Turnabout is fair play.

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  1. Barefootfae profile image61
    Barefootfaeposted 8 years ago

    http://cnsnews.com/blog/gregory-gwyn-wi … cies-areas


    Now manufacturers are refusing to sell restricted firearms not only to citizens, but govt. agencies as well.
    Fair is fair right?

    1. Josak profile image59
      Josakposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      HAHAHAH! NO
      By that logic individuals should be allowed to try, convict and jail people or own nuclear weapons, it's utterly insane, not that it matters anyway in this case I gurantee the government agencies will have no trouble buying the weapons from somewhere.

      1. innersmiff profile image67
        innersmiffposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        "By that logic individuals should be allowed to try, convict and jail people or own nuclear weapons . . ."

        I wouldn't have a problem with this.

        1. Josak profile image59
          Josakposted 8 years agoin reply to this

          In which case you are utterly nuts.

          It's bad eneough that there are people who want to kill innocents with a gun let alone the destruction that would be causeed by a nuclear weapon.

          People trying other individuals without any democratic choice on what the law is would simply become the mayhem of people jailing those they don't like and prisoner abuse etc.

          complete lunacy.

          1. innersmiff profile image67
            innersmiffposted 8 years agoin reply to this

            That incredible destruction is a very good incentive not to use nuclear weapons. Nukes did not arise from the free market but from governments, and governments are the only entities that want to use them. It's the military protection that grants the individuals who ordered the nukes from afar safety enough to do it. Even then, there has been only one nuclear attack. Even governments are hesitant to use them despite the protection. In real life, people will not want them.

            What I am talking about is private courts that answer to the individuals that voluntarily contribute to it (as part of the street-owner's contract, maybe). They would in fact be more accountable to the people than government courts as individuals only need to withdraw their funds if the court is not fair. No doubt you'll say that big corporations will buy them out. Maybe, but the court's survival still rests on the user's willingness to contribute to it. If government courts get corrupted, there's nothing we can do about it.

            1. John Holden profile image61
              John Holdenposted 8 years agoin reply to this

              So which of Hiroshima and Nagasaki wasn't a nuclear attack?

              They happened on two separate days so hardly can be described as one attack. The second long enough after the first for the perpetrators to understand the full horror of what they had done.

              1. Barefootfae profile image61
                Barefootfaeposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                What would you have done John?

                1. John Holden profile image61
                  John Holdenposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                  Irrelevant, whatever I would have done wouldn't have any affect whatsoever on whether it was one attack or in fact two.

                  1. Barefootfae profile image61
                    Barefootfaeposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                    No,no,no....it's not going to be that easy.

                    You said something there about perpetrators or some such.
                    What would you have done with Japan?
                    It's far from irrelevant it apparently speaks to your belief that although we were attacked we were supposed to bend over, kiss our butts, and just let them all roll right over us, evil that we are.

              2. innersmiff profile image67
                innersmiffposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                All right, if you're going to be pedantic about it - two attacks. We haven't seen one since, but we're still in a state of paralysing fear about being attacked.

                1. innersmiff profile image67
                  innersmiffposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                  The only non-governmental institutions with the resources to get a nuke would be massive corporations. Imagine Microsoft building nukes. That would be a smart move . . .

                  1. John Holden profile image61
                    John Holdenposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                    You don't understand, non-governmental institutions have all the resources of government at their disposal.

                2. John Holden profile image61
                  John Holdenposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                  Yes, it suits the government (in the form of corporations) to keep us in a world of fear, we are far less likely to see the junk that is being thrown at us from our own if we believe it is being done so to protect us from evil forces.

              3. Barefootfae profile image61
                Barefootfaeposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                Ok...once again.
                Here is your statement. God forbid a nation defend themselves and try to end the attempt of another nation......whose Emperor proclaimed himself God....to subjugate the human race.

                What do you think should have been done.

                1. John Holden profile image61
                  John Holdenposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                  I might be wrong but I have no memory of ever writing that and it certainly doesn't match my "tone of voice" but I may be wrong.

                  1. Barefootfae profile image61
                    Barefootfaeposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                    Look at what I posted and your quote I am referring to is there.
                    You squirm around and try to change things when you don't want to answer a question.
                    It was about Hiroshima dn Nagasaki and you were talking about the perpetrators(US) should have been horrified by the first bomb. Problem was Japan didn't get the message, not us.

              4. Barefootfae profile image61
                Barefootfaeposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                Read above.

                1. John Holden profile image61
                  John Holdenposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                  How do you get to "God forbid a nation defend themselves and try to end the attempt of another nation......whose Emperor proclaimed himself God....to subjugate the human race." from what I actually wrote?

                  1. Barefootfae profile image61
                    Barefootfaeposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                    "The second long enough after the first for the perpetrators to understand the full horror of what they had done."

                    That's the last part of your statement.
                    Obviously you believe the second should have never been dropped.....well either of them.
                    My question was what would have been your solution to resolve the situation?

    2. John Holden profile image61
      John Holdenposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      It's a shame that your fellow countrymen are not so keen on upholding the first, fourth, fifth and sixth amendments as well! Where they to do so there might be less need to fight for the second.

  2. innersmiff profile image67
    innersmiffposted 8 years ago

    Absolutely! But it's always been one rule for us, another for them. That's what government is all about.

    1. profile image0
      Old Poolmanposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      There lies the rub.  It is a "Do as I say, not as I do" mentality that is making us nuts.

  3. psycheskinner profile image85
    psycheskinnerposted 8 years ago

    If they want to turn away the business, that is up to them.  European makers will be happy to take the contract.

  4. profile image55
    whoisitposted 8 years ago

    Peggy Noonan said it best.

    "It is always cliffs, ceilings and looming catastrophes with Barack Obama. It is always government by freakout. "

  5. profile image55
    whoisitposted 8 years ago

    Isoroku Yamamoto said
    "I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve."

    That is exactly what they did!

  6. Barefootfae profile image61
    Barefootfaeposted 8 years ago

    Now that we have gotten all off topic which I suspect was intentional, I hail the manufacturers who want to keep things real.

 
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