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Even in Texas, the death penalty is reserved for those cases where a homicide was committed by the accused. With the exception of treason in time of war, the death penalty should not be bandied about or applied in a cavalier way. Outside of that anything else can be used to punish the rapist.
I'm fine with the death penalty, as long as it is a clear case of rape and not just an accusation or regret.
In that kind of rape, it's one of the most blatant disregards for civility, law, and personal rights that exists. A person that commits that kind of crime is completely incapable of participating in a law-based society.
So either kill them, or put them to work for the good of society. Something like forced labor on an asteroid would work. What we do now where millions of people who don't belong in society still leech off of it is completely irrational.
To maintain a safe society all criminals should receive a punishment that fits their crime, unfortunately there are those who seek to destroy the fabric of a safe society by using human rights laws to protect criminals.
At the very least the perpetrator of a proven rape should be chemically castrated, however this does raise the question of how do you deal with women who commit such offences, these are very few and far between but and there should be some equality in punishment.
I would disagree. Punishment, at least as we use it, is not much deterrent to most people. Incarceration should be used for protection of society, not as a punishment, as should the death penalty.
Disagree with what? That the perpetrator of a crime should receive a punishment?
I agree that for the safety of society the mad dogs need to be locked up or destroyed.
Overall, yes. For a punishment to be effective it must be "cruel and unusual"; something we don't do. So better to forget punishment at all, and simply remove those people that cannot live in our society without hurting others from that society.
Im referring to castration. If the weapon is removed, the crime cannot be committed to the same extreme again. I also think it would provide motivation to refrain more than the threat of prison alone.
But try and get the liberal thinking human rights loons to agree.
Really? It's a liberal/conservative thing? I thought it was a "let's protect our wives, mothers and children" kinda thing. I don't comment on many things like this, but I have always thought removal of the weapon is a pretty simple solution.
How would you equalize punishment for men and women in this situation then Beth?
Ugh, I so hate this subject. I understand that ppl are sick, I do. They need help to get well, but many don't want help. I spose imprisonment with actual therapy, and if released a way to identify that someone is an offender. What a sad and awful world though. My heart goes out to someone who would want to get well... but the act of forced penetration is just so cruel. I don't know... the whole thing is depressing and painful and real ppl are living it out while we sit and speculate.
Would you remove the tool (hand) used in a theft or beating?
Not that I would necessarily disagree, but how far would you go? Or should we simply remove the tool (brain) that directs the other tools?
Uh... no. I wouldn't. However which would cry for a greater reaction from authorities? If a man stole your daughter's purse or if he held a knife to her throat, threatened to kill her, spread her legs, forced his member into her, with great pain, and released his possibly diseased semen into her body? Rape is not equal to theft.
Tell that to the elderly woman that has had her SS check stolen and is without groceries for the next month. Tell it to those people that have had their entire retirement savings disappear through fraud, leaving them destitute for the rest of their lives. Tell it to those people more recently that have had their homes illegally taken from them.
Tell it to the person (man OR woman) that has a fractured skull or is in a coma from a beating. In the specific matter of the rape in the OP, what you refer to was the minor part of it - that the raped woman later died was due to the extreme violence committed and was nothing that a prior castration would have stopped - I would lay long odds that the animals that killed her have a history of violence; violence that should have been stopped long ago.
All I can tell you is that a man wrote that post. You do not understand. If you asked a 70 year old woman if she'd rather lose her home and have to find a new way to live or be brutally raped, I can tell you what she would say.
Sorry, but you do not speak for all women no matter how much you believe you do.
Perhaps I don't, but...the "brutally" modifier you used says it all to me. We're both talking about extreme violence here, just as the OP was, in spite of the fact you seem wound up with the word "rape".
So remove the offending "tool" - you won't get any argument form me. Just make sure that the other "tools" used to commit crimes that are just as egregious are also removed (you still won't get any argument form me).
All rape is brutal.
Although possibly statutory rape, Im sure there could be situations of consent that would not be considered brutal. That's a whole new subject isn't it?
Yes it is a different subject, and not a subject I care to discuss. I find that the topic itself seems to drive any reason out of some people, to the point that comments just don't make sense.
Like the one that "All rape is brutal". You mention statutory rape, I would add rape of a drunken or drugged man or woman too far gone to say "No". Or a mentally handicapped person. All are punishable offenses (as they probably should be) - none are "brutal", or at least what I associate with that term.
The subject just seems too emotion laden for some to discuss rationally. If you equate getting a man or woman drunk to the point they accept sexual advances they otherwise would not to mugging a 70 year old woman, stealing her total income for the month and putting her in the hospital, well, I just can't see it. Nor do I find it productive to discuss or debate the matter.
Now you want to discuss a reasonable punishment for the crime referenced by the OP I still won't agree to castration. Execution is the only thing reasonable in such a case - removing the "tool" will provide society with no protection at all against further violence.
I agree with the idea of castration for males and possibly removing the clitoris for females. If not that then simply put REAL rapist to death.
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