Domestic drones flying here right now ?

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   ahorsebackposted 12 years ago

   I must say , I just googled  domestic drones , and I now advise every American to do the same thing !  I am no conspiracy theory  nut but......  It's a little scary just  how much they are already being used ! Police , firefighters ,  animal rights , corporate America , arial surveying , mapping , photography ,  These things are being used NOW , HERE  and for about every reason under the sun .  I am talking about micro sized  drones  and the probable  invasion of privacy by ANYONE for any reason , right now ! What do you think?

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      Sarra Garrettposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Hi ahorseback.  The drones have been flying around here for several years now.  They can be as small as a dragonfly and can literally 'look' inside your house walls like superman.  So you can be sittin on the hopper and Uncle Sam will be taking pictures of you.  It's a sad state of affairs that we have here in America now.  Nothing is sacred anymore and everything is slowly being taken away.  I would definately promote having a 'bug out' bag full of ammo and survival supplies.  The Chinese and Russian armies are already here in the country with a large portion of them located in central Florida.   NYPD is already holding people outside of apartment buildings until someone inside the building ID's them.  It's all part of deprogramming.

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      Old Poolmanposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      A few years ago, I would have loudly disagreed with you.  Now, I'm not so sure.  It kind of started with all the red light cams and other traffic cams, extended on to store security cams, and now to drones flying freely over our homes.  There really are very few places now that we are not being recorded on someone's camera.
      Some were intended to serve a purpose that would be a benefit to all of us, others, I'm not so sure.

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         wildernessposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         The govt. has long had the ability to "spy" on you any time they desired to do so, and while drones make it a little easier and cheaper nothing has really changed.

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      Dale Hydeposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Actually old news. Google some more. We do benefit from what many of these drones do. Not sure what your idea of "micro" is, but most drones are far from "micro"...they are not like nanobots, lol.

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   psycheskinnerposted 12 years ago

   OMG using drones to make maps! Um, actually that kind of thing seems fine to me.  It's just a tool.

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      Old Poolmanposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Used properly it is a tool.
      Using a gun to put food on the table makes it a tool.  Using a gun to kill other people makes it a weapon.
      Most things can be used for both good and evil, it depends on whom is using them.

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         psycheskinnerposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         My point being that OP is amazed it is used at all.  Using it for mapping seems like an obviously good idea.

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            Old Poolmanposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            psycheskinner - Not sure what made you think I am amazed it is used at all.  My point is that most things that can be used for good can also be used against us.  That is all I was saying.

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            ahorsebackposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            I'm not talking about the drones we saw in Iran , Afganistan , I'm taling about the smaller , more secretive , police , Fish and game , DEA. ,  You can even purchase the services of a drone with a camera to view anything , anyone you want !  Five thousand dollars puts you in the air !

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               wildernessposted 12 years agoin reply to this

               Five thousand?!  A hundred dollars will buy an RC plane and another hundred a nifty little recording camera.
               
               I've got the plane, my son has a helmet cam that is tiny and would mount on my plane quite handily - want to hire us to spy on your neighbor?

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   Gypsy Rose Leeposted 12 years ago

   Scary and spooky and totally off the wall. Don't know what's happening here right now but I know that can you imagine? it is advised to keep your mobile phone shut off in the house because even if you aren't using it someone? something? can still here your conversations!!! It's true!!! Won't discuss the regular phone cause it's known everything is recorded. When they rebuilt hotels here after the time of occupation you should of seen the gadgets they removed from the walls and objects lol Enough to fill a spy museum. So now as technology as gone on and been improved things haven't become better they've become worse.

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   cleaner3posted 12 years ago

   whenever the Govt. wants to digusie something that would scare the bejeezus out of the people they call it (the law being passed ) something completly opposite.
   Lets see.... The Patriot Act.... which was suppossed to protect us from terrorists, actually diminishes our rights and take away some of our freedoms through fear tactics.  It gives the Govt. the right to listen to any conversations or detain any american indefinitly with out due process.ie; a warrant or the right to see a judge.
   The Affordable Care Act... (Obamacare ).. actually gives the Govt to tax our health care under the assumption that they are bringing down costs by providing the people who need health care insurance a free market to buy it ... when they could not afford it in the first place . The Govt makes it mandatory that all Americans will have to purchase something that they do not want  according to most polls ( 59%). Whenever the Govt passes a new law look at the title and you know that it is exactly the opposit of what the title is .!

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   Dr Billy Kiddposted 12 years ago

   Drones are great stuff to make conspiracy theories about. But you do not need a theory of make drones look a little scary. Just check out the facts:
   
   *There currently 83 operational drone bases in the U.S.
   *There is no protocol for reimbursment when a drone crashes into an airliner and hundreds of people die.
   *The U.S. military is perfecting a drone that will use a snipper rifle and knock people off from a half mile away--without the big bang and explosion created during the currenly drone executions.
   *The federal government offers subsidies to certain parties, like police forces, who want to establish drone bases.
   * Drones are being built and purchased by dozens of countries and organizations, including the mafia and drug cartels, thereby simplifying cross-border smuggling.
   * The U.S. has established a precident that if your country deems someone a threat you can use a drone to kill that person anywhere in the world--perhaps even kill the president of a country.
   * There is no law against a police unit in the U.S. using a drone to track you 24 hours a day--without a warrant.
   * The U.S. has killed, some experts say, about 2500 people using drones just in Pakistan alone (you dont have to wonder why 75% of the Pakistani's hate America).
   
   So, who needs a conspiracy theory about drone? The facts themselves are scary enough.

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      Education Answerposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      If you can be tracked by a drone without a warrant, doesn't that seem too invasive?  If the police repeatedly followed you, without due cause, you could easily file a complaint with the courts, for harassment.  When the police used a drone for the same purpose, you're just out of luck?  Something is wrong with that.

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         wildernessposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Really?  The police stake out your house, you don't see them (or do) and you can file a complaint for harassment?
         
         Good luck with that.

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   FatFreddysCatposted 12 years ago

   If the Government wants a picture of me takin' a dump, they're welcome to it. I hope it makes'em go blind.

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   Education Answerposted 12 years ago

   Drones are a tool.  Used for the proper purpose, there is nothing wrong with drones.  The problem is that the government can and does use drones without due cause.  Police, for example, would never be able to invade your privacy without a warrant.  Police drones would and could be used IF there was due cause.  I see little wrong with drones when used for a purpose and with due cause.  When the government flies drones over vast areas, in an attempt to spy on the populous, there's a problem with that.  Would the police search every home in a neighborhood, just because they could or because they suspected one household of a crime?  No.  That would never hold up in court.  The government doesn't have to abide by any rules, search warrants, or even have due cause.  That is precisely why it is wrong.  It is an invasion of privacy. 
   
   Now, some would say that satellites have been able to do this for years.  There is a difference.  Satellites largely see what is visible from above.  Drones can get different angles by flying in and filming through windows, for example.  That's simply too invasive.  Drones can be armed.  Thus, there is a significant difference between satellite photography and drone surveillance.  I liken this to the police, once again.  The police can look at your home, but they need due cause and a search warrant to enter your backyard and look through a window.  The government can simply fly a drone into your backyard, without any cause or search warrant.  This is a violation of search and seizure.

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      wildernessposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Police fly helicopters over homes, without cause, every day of the week.  Does it make a difference that the pilot is still on the ground?
      
      Actually, the hospital does too, crop dusters do, United airlines does as well.

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         Education Answerposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Do they fly helicopters into your backyard in an effort to get a better look inside your home?  There's the difference.  That should require a reason, due cause.

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            Sarra Garrettposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            They can get a perfect look inside your home from the air.

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               psycheskinnerposted 12 years agoin reply to this

               Only if you have really big skylights IMHO.

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            psycheskinnerposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            Is what is in the back yard really that private? Anyone with Google Earth can already see it.

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               Education Answerposted 12 years agoin reply to this

               I know people can already see it.  Should they?  I have nothing to hide, but I also don't like the government spying on me.  What's next, cameras in your own home?  I know that's an extreme statement, but I can't believe so many people are okay with drones simply because we are already being spied upon.

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            wildernessposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            How do you know they are looking inside?

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   Soul Man Walkerposted 12 years ago

   Ain't scared a drones.

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      Education Answerposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      I'm not scared of drones either.  I have nothing to hide.  My point isn't that I'm paranoid enough to think that the government would even waste time on me.  My point is that there is a problem when the governement has to spy on its own citizens.  That's just not right.  It sounds like something the Soviet Union would have done or something China does do.

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