder and weirder and weirder.
    Now, it turns out that James Carter IV, Jimmy Carter's grandson, is the one who gave the tape to Mother Jones.
    Is anyone else struck by this fact?
    James to Romney:
    Stop dissing my grandpa ... or I'll sink your campaign! … s-47-tape/

    1. phion profile image60
      phionposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      It does strike me that this poor whelp and others are trying to turn this into some kind controversial topic. I know we aren’t used to our politicians telling the truth, but if I was him I wouldn’t count on those that he was referring to…Truth… not the vets, elderly, handicapped, or the long list of others that you facilitators try to imply he was referring to.
      Romney doesn’t need to diss Carter; history I think has done that.
      More sinking ship talks from like the 25th person to talk about it today. The only ship that appears to be sinking is the row boat of Obama. He doesn’t have the experience to run this ship, and every sign points to that fact. You will see an America truly doomed if we don’t get rid of this amateur community organizer, which votes present in the Senate, believes in socialist ideas, and divides America more and more.

      Carter’s little tike/wannabe spy is old news, Mother Jones is the more interesting contributor.

      1. Uninvited Writer profile image76
        Uninvited Writerposted 11 years agoin reply to this

        If you take away all those people you are talking about how do you even get 47% of the population?
        As has been said by many, most of these 47% work, they pay payroll taxes, they pay sales taxes ... they pay taxes.

        1. American View profile image61
          American Viewposted 11 years agoin reply to this


          You are right, but that is not the statistic everyone uses , it is based on Adjusted Gross Income. That is where the 47% statistic everyone uses including this President, comes from. The 47% number comes from IRS reports, and they should know who pays taxes and who does not.

          1. psycheskinner profile image80
            psycheskinnerposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            It is a valid point to say that almost everyone pays sales tax.  It just isn't reported to the IRS under their name.

            1. profile image0
              SassySue1963posted 11 years agoin reply to this

              Sales taxes are state taxes. There is no national sales tax. When they speak of the tax burden, they are speaking of federal revenue.

        2. phion profile image60
          phionposted 11 years agoin reply to this

          First of all, it's not the whole video, and second, hindsight is 20/20.
          Shall we try and pick which one Romney or Obama has said the most disturbing things? That will be fun, and we both know Obama will win that contest, especially if we just count lies, false hopes, and broken promises to Americans.

    2. Billy Hicks profile image75
      Billy Hicksposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      I think someone must've found his Uncle's stash of "Billy Beer".

  2. Joe Badtoe profile image59
    Joe Badtoeposted 11 years ago

    Maybe Carter wants to save his country from the disaster of Romney and his Corporate Masters? Jimmy Carter struck me as the kind of conservative with a real sense of fairness and a man who would prefer to seek out peace than conflict. Romney,in my opinion is the opposite of this. Romney isn't fit to be a President of his own neighbourhood let alone a country brought to its knees by his own party. It's hard to find a more unpatriotic man so high up in a party that prides itself on patriotism.

    1. phion profile image60
      phionposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      I think the people that actually know Romney, you know the ones that aren't in the commercials...would love for him to be their President. You'd think Romney just stepped on your badtoe.

      1. Jed Fisher profile image68
        Jed Fisherposted 11 years agoin reply to this

        I think the people who actually know Romney are buying his way into the White House for him so that he can grant them presidential pardons for the crimes they intend to commit.

        1. Xenonlit profile image60
          Xenonlitposted 11 years agoin reply to this


        2. American View profile image61
          American Viewposted 11 years agoin reply to this

          Buying his way in? You do know Obama spent more money than any other presidential campaign in history? You are aware of the large gap in spending Obama has over Romney so far? You are aware Obama is outspending what he has coming in? Hmmm That sounds familiar, about 6 trillion time familiar

        3. phion profile image60
          phionposted 11 years agoin reply to this

          Like I've said before the left just likes to accuse others of what they are guilty of.

    2. AJReissig profile image70
      AJReissigposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Jimmy carter and conservative do not belong in the same sentence.  Granted, he is not the Marxist that Obama is, but he is definately not conservative.

      1. habee profile image92
        habeeposted 11 years agoin reply to this

        I don't think of Jimmah Cottuh as a conservative, either. He was a terrible prez, but he's done some good work since.

    3. Mitch Alan profile image78
      Mitch Alanposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Carter Conservative? Huh?

  3. Xenonlit profile image60
    Xenonlitposted 11 years ago

    You go kid! You just slayed your first monster.

  4. Joe Badtoe profile image59
    Joe Badtoeposted 11 years ago

    phion - I think Romney is as suitable a candidate for the Presidency as Sarah Palin is and I can wait up for you to get the sarcasm... Romney appears to be in Israel's pocket and seems happy to commit thousands of US soldiers to early graves to satisfy the psychopathic urges of Netanyahu - I presume you're ok with that? Republican party has lost a lot of fair minded people who have been replaced by rhesus monkeys who'll do anything for a banana, why they might even eat it too....

    1. American View profile image61
      American Viewposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Gee, did Phion upset you when he stepped on your badtoe? LOL, Sorry, I had to say

      As much as dis not think Palin should be VP or President, I would vote for her over Obama, and that was not sarcastic. To admit that I would vote for someone I do not consider qualified should tell you how much more unqualified Obama is.

      Romney is no more in Netanyahu;s pocket than the claims that Obama is in the Muslim brotherhoods pocket. But what Obama has destroyed, Romney will fix.  Israel is our only strong ally in the region, and an important one. Her country is face with threat of annihilation, we share that same threat from the same people. It is good to know we have each others back.

      America is not a nation that wants to go to war, but we will not back down. If one attacks us, we will hold them accountable.

      Having said that, as we know, Romney is a Mormon. Mormon's do not believe in war. Romney"s past actions show that he is not in favor of war. Making condemning statements after the embassy attacks is one thing, committing troops in the face of a real serious threat is another. Will he do it despite his religious beliefs?.

      1. Joe Badtoe profile image59
        Joe Badtoeposted 11 years agoin reply to this

        'America is not a nation that wants to go to war, but we will not back down. If one attacks us, we will hold them accountable'. That's your problem right there - complete ignorance of US imperialism over the last 60 years - and please Romney as a peacemaker?? The man is a puppet for darker forces.

        1. American View profile image61
          American Viewposted 11 years agoin reply to this

          US Imperialism?? I do not know where you live but it is obvious from your answer it is not in the US. Do you enjoy the US imperialistic dollars your country receives in aid from the US ??

          1. Josak profile image60
            Josakposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            Hey AV did you know we don't give money to most countries? Did you know there are even a couple who give to us? I guess not.

            1. American View profile image61
              American Viewposted 11 years agoin reply to this

              Typical lefty twist from someone that claims to be informed but drinks the Koolaid and spouts talking points.

              Here is where you're wrong Josak. There were approximately 192 countries in the world, forgive me if I'm off a country or two. The United States gives aid to approximately 150 of them. I don't know, last time I looked at a math book 150 qualified as "most" of 192.

          2. Joe Badtoe profile image59
            Joe Badtoeposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            laughable - do you enjoy the high death count of millions of innocent people who have suffered at the hands of those offering US dollars?  Until you accept your share of blame for the disasters of imperialism AV you'll be forever in denial. I live in UK we also have plenty of blood on our hands. I find that challenging or disputing the history of your own country does eventually reveal darker truths. There are thing the UK has been involved in that fills me with shame not pride. Patriotism is an excuse to turn a blind eye to the wrongdoings of your country.

            1. American View profile image61
              American Viewposted 11 years agoin reply to this

              UK, I knew it. Your view will change once you get out of college or perhaps you are fresh out of college. It will take a number of years of doing readings and research on your own other than the materials that were spoon fed you in college.

              Come back after you have lived some life, done some growing up, faced some of the tests of life.

              What would you do if somebody blows up your house and kills all your family? I guess you'll sit around and do nothing.

              1. Joe Badtoe profile image59
                Joe Badtoeposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                you know me so well - or rather you're as intelligent as I thought - I've probably been on this earth longer than you and thankfully I've travelled met other people experienced other cultures read lots of books if only to make sure I don't turn out to be so ignorant as you. How many houses in Afghanistan, Pakistan and Iraq have been blown up and families killed by US bombs? Many of those killed have nothing to do with the fake terrorism. You are the worst kind of patriot believing every word your govt tells you and accusing anyone who disagrees with your view of being naive. My views are based on the realities of greed and what the powerful are prepared to do to get their way. You seem ok with that and don't really care who dies in the process. And for that we're never likely to reach any kind of parity. As for reading and research I've been doing this for years because I don't take a corporate owned media news service as the best source for truth. Clearly you do otherwise we wouldn't be having such a ludicrous debate.

                Having said that I wish you a life of good fortune and health. Thanks.

                1. American View profile image61
                  American Viewposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                  World Traveler, LOL, I bet you have not even traveled outside the confines of th UK.

                  As for our bombs, they killed more of their own countrymen by blowing them up, nerve gasses and more than our bombs have.Talk about uninformed.

                  I notice you did not answer my question, I knew you would not. Typical.In the mean time, Cheerio, have a spot of tea and keep reading.

    2. phion profile image60
      phionposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Joe~ I'd rather support Israel than the Muslim brotherhood.

    3. phion profile image60
      phionposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Oh, and when is the last time we acquired or held colonies? Every war in the last 60 years we go in with the best intentions, and leave, usually giving billions upon billions in aid.
      If we forced Iraq, Afghanistan, Vietnam, Panama, Grenada, or any other country to give us oil or anything else, then you could talk to me about our imperialism.

      1. phion profile image60
        phionposted 11 years agoin reply to this

        let’s not forget Libya, who has some of the richest oil in the region.

      2. ptosis profile image69
        ptosisposted 11 years agoin reply to this

        Maybe you should look at the first ten minutes of Daily Show since you are so opened minded. … -2012-pink

        " ... "The biggest problem with the denizens of Bullshit Mountain, is they act like their shit don't stink. If they have success, 'they built it'. If they failed, the government ruined it for them. If they get a break, they deserve it. If you get a break, it's a 'handout' and an 'entitlement'. It's a baffling, willfully blind, cognitive dissonance ... "

        ClusterPhuck on Bull$h!t Mountain will be a classic for some time.

      3. Joe Badtoe profile image59
        Joe Badtoeposted 11 years agoin reply to this

        That's hilarious - god knows what history books you read - wanna talk about Chile, Nicaragua and how their democracy was bombed with US backing so US friendly puppet govts could be installed. 'Go to war with the best intentions'? Are you serious? Staggered by such crass ignorance.

        1. phion profile image60
          phionposted 11 years agoin reply to this

          My point is...What have we gained from any of these wars? We don't go in saying "let’s steal their oil, their gold, their minerals". In fact we pay for them to learn how to make these recourses useful to themselves. Sounds like the opposite of Imperialism to me. If you want to look back to the 70’s or further back, yes we had many questionable and destructive foreign influences, and we had a tendency to rob nations of their raw materials. I’m not arguing that we have had failed policies in the past, or present for that matter. If people in these countries choose to sell private corporations the rights to their minerals, then that’s their choice.
          You act as if America is the one and only Country that tries to influence other countries for our benefit. Do I agree with every instance of our influence, no. Would I rather it be us instead of China, Russia, UK, Iran, Brazil, or any other country, of course.
          You can go on hating our involvement in the world, and I’ll go on believing that we are the driving force of freedom. We may not always act the role, but we do a lot better job than the rest of the industrialized world.

          1. Joe Badtoe profile image59
            Joe Badtoeposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            On the contrary phion the US as driven by Wall St do go into countries and say 'let's steal their resources' why else would countries that pose no serious military threat to the US be invaded by the US?

            The US has historically 'invaded' countries under the premise of offering 'aid' whilst effectively installing a US friendly govt at the cost of eliminating democratically elected presidents. I suggest you read Perkins (an American) book 'confessions of an economic hitman' to see how this works. The US is the most powerful country in the world and the actions of the CIA abroad  since the Second World War would be considered as war crimes if it was any other country perpetrating such huge internal carnage in foreign countries. The problem America has is that it needs to save it from itself. I say this as someone who loves parts of the US and who has two relatives serving in the US Military and five close relatives who live and work in the US. I think as long as people like you and American View (who dispels a much greater ignorance) maintain the delusion that US govts are always full of good intentions when they 'assist' countries in need there will always be conflict abroad. How do you think the Chinese economy grew to be so strong? The West (particularly the US) poured money into the country to exploit cheap labour and production costs whilst sacrificing the jobs of their own citizens  (Romney is very adept at this) yet here you are defending such a domestic disaster. I note and am appreciative of the fact that you acknowledge US mistakes abroad but sadly you fail to mention the human cost to such disasters or how a legacy of hatred towards the US was created by the US itself. I have every respect for Americans who played no part in such historical tragedies but I have zero respect for US govts or its Agents who sent their own soldiers abroad to die in wars created by US corporate greed.

            Wall St has much to answer for and given the way that successive US govts have systematically ripped its own country apart through a series of financial disasters and economic meltdown in order to protect those who caused the meltdown I really do fear for the future. US has no right or excuse to join with Israel to attack Iran just like it had no justifiable reason to bomb Iraq or Afghanistan (and how much has this cost the US in lives, reputation and dollars?) yet if Romney is elected I suspect he will do Israel's bidding. Have you ever asked why he would want to do this? The answer to that is the answer to why the US has attacked its own poor and isolated the 1%. The next 5 years will be the era of the drone missiles (a CIA invention along with an Israeli Engineer) that will be used to control the US and murder more innocent people abroad. I hope to god I'm wrong. I don't hate America but I hate what corrupt warmongering politicians and bankers has done to America.

            Thanks for the debate phion you seem reasonably fair.

            1. phion profile image60
              phionposted 11 years agoin reply to this

              Joe~ What 1st world country hasn’t done the things that we despise about the USA? The rich have always held the power, it’s only when puppets get into office and feed the masses lies, that we think it can ever change. Even if there was to be a worldwide revolution, and the meek took over power, do you think injustice would stay away for long? We aren’t the only one with agents doing horrendous acts across the globe. I still believe that America is the lesser of the evils that exist, and I would choose it over China, Russia, Iran, or anyone else.
              The next five years I think will see the aggression and violence of mankind peak yet again. As the Muslim world catches fire, and calls for all out annihilation of their enemies, I’m left with little hope of peace. The President has tried to reach out to the Muslim world, only to see himself burned in effigy. Christians are being crucified in Egypt, and more and more Muslims are being radicalized.
              At least we can both agree that the politicians and bankers have screwed us for decades, and brought us to the crossroads at which we stand. 
              To the stealing of resources, yes corporations from EVERY major country does it. Are we getting the lion’s share of resources from Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, or anywhere else? No. Many times, at least in the more recent military actions, other nations are the ones who benefit. We do the heavy lifting or whatever you want call it, and then China, Russia, and Iran come in and clean up. Iran’s is gaining huge influence in Iraq, even though Iraqi’s sort of despise them. China is eying natural resources and minerals in Afghanistan.  We don’t stand to make any profit from Libya’s oil. My point is I don’t think we go to places with the main objective of robbing them of their resources, like the “great” nations did in the colonial days. Nowadays it’s usually for some BS geopolitical reason, or retaliation. These are a few reasons I would like to be voting for Paul this November.


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