BBC is reporting "Obama effigy hanged in Jimmy Carter's home town"

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The Ropeposted 13 years ago
"...The US Secret Service says it is investigating after an effigy of Barack Obama was found hanging in the home town of former President Jimmy Carter.

TV footage showed the doll hanging by a noose in front of a red, white and blue sign that reads "Plains, Georgia. Home of Jimmy Carter, our 39th President".

Witnesses said the effigy had President Obama's name on it."
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  AEvansposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  What is the world coming to? The same people who voted are now the same ones who are upset. I don't get it, I just don't get it.
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  sandra rinckposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Actually, it looks like a works of supremacist. Not likely they voted for him.
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  Randy Godwinposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Nope Sandra, probably not a supremacist. Not many Georgians vote democrat in this state. Just the work of our typical Georgia racists, I would imagine. This isn't surprising at all if you've lived down here.
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  Ralph Deedsposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I hope Sandra has a good alibi!
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  SweetiePieposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I have an inkling the people who created this effigy did not vote for Obama.
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  cosetteposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  i read that in the paper this morning. whoever did that is in serious trouble. i bet they are combing it for fingerprints and DNA samples...
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  rhamsonposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Is it because Obama is black that the poor economy and the wars are raging on? I thought it was the politics. Boy that shows you what I know.
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  Curious Jenposted 13 years agoin reply to this
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  MikeNVposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Why is this coming from the BBC and not the United States Media?
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  earnestshubposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  The BBC has better news! Generally there are many more news reports and the latest science information not available elsewhere till later if at all.
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  Ron Montgomeryposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  But, correct me if I'm wrong; they are foreigners right? Can we trust any of those people?
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  earnestshubposted 13 years agoin reply to this
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  Dao Hoaposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  BBC usually the first to report the news and it is a trust worthy Media.
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  Springboardposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I don't agree with Mr. Obama's policies. I think the path he is leading this country down is one which will have unintended consequences, and that while there was a bit of a mess over the last eight years, the current administration is only adding a new mess on top of it that we'll have to really get down to business fixing in 2014.
  
  None of my issues with him have anything at all to do with race, nor should it.
  
  This kind of stuff troubles me greatly. We are a better nation than this, and worst of all, with growing problems with our credibility overseas, this just adds fuel to the fire and makes our entire country look like buffoons..
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  Ron Montgomeryposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  A BIT OF A MESS?
  
  As in, "Katrina was a bit of a storm"?
  
  What pray tell will be fixed in 2014?
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  sooner than laterposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  It's a pretty common thing throughout history. Spanish speaking countries do this sort of thing all the time. I guess it would be a bad time to sell my obama piniata's?
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  Brenda Durhamposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I'll buy some. lol
  Would make good stress-relievers.
  I'm outta shoes to throw.
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kmackey32posted 13 years ago
Me neither. People are messed up.
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Denno66posted 13 years ago
Instant Gratification is a disease that grips a great many American these days; that's sad.
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readytoescapeposted 13 years ago
Someone please tell the US SS I was no where near Georgia this a weekend.

Is it just that it was Obama, or the POTUS that has everyone upset, or the effigy in general?

There are a few college football coaches that would agree with the last.

However it is a pretty stupid statement.
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cosetteposted 13 years ago
this was obviously the work of some racist idiots. those of us who voted for the President and dislike him now wouldn't do anything that stupid or outlandish
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  Sa Toyaposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  
  I think it's deff racist...just found out about it myself been out all day...but that's racists for ya...if the were racists
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cosetteposted 13 years ago
yep. you know, i wouldn't want the Secret Service on my a$$. i pity those fools.
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Brenda Durhamposted 13 years ago
It's scary when things like that happen.

But I would hope that no one jumps to the conclusion that it's a racist act.

Because there are other reasons someone might be angry about Obama. One is the fact that he's shown himself to be a traitorous tyrant-wannabe.
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  Ron Montgomeryposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  You're absolutely wrong about that. Hanging a black man in effigy in the U.S. South is of course a racist act.
  
  That doesn't mean we know anything more about who committed the act, other than the deliberate attempt to stir up emotions by exploiting racial conflict.
  
  Among the possibilities is that an Obama supporter did this in an attempt to tarnish his detractors.
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  PrettyPantherposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I'm probably going to regret asking this, but I honestly want to know, because I hear this kind of stuff all the time.
  
  What, exactly, has Obama done that rises to the level of "traitorous"?
  
  Also, what, exactly, has he done that would earn him the label "tyrant"?
  
  On both questions, please be very specific.
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  Brenda Durhamposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Traitorous actions are many. Among them, his downing of the very basis of this nation, including his anti-Christian crap and his defense of the CIA's handling of terrorist prisoners.
  
  Tyrant-----so you haven't watched him closely have you?!
  He's a bully who would be king. I think he'd probably fit the label "narcissum" to a T, as Hitler did. Not only does he bully the U.S. by manipulating our legal system; he also has bullied Congress itself to force them to back his agenda.
  
  And the people always find an excuse for him, or else find a patsy to take the fall for his actions.
  
  What other President would get by with letting Air Force One scare the crap outta New Yorkers, and yet not blame HIM for it, but lay the blame on someone else?
  
  What other President would get by with allowing a man to replace his Senate seat based directly and specifically on the fact that the replacement is black?
  
  Obama is succeeding in enslaving the minds of many.
  Some blacks, because he plays the race card into the history of the U.S.
  Some whites and others, because he, once again, plays the race card into U.S. history, sliding by on the perceived guilt-status that he apparently believes all whites should have.
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  PrettyPantherposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Ah, I regret it even more than I thought I would.
  
  You might want to study up a bit on what actual traitors do to get convicted of treason. Also, maybe study a real tyrant or to. Maybe you could start with Pol Pot? Or Idi Amin?
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  Randy Godwinposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Did you speak out against Dubya corrupting our justice system? I seriously doubt it. Like Ron, I wonder where you get your info. Fox News, maybe? And Earnest is correct about the BBC being a great news source.
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  readytoescapeposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Without trying to start the inevitable verbal war, but to answer your question what has he done, at least for question number 1 “traitorous” begins with the oath of office. US Constitution, Article II section 1
  
  "I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."
  
  The consensus of opinion from most conservatives and those in opposition is that Mr. Obama violated this oath, almost from the second he uttered the words, in that he willfully took the oath under pretense and had no intention of defending the Constitution and it’s Articles as written and intended.
  
  The belief is such an action is a violation of Article 2 section 4, in that he believes the Constitution to be nothing more than a list of “negative liberties” to be altered and shaped how he and/or the powers that be chose. He articulated this and much more of his beliefs in a 2001 radio interview. (a youtube search will easily find this and you can decide for yourself).
  
  There are also opinions that he is guilty of other violations pursuant to Article II section 4, “The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.”
  
  And questions of his terror policies which could be construed as a violation of Article III section 3, “Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort.
  
  As to tyranny, the options are open to interpretation of the actions he and the congress have so far perpetrated and still plan.
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  Ralph Deedsposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Why don't you provide us with the "list of Obama's violations" if you can.
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  readytoescapeposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Personally, I think the first one is enough.
  
  Ralph as an educated and informed man I sure you have heard the interview I refered to in the above post. The man in his own carefully chosen words defined that he thought and fervently believed the Constitution was nothing more than a negative list "of what the government can't do to you" and should be used, applied and changed to enhance what the government should do "on your behalf".
  
  If you haven’t please take the opportunity to do so, it is quite enlightening. The substance of course is liberal progressive fodder so it should be easy to listen too. The redistribution of wealth crowd may even be able to dance to it.
  
  In my opinion and that of many others he is incorrect, but certainly welcome to his on opinion however swearing and/or affirming “to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States,” while not believing in its tenants sure seems to be perjury if nothing else.
  
  That used to be a High Crime, maybe things have changed.
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  Richard VanIngramposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Oh, I'm sure race has nothing to do with it -- in a crazy state with a long and established history of white bigots lynching or abusing any black person they perceive as not staying "in their proper place."
  
  I was born and raised in Georgia, lived there 43 miserable years. My mother was from South Georgia from around the Plains area and my father was from North Georgia in the Appalachian Mountains. Racism is alive and well in Georgia at both ends of the state and many people are livid a black man actually got into office -- and a Democrat and educated "liberal" to boot.
  
  However, whites in rural areas don't discuss their beliefs openly, most of them, as they know it is unfashionable and not accepted by "outsiders." Instead, most are dressing up their hate by calling President Obama a "socialist," a "communist," a "traitor," and a "tyrant." And worse. What they really mean is he's black, not conservative, and they're angry he got into the White House where "his kind don't belong."
  
  I moved to Texas -- in part because the atmosphere is actually less racially charged here and more "liberal" than any place (except Atlanta) ever was in Georgia. And that is sad.
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mikelongposted 13 years ago
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Valerie Fposted 13 years ago
Regardless of the reason, hanging someone in effigy is inexcusable.
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Arthur Fontesposted 13 years ago
If they find those responsible what would the charges be??
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  AnythingArtzyposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Well with the way things are looking under "lil" hitlers reign we may never know if they are caught. they may just ........disappear.
  
  and no I didn't vote for him in case you are wondering
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  AnythingArtzyposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Oh and if I never come back to hub pages after this post you know why
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  Uninvited Writerposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I can hear the black helicopters circling...
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  Ron Montgomeryposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Again, I don't know how you can possibly hear them through your foil hat!
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  Denno66posted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I would never have guessed.
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Brenda Durhamposted 13 years ago
So.....if it was hung in a Northern State, it wouldn't be racism maybe?

I find that a silly argument.

It's similar to echoes of the outrage when McCain called Obama "that one there", which was simply a reference to Obama's leftist ignorance, not his skin color. Yet people jumped on it.
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  Ron Montgomeryposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Among the many subjects you should consider reading up on, maybe some history?
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  Ralph Deedsposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  It's not a silly argument. As you must be aware, lynching is an old tradition in the South and thus is especially sinister. It would be a racist act even in the North.
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  creepyposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I think it would be sinister even in the North, at least it would be to me, you may have an entirely different view.
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  Ralph Deedsposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I agree.
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sweetypie1968posted 13 years ago
It warms my heart to read so many positive posts undermining this hatred. Back in the day they would have thrown a bonfire for these creeps! (If you get the meaning...)
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Poppa Bluesposted 13 years ago
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  Brenda Durhamposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Love it!
  Funny, but oh so true!
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  PrettyPantherposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  My father, who was born in 1926 and grew up in rural Arkansas, witnessed several hangings. All of the victims were black men.
  
  Anecdotal, I know.
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  Poppa Bluesposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I'm not saying racism doesn't exist, I'm quite sure it does, and I'm also quite sure it isn't only a malady of whites. When we all stop jumping to conclusions that's when racism will be conquered, or at least recognized.
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  Ralph Deedsposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Has anybody here said racism "is only a malady of whites?"
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  Poppa Bluesposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Nice try at the save! It has clearly been implied by the discussion from the get go. Just that fact that a black doll was hanged the assumption from the beginning was that it was by a white and therefore represents racism. If a black man hung that effigy, would it still be racism?
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  PrettyPantherposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Whatever the race of the person or persons who perpetuated the act, the act still represents racism. Whoever did it knew full well the implications, as does everyone here, even if they want to pretend they don't.
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Poppa Bluesposted 13 years ago
Was the hanging of Bush if effegy a racist act? How about if it was a black man that did it?

If I was to hang an effigy of Obama to show my displeasure woth his policies, would I be a racist? What if I was black and had done so?

You are all so quick to call something racist when you don't even have all of the facts. It is people like you that promote racism even when it can't be found!

Was Obama a racist when he claimed the white cop acted stupidly in his handling of the gates arrest even before he had any facts, and where was the apology when he learned the cop did his job accordingly? Really, it's not ALWAYS about race!

After all, Obama is Black so what color would an effigy of Obama be?
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  Ron Montgomeryposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Amusing, but not surprising that you don't understand the difference.
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  Poppa Bluesposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Yes, I was hoping you could explain it to me, but of course that would be impossible for you since you've consistently shown yourself to be absent of any logical argument.
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  Ron Montgomeryposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  By your understanding of "logic" , that is true.
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  Randy Godwinposted 13 years agoin reply to this
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Randy Godwinposted 13 years ago
This is too funny. I used to think racism was mainly in the south. But it appears the south has no monopoly on ignorance.
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  creepyposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Why would racism be mainly in the South?
  
  I have seen more racism in the Northeast than I saw in Alabama while I lived there.
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  Ralph Deedsposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I grew up in Louisiana and have lived in Detroit for 30 years or so. There is plenty of racism in both places. But to my knowledge there have been no lynchings in Michigan. Just drive by shootings. Lynching has a special place in the history of the South.
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  creepyposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  What race is doing the majority of drive by shootings?
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  Poppa Bluesposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  And how many of those drive by shootings have been black on black?
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Brenda Durhamposted 13 years ago
Along the lines of this topic........

What about the guy who was killed in one of the Southern States, I believe...........the census-taker, wasn't it?
Was he white or black?

Oh well I guess I should read up on that more.

In the meantime, rest assured there is now blatant racism in the White House, as well as socialism and sinister tyranny..
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  creepyposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  That actually turned out to be a suicide
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  Randy Godwinposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  You don't think Cheney was sinister and tyrannical?
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  Brenda Durhamposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Not that I know of! He was just clumsy and maybe in a hurry.
  But he for sure wasn't audacious enough nor stupid enough to stand in front of the American people and spout stupidity and racism and anti-Americanism and anti-Christ crap.
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Brenda Durhamposted 13 years ago
You're kidding!
Wow, looks like the news moves too fast for me to say up on it.....
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  creepyposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  not kidding
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Arthur Fontesposted 13 years ago
No Title of Nobility shall be granted by the United States: And no Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them, shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince, or foreign State.

Barack Obama will cement the new co-operative relationship between the US and the United Nations this month when he becomes the first American president to chair its 15-member Security Council.

Is he the president? or the UN security council leader? One or the other!! Combination of the two is TREASON!!
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  creepyposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Was consent from the congress given?
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  Arthur Fontesposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  No but then Uncle Ted Kennedy never asked Congress before he accepted knighthood from the UK. How is congress relevant when you are an annointed one..
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  readytoescapeposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Interesting point, I had not read that yet.
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Brenda Durhamposted 13 years ago
Sorry Poppa Blues. My response was to creepy. I shoulda posted the quote.
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Uninvited Writerposted 13 years ago
Do you people know anything about lynchings?

Isn't Plains the same place that had separate churches for blacks and whites when Carter was president?
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  Poppa Bluesposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Do you know anything about effigies?
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  Randy Godwinposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  There are still plenty of segregated churches in Georgia, UW. The more things change, the more they stay the same. Down here anyway.
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  creepyposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  segregated by law or by choice?
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  Brenda Durhamposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  This is the wisest question I've seen so far.
  
  If if were possible for that to be properly answered, and honestly answered, by both blacks and whites, we might actually have a chance to stop the racial battle.
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  Randy Godwinposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Mostly fear and tradition!
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  creepyposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  So why not be the first to overcome the fear and tradition and join a black/white church?
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  Randy Godwinposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I have long overcome fear and tradition, it's why I do not go to church at all.
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  creepyposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Ok then
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  Ron Montgomeryposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Hmmmm, and all this time I thought you went to one of those where they handle snakes.
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  Randy Godwinposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Hey Ron! Yes, I visited one of the snake handling churches once. I heard there was an albino diamondback rattler being passed around by the church members and wanted to get a look, snake aficionado that I am.
  
  Sure enough,the snake was brandished around before being handed over to the members with the most faith. I was unknown in those parts so I stepped in line and waved the poor creature around like everyone else. But not before noticing his fangs (a rattler has several sets in case they break off) had been removed.
  
  But no, I had my fill of religion at an early age.
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  Ron Montgomeryposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Damned snake handling heretics.
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Uninvited Writerposted 13 years ago
But you have to admit it sends a different message when it is a black man in the United States. Why are you defending the idiot who did it, no matter what the reason?
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  creepyposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  isnt obama half white?
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  PrettyPantherposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Your point?
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  creepyposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  My point should be obvious, he is neither black or white, he transcends race, at least I read that on the Huffington Post
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  PrettyPantherposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Your point is stupid, and you know it.
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  creepyposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Stupid? Maybe, just as stupid as anything written here. I have read that people in the South are more racist than they are in the North, where is the poll on this gem?
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  PrettyPantherposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Where did you read that? I must've missed it.
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  creepyposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I doubt you missed it you are just not seeing the same things I am. I am from the Northeast and lived in Alabama for three years, I see more racism in the North than I ever saw in the South, and I was looking for it.
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  PrettyPantherposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Well, if someone said it, I don't agree with it myself.
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  creepyposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  People are talking about segregated church's, if they are segregated it is by choice, this does not mean there is no racism it just means it occurs on both side of the color line!
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  Brenda Durhamposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I don't think you understand.
  I doubt very many do!
  And it's probably an idea that's not even occurred to some, much less anyone have the guts to just SAY IT.
  
  And that would be that just maybe...
  there are many many blacks AND whites who don't want to be "integrated", at least not forcibly integrated.
  Desegregation simply for the sake of desegregation has done neither race any good!
  There is nothing wrong with preferring to go to a "black" church or a "white" church. There is nothing wrong with preferring to associate with a specific race of people. The issue of racism only comes in when a person is refused acceptance in a circle where EVERYONE should be welcomed according to their human rights and legal rights. In a predominantly-black city, say, it's wrong to exclude whites from interacting in the job market or the city activities simply because they're white (or vice-versa; you get my drift). But if a particular person doesn't find a friendship bond with another person, or simply doesn't like their personality, or whatever, there's no reason to invite them over for a barbecue or make a point of congregating with them just 'cause they're white (or black, or whatever.)
  It's the same as a man preferring, say, blondes over brunettes, or a woman preferring a tall muscular man over a slim one, or whatever.
  How many blacks do we know of who invite whites into "their" churches?
  Again, there's nothing wrong with having preferences on who we want to associate with!
  Did I say something taboo? lol. I no longer care, since our supposedly-civil-rights-advocating-President has had the audacity to impose his own ulterior motives and horrible agenda into MY life along with the rest of American citizens.
  Yes, historically, the burden of proof of NOT being racist has fallen onto the shoulders of whites, in particular white churches.
  This racism issue has become so distorted by the liberal agenda that it's ridiculous.
  So, no, I'm not racist.
  I do prefer friends who are white, I suppose, mainly because I know they don't have a civil-rights, vengeance chip on their shoulders I'd have to deal with!
  And I don't like traditionally-black music styles! It's not who sings it, it's just that I don't like that style of singing or music. I don't like rap music, just as I didn't like disco. Is it taboo to say that? I sure hope not; 'cause it's my freedom and my right to say it; because those are traditionally "black" activities (the rap music; the saggy pants, etc.)
  But if I were to have the chance, these days to be friends with anyone who's black (I had some black friends during my school days), my decision would be based on whether or not I liked that person, not on their skin color, just as it was made years ago.
  
  P.S.
  I despise everything Barack Obama and Colin Powell and Jesse Jackson stand for. But then, I also despise what Hilary Clinton and Bill and Nancy Pelosi stand for.
  
  I like Sarah Palin, except that she's too soft when it comes to battling the gay agenda.
  For a "leader", or maybe President, I'd still prefer her over what we have or any of the libs.
  I used to like and respect Colin Powell until he showed his racism.
  One preference would be Larry Elder, a black commentator who shows some common sense about today's politics, and even the race issues we face today. He's in the same category, in my view, as Glenn Beck, whom I agree with almost 98% of the time, the disagreeable 2% being his Mormon views and his tendency to put the Republican Party in the same category as the Democrat one.
  
  Do you see what I mean?
  
  It's not racist to have preferences!
  
  I can't make someone like me based on me being a person with white skin.
  And neither should I be forced to "like" someone simply because they have black skin.
  
  I'm so sick of the liberal crap being shoved down our throats, even to the point of the "thought police" that's being put in place by Obama's stupid "hate crimes bill".. what a load of crap!
  If we could justly prosecute someone for their "hatred", we'd have to put him in jail right away, 'cause he's shown his racism very vividly!
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  Brenda Durhamposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  creepy,
  he has basically disavowed his "white" heritage.
  
  I guess it's easier for him to obtain compassion for his agenda that way.
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Uninvited Writerposted 13 years ago
Some hear what they want to hear.
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  Brenda Durhamposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  And some defend racism based on who's in power.
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Uninvited Writerposted 13 years ago
I will not argue with trolls
I will not argue with trolls
I will not argue with trolls
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Brenda Durhamposted 13 years ago
I will not take crap from liberals
I will not take crap from liberals
I will not take crap from liberals

Especially those who harrass conservatives by accusing them of hatred and calling them trolls.
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  Uninvited Writerposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Who is harrassing you?
  
  And I was not referring to you, you should be careful of jumping to conclusions.
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Brenda Durhamposted 13 years ago
creepy,
there's nothing stupid about the facts you pointed out.
Just 'cause Obama stays mum about his own heritage doesn't mean the average intelligent person shouldn't be able to discuss it without being called stupid.

PrettyPanther is vewwy vewwy rude.

very very rude.
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  PrettyPantherposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Naw, he actually admitted his point was stupid. Did you miss that?
  
  I didn't call HIM stupid, that would be rude.
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  creepyposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  It was to make a larger point, not to stir up trouble.
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cosetteposted 13 years ago
Brenda, Google "lynching". that should explain why this is racist.
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Arthur Fontesposted 13 years ago
This reminds me of the Flag episode of South Park
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  cosetteposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  
  "hot shower, hot shower!"
  
  oh i had forgotten about that hee hee
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  Uninvited Writerposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Where is your bunny hitting head against wall animation?
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  Siotoshposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  They might have being inspired by some of the sick thinking, of Christian Conservative on Hubpages forum.
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  Ralph Deedsposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Very possibly. HubPages attracts all kinds.
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  Uninvited Writerposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I think Brenda did it, she is too defensive
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  Brenda Durhamposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I don't think I'm defensive, as much as I'm offensive to liberals. I rather enjoy that thought. I've no interest in whether they like me or not, since I'm quite at ease with sticking to principles. Obama's and other liberals' views aren't really principles; they're opinions, and opinions based on a selfish agenda.
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  livelongerposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Your opinions are principles, while those of people who don't agree with you are just opinions. Are you an elitist?
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  AEvansposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  The entire situation disgusts me, racists, supremist, Christian, Non-Christian the entire thing makes me nauseous to say the least.
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  Siotoshposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I know Bibo for grown ups
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  Brenda Durhamposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Do y'all think if you repost the word "sick" enough times, it will make it so?
  
  I consider the liberal view quite "sick" myself.
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  Siotoshposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Me too sick liberal: I'm a Fedelist
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  Ron Montgomeryposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Are you saying a bunch of 3rd graders did it?
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  Arthur Fontesposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  In south park their flag had 4 white guys lynching a black man and the citizens of south park claimed it was their historical heritage while chef very correctly considered it racist.
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  Ron Montgomeryposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I saw the episode, but took something entirely different from it. In the end the boys were figuratively "color blind". They did not realize there was a racial message behind the flag. Chef was touched by the explanation given by the "little crackers". Such innocence is endearing when represented by 9 year olds. It is disgusting when adults claim to not be able to see racism where it clearly exists. A person who claims to not understand the signifigance of the act that started this discussion is hopefully just fooling themselves and not actually that ignorant. It's frightening to think of these people actually walking among us, or even worse operating a motor vehicle.
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Brenda Durhamposted 13 years ago
hmmm....
ya mean like in the old West, where robbers and other outlaws were lynched?? Was that racist?? lol

ahhh....so do you see how judgemental your view is?

I'm not saying the discussed-example wasn't racist!
I'm just saying neither you nor I know if it WAS.

And there's one thing about it.....

there's a habit going around these days where anyone who's black can say just about anything they want to, while whites cannot.
Case in point-----the black comedian who said she hoped Rush Limbaugh's kidneys fail. How horrible! And she and others pretend that Rush saying he hopes Obama fails is a racist statement!
I hope Obama fails too, in his agenda! Bacause his agenda is radically-anti-American and just plain wrong. Has nothing to do with his skin color from my view.
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Brenda Durhamposted 13 years ago
Another case in point---
I saw a bit of The View this morning.
Whoopie Goldberg sat there, itching to attack, while 3 white actors from All My Children were interviewed.
Guess what her question was, the one she just couldn't wait to pounce with?--------she asked them, in an accusatory tone, if any of them had considered being with a black woman.

What difference does it make whether the actors are black or white?

And indeed, if there had been three hunky black actors on there, I bet she wouldn't have asked such a stupid racist question!
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Uninvited Writerposted 13 years ago
Asking such a question is not racist. What does an "accusatory tone" sound like?

And I think soap operas should mix race lines more often. There was a huge outcry about the Young and the Restless having a mixed race couple. Of course, it's got nothing to do with the actors, they don't have a choice.
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  Brenda Durhamposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Of course her question was racist!
  And hugely rude.
  I don't understand why Whoopie isn't fired already.
  She had the nerve to take up for that guy (what's his name...Roman Polanski??) who raped an underage girl.
  
  Could it be (gulp) that the producers are afraid to fire Whoopie 'cause she's ...black?? I think so.
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Uninvited Writerposted 13 years ago
By the way, what did Colin Powell do or say that was racist?
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  Brenda Durhamposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  He caved in to his racism the day he came out of his liberal pretend-Republican closet and backed Barack Obama publicly.
  
  No self-respecting Republican (or patriotic American) would've played that game, thereby sealing the Presidency with his defection.
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  Ron Montgomeryposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Self-respecting Republican is an oxymoron. No one with an ounce of self-esteem can hate so many people.
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  Brenda Durhamposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Are you referring to Republicans as haters? Or what?
  
  Anyway, I think the people who HAVE too much self-esteem are the haters.
  
  They love no one but themselves. They don't love God because it would detract from their view of themselves.
  They don't love other people because they only think of themselves.
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Arthur Fontesposted 13 years ago
Racism: Does anyone think the thousands of fans that attend Atlanta Braves games going through the tomahawk chop through the entire game Racist.

How about still calling your team the Braves just a little Racist.

Could you imagine the Detroit nah I am not even going to say it.
It would be below me.
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  Uninvited Writerposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Things like that are not racism. They may be insensitive, but not racist
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Arthur Fontesposted 13 years ago
Ron Montgomery I agree like most of their episodes the South Park guys make a good point.
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  Ron Montgomeryposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  And needle some people who really deserve it. (sort of like a hubber I know)
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Brenda Durhamposted 13 years ago
By the way,
Whoopie may be a racist black woman,
but Joy Behar is a mean nasty white woman.
It would be nice if they fired both of 'em.
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Uninvited Writerposted 13 years ago
I don't watch the View, can't stand that they all talk at once. Why not fire Elizabeth too? I say, fire the bunch of them...
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  Brenda Durhamposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Elizabeth is.....too soft.
  
  Oh, hey, why not??---fire 'em all. haha
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  Ron Montgomeryposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Are you two gonna sing koom ba ya now?
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  Brenda Durhamposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  LOL
  that'll be the day. Right, uninvited writer?!
  haha
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  Uninvited Writerposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I was going to post Joan Baez singing it but I thought that might upset you
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  Brenda Durhamposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Depends on which song.
  
  She had one that I really liked....can't think of the name of it right now...
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  Ron Montgomeryposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I remember the lyrics though not the title:
  
  If I had a hammer...
  
  I'd hammer me some lib er als
  
  I'd hammer me some commies
  
  All over this land
  
  I'd hammer some unions
  
  I'd hammer socialists
  
  I'd hammer in love between
  
  My brothers and my sisters
  
  although not brothers and brothers
  
  or sisters and sisters
  
  because the bible says it's an abomination.....
  
  All over this laaa aaaa aaand!
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  PrettyPantherposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Is it possible to be in love with a football helmet, cuz I think I am!
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  Brenda Durhamposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  You're very talented.
  
  Where's a winky smiley thingy when I need one?.....
  I dunno how to do those....
  
  NO that's not the song. haha
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Denno66posted 13 years ago
I feel like hugging a tree.
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  Brenda Durhamposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I can go in my back yard and hug a tree about any ol' day.....
  
  Does it evoke some particular feeling in you?
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  Denno66posted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Yeah a rough, barky texture.
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Denno66posted 13 years ago
Easy to be hard? Nope. Sung in Hair, but not her, Three Dog Night too.
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  Brenda Durhamposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  lol
  That's the other thread mister.
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  Denno66posted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Yeah, that one slowed down way to much, though.
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Brenda Durhamposted 13 years ago
I love Three Dog Night.
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  Denno66posted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Their music is absolutely timeless.
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  PrettyPantherposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  You must really like this one:
  
  Black and White
  
  The ink is black
  The page is white
  Together we learn to read and write
  The child is black
  The child is white
  The whole world looks upon the sight
  The beautiful sight
  
  And now a child can understand
  That this is the law of all the land
  All the land
  
  The world is black
  The world is white
  It turns by day and then by night
  The child is black
  The child is white
  Together they grow to see the light
  To see the light
  
  And now at last we plainly see
  We'll have a dance of liberty
  The world is black
  The world is white
  It turns by day and then by night
  The child is black
  The child is white
  The whole world looks upon the sight
  The beautiful sight
  
  The world is black
  The world is white
  Tt turns by day and the by night
  The child id black
  The child is white
  Together they grow to see the light
  To see the light
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Brenda Durhamposted 13 years ago
Yes, that's a favorite one of mine.
Good song.
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Denno66posted 13 years ago
George Orwell just finished grilling some Filet Mignons, anyone hungry?
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  lorlie6posted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Who's for lamb?
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  Denno66posted 13 years agoin reply to this
  You're awful.
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  Love some!
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Denno66posted 13 years ago
I'm just saying that the next Administration is going to have its slew of detractors, and so on and so on......
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Randy Godwinposted 13 years ago
I was in high school when the first two black students entered the building. Everything became quiet as everyone stood in front of their home room watching. I was so afraid they would be harmed by the students as they walked down the hall. Yes, the N word was hissed at them, but they held their heads high. They were dressed in white shirts with ties as if it were Sunday.

I can't imagine how frightened they were or how they slept the night before. The black schools here were terrible. Second hand books and school equipment the white schools no longer needed. No black person worked at anything other than as a janitor or maid. Many worked in tobacco fields for little money.

So, to the person who suggested integration did not do much good, You have not seen the things I have or you would reconsider your words. Or perhaps you do not care, either way, you are wrong.
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  Brenda Durhamposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I'm not really interested in what you've seen, because I've seen or heard from reliable others just as much myself.
  
  Let me say this-----the teachers and other administrators, knowing the volatility of the situation, should've been very watchful and punished those kids who hissed the "N" word. THAT is what the agenda should've been-----teaching kids (on both "sides") right from wrong; NOT FORCING them to enter into a volatile situation such as came from bussing kids into different schools.
  And I daresay the same decency and respect should've been taught to the black children as well.
  It isn't that I "don't care", at all! It's that it's clear to me that one cannot be forced to like someone! Nor should they be! They CAN be forced to respect humans as humans, however. THAT's the discipline that should've occurred, not the legalistic hogwash that was pulled on both blacks and whites.
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  Randy Godwinposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I have no doubt as to your lack of interest in my experiences. I also have no doubt as to your lack of knowledge concerning how white children down here were taught in respect to black people in general.
  
  I think most here get your message. It is as old as time.
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  Brenda Durhamposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  As is your own opinion.
  
  I know one thing for sure, and that is how I was taught! I was taught that it doesn't matter whether someone is black or white; it only matters what kind of person they are.
  And that is what I still believe today.
  
  So you can take your insinuations and.....shove 'em back into your own biased little mind.
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  Randy Godwinposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Spoken by a true Christian!
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  Brenda Durhamposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Very true.
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  Randy Godwinposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  You sound like you are from the bible belt. North Carolina I would guess.
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  Brenda Durhamposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Ky actually, and the Ky "hills" actually, and purty dern glad of it. ha
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  Randy Godwinposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Dang it! I always get those two accents mixed up.
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  Manly Manposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Nothing like a little K-Y!
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  Brenda Durhamposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Manly Man, your pants must be shrinking....
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  Ron Montgomeryposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Are you familiar with a town in the hills called "Yosemite"?
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  Brenda Durhamposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Yes indeed.
  Do you know of it personally?
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  Ron Montgomeryposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Yes, I had an employee who was from there. She had a family emergency and no way to get home, so I took her. The town was pronounced Yo' za mite instead of yo sem' i tee.
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  Brenda Durhamposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Well, there might be other towns named Yosemite too; I dunno.
  
  We pronounced it Yo se mite.
  
  I remember visiting there pretty often in my childhood, since it wasn't far from where I grew up.
  I remember going to the little store there, where (if they had a little extra money), my parents would buy us a soda. Sodas were something rare for us back then. But hey they only cost...I forget.....maybe 10 cents or something....
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sooner than laterposted 13 years ago
Hangings are not unique just to blacks either.
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Denno66posted 13 years ago
And now a word from our sponsors.....
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sooner than laterposted 13 years ago
you can search photos of pres bush hanging as well.
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livelongerposted 13 years ago
Randy: There's a difference between Christians and "Christianists."
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  Randy Godwinposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I know, LiveLonger. Sometimes my sarcasm isn't too apparent to the sarcasee. LOL
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sooner than laterposted 13 years ago
explain
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  livelongerposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Why, when Google can do the job quite nicely?
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Brenda Durhamposted 13 years ago
Ya know, those Ky hills from whence people come who are these days often labeled "ignorant" and "prejudiced" and other things!
Which are indeed false accusations in general.

I've found that prejudice and hatred isn't confined to any one group of people nor any specific area of this nation nor the world.

It's a thing that's either in your heart or not in your heart to love your fellow man no matter the color of his skin or the amount of money he makes or their situation in life.

Me, specifically.....I don't LIKE a lot of people, because of either their views or their actions, or simply personal preference, but I was taught to Love the soul of each person on earth. That, too, is a product that comes not only through the more educated and the richer, but through simple humanity, whether it's taught in a one-room schoolhouse in an all-white neighborhood, or in a "diverse" situation.
Which is simply more proof that forced desegregation isn't the answer, and only caused worse problems.
Because no one can be forced to "like" someone, as I said, especially when that forcing is simply for the sake of forcing, and also places people into even another set of "groups"........one, a guilt-tripping-non-genuine one, the other, a retaliation/vengeance-filled one. Neither is good.
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  livelongerposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Agreed. It certainly isn't rare at all among those who boast about being "real Americans" and "Christian" all the time. In my experience, if anything it's far more common among these people.
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  Brenda Durhamposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  (sigh) are you referring to me?
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  livelongerposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  There is a large number of elitists who loudly claim to be Christian (but act like Pharisees more than Christians) and "real American" but disrespect the American tradition to respect differences. Those are the people I'm talking about; I have no idea if you're one of them or not.
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  Mitch Rappposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I don't expect anyone to respect my views, if someone disagrees with me I fully expect to hear about it. That, too me is American.
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  livelongerposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Agreed.
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  sooner than laterposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  easy now tiger. I have seen some pretty harsh words spoken out of many 'elitist' groups. Some have standards to uphold. Some pretend that they are better than everyone and don't need standards.
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  sneakorocksolidposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Euro-American! If we don't agree with you we're hater-bigot-homophobes. The only way you would accept us is if we denounce God, support gay rights and kiss a tree. "Live" it's time to get a life sweetie.
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habeeposted 13 years ago
Ugh. this just had to happen in GA, didn't it. Kinda makes me ashamed to claim it as my home state. I think it was a horrible thing to do, just like I thought it was horrible when it was done to Palin. Of course, a lot of people didn't find that too offensive.

I'll state right now, I am not racist. Ask any student I've ever taught. The thing I often find amusing is that it often seems the ones who yell loudest about equality are whites who like the "idea" of equality, but not the reality of it. How many black friends do you have? How often have you had them in your home? Shared a hotel room with them? Gone out to lunch with them? Gone to parties with a member of another race?
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mel22posted 13 years ago
It happens to white republican women too. While it may be racist it could also be about the bad economy and times we live in.
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  Brenda Durhamposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Cool. Thanks for posting this. I remembered the incident being reported by the News, but didn't have access to posting that. I'm glad someone did; very relevant to this thread subject.
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  livelongerposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I am no Palin lover at all, by any means, but I think this is disgusting. You can say whatever you want about this politician, but to threaten violence is really awful.
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  I happen to Like Palin but I don't see a threat of violence.
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