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Another left wing nut goes on a shooting spree

  1. Onusonus profile image87
    Onusonusposted 3 years ago

    So the kid in the Colorado school stopped shooting after only two minutes. Why? Because there was an armed guard in the school who backed him in a corner. Imagine that. When good guys have guns, they stop bad guys.
    And why isn't this news worthy? Because he wasn't carrying a semiautomatic weapon. And try as you may you can't deny that the kid was a socialist.

    1. John Holden profile image62
      John Holdenposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      Can neither agree nor deny that the kid was a socialist as you provide absolutely no evidence either way.

    2. psycheskinner profile image81
      psycheskinnerposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      Except at Columbine where there was armed security and it didn't stop anything.

      1. Onusonus profile image87
        Onusonusposted 3 years ago in reply to this

        Oh you mean the policeman who wasn't wearing his glasses and couldn't hit the broad side of a barn?

        1. psycheskinner profile image81
          psycheskinnerposted 3 years ago in reply to this

          Your assertion is that "good guy" + "gun" = safe school. 

          I am showing that this formula is inadequate.

          1. Onusonus profile image87
            Onusonusposted 3 years ago in reply to this

            I understand what you are trying to say, however the idea that a gun free zone is safer than any other place is ludicrous. In fact it's exactly the opposite.
            Using the most extreme situation to illustrate your point negates the fact that in most cases school shootings are not well thought out and elaborate schemes to commit mass murder like that of the Columbine massacre.
            In the grand scheme Harris and Klebold really had more terrible designs than what they ultimately carried out. Their grander plan was to detonate propane bombs to blow up the entire school and drive the body count into the hundreds.
            The data shows that these kids were planning this as early as 1997, and despite the overwhelming evidence Jefferson county officials possessed in the months previous to the attack, they still did nothing. And no shooting since has been comparable to the planning and organizing that went into that incident.
            It's like comparing the shoe bomber to the 9/11 attacks.

            1. Paul Wingert profile image78
              Paul Wingertposted 3 years ago in reply to this

              Blah, blah, blah, blah! More conservative BS!

  2. EncephaloiDead profile image62
    EncephaloiDeadposted 3 years ago

    The report says the shooter went into the school to shoot a particular person who had earlier kicked the shooter off the debate team. That person escaped unharmed, but the shooter somehow accidentally shot someone else before pulling the gun on himself.

    1. John Holden profile image62
      John Holdenposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      Definitely a socialist then.

      1. Onusonus profile image87
        Onusonusposted 3 years ago in reply to this

        What's interesting is that the Denver Post originally reported that the kid was a "very opinionated socialist" according to classmates, and later erased the word socialist. Their reason?

        "We decided not to have another student apply a label to the shooter -- a label the student likely didn't even understand"

        Plus it didn't fit the mainstream medias narrative of crazy violent people being typically right wing.

  3. WillStarr profile image88
    WillStarrposted 3 years ago

    He was a socialist and very vocal about it:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jL5jg3nNutc

    1. Paul Wingert profile image78
      Paul Wingertposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      So?

      1. WillStarr profile image88
        WillStarrposted 3 years ago in reply to this

        So another socialist doubted it and we provided the proof. You obviously have not bothered to acquaint yourself with the thread.

  4. WillStarr profile image88
    WillStarrposted 3 years ago

    Quite a few of the shooters have been on the far left...the Tucson shooter, the Virginia Tech shooter, the Aurora shooter, and now this guy. The Columbine shooters both came from very liberal families.

    1. wilderness profile image95
      wildernessposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      Is there anyone that really believes insanity runs along political party lines?

      1. tsadjatko profile image89
        tsadjatkoposted 3 years ago in reply to this

        Well liberalism isn't a party - it is a disease http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YiR9idbw5c

        http://s1.hubimg.com/u/8584672_f248.jpg

        1. wilderness profile image95
          wildernessposted 3 years ago in reply to this

          Shh! 

          While it may indeed be a disease, it is neither polite nor PC to say so out loud.

      2. profile image82
        Education Answerposted 3 years ago in reply to this

        Some liberals say that these tragedies are often caused by extremist gun nuts who are conservative, so yeah, I think some people believe that insanity does run along political lines.  I believe, though I might be wrong, that these examples illustrate a greater reality, that murderers reside in all ends of the political spectrum.

        1. wilderness profile image95
          wildernessposted 3 years ago in reply to this

          While most "extremist gun nuts" probably do classify themselves as conservative, I would take great exception to the idea that they are the ones losing it and becoming common killers.

          The typical "gun nut", seems to me, is far more likely to be a quiet collector that would not harm anyone for anything.  Of course, I don't see that owning a gun or two makes one an "extremist gun nut" in the first place; that is a liberal label from someone with an agenda, an axe to grind, and that is more interested in raising emotions than in providing information.

  5. tsadjatko profile image89
    tsadjatkoposted 3 years ago

    And if I was polite or PC I wouldn't but I'm not (always) polite and never PC. :-)

  6. WillStarr profile image88
    WillStarrposted 3 years ago

    “'The Anarchist Cookbook' was written by William Powell, another liberal. Bill Ayers, a far left Marxist, is an unabashed and unapologetic terrorist to this day.

    1. tsadjatko profile image89
      tsadjatkoposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      Sounds like they have healthy minds. I expect every father hopes their kids can aspire to such goals!

    2. Onusonus profile image87
      Onusonusposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      I heard Ayers actually teaches at a school these days.

      1. tsadjatko profile image89
        tsadjatkoposted 3 years ago in reply to this

        http://s1.hubimg.com/u/8585028_f248.jpg
        Finally, the truth comes out.
        Obama’s biography was written by an unrepentant Marxist terrorist.
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofxJtwQV4IY

  7. MelissaBarrett profile image60
    MelissaBarrettposted 3 years ago

    I'm curious, why when a crazy Christian goes on a shooting spree in Norway, he wasn't a real Christian... yet a crazy socialist is now representative of every socialist ever?

    1. Onusonus profile image87
      Onusonusposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      Well you see, although I must point out that nobody has made that accusation today, I would say that it is clearly against Christian doctrine to go on murdering sprees. Where as with socialism it is part of the curriculum to rid society of undesirables.
      But don't take it from me. Let's have a listen to what world renowned Fabian Socialist George Barnard Shaw had to say about it...
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-Ljkoh_vmE

      1. tsadjatko profile image89
        tsadjatkoposted 3 years ago in reply to this

        Exactly, authentic Christianity does not espouse such heinous and immoral acts! If you were really curious there is the answer which you could have easily found if you were really curious! If someone were not just really curious why would they want to equate the two?

        1. MelissaBarrett profile image60
          MelissaBarrettposted 3 years ago in reply to this

          Yep, there are no Christians Socialists, of course.

          1. tsadjatko profile image89
            tsadjatkoposted 3 years ago in reply to this

            The Bible isn’t an economics textbook, but I and many other Christians believe its underlying principles are most consistent with the free economy, not socialism and certainly not with Marxist socialism so throwing around labels is meaningless unless you define the labels. Even so called Christian Socialists don't ascribe to the philosophy of secular socialists.

            1. Zelkiiro profile image84
              Zelkiiroposted 3 years ago in reply to this

              Yes, because Jesus never ever said to give up all your worldly possessions, free yourself from material desires and concerns, feed the poor, and obey the laws of the land no matter what they are.

              That would just be silly.

              1. tsadjatko profile image89
                tsadjatkoposted 3 years ago in reply to this

                You never fail to impress us with your total ignorance - Jesus never told everyone to give up all their worldly possessions and if you had studied scripture you'd know he said that to one person because Jesus knew he was so attached to his worldly possessions they were more important to him than following his savior. Jesus never said to free yourself from material desires either, he just said not to put the material above the spiritual. What he said was "Keep your life free from love of money, and be content with what you have, for he has said, “I will never leave you nor forsake you.”
                All people like Zelkiiro know how to do is twist anything that is said to try and fit it into their sick view without any intellectual honesty. That's what happens when you fry your mind with Wikipedia speak and propaganda Youtube videos instead of actually studying to be approved. Jesus certainly never said to give your rights and your freedom over to the state which is what Z thinks is utopia but has been proven throughout history to be evil and a total failure. His idea of feeding the poor is to make everyone poor and equally miserable.

      2. MelissaBarrett profile image60
        MelissaBarrettposted 3 years ago in reply to this

        Did you just excuse a claim of a shooter being representative of all Socialists by linking a clip of another person you claim is also representative of all Socialists?

        I mean if that's how you think, that's on you. Just pointing it out.

        1. Onusonus profile image87
          Onusonusposted 3 years ago in reply to this

          No, the kid was a crazy homicidal kid, and nothing more. He had no status in the socialist arena, therefore does not represent socialists. Which is why I pointed out a prominent socialist monster, to illustrate the fact that followers like Karl Pierson get their cues from their heroes. Namely left wing lunatics like William Powell, Saul Alynski, George Shaw, Bill Ayers, etc...

          Christians also, adjust their behavior according to the influence of their leaders. However they are typically nonviolent people like Joel Olstene, Billy Graham, The Pope, Pat Robertson, etc...

          1. MelissaBarrett profile image60
            MelissaBarrettposted 3 years ago in reply to this

            You forgot Jesus. Because frankly, If I had to adjust my behavior to that of Joel Olstene, Billy Graham and particularly Pat Robertson, I'd become violent fairly rapidly.

            I kinda like this Pope Francis though.

            But yeah, still think Christians should be led by Christ.  Maybe that's where our misunderstandings lie?

            1. Onusonus profile image87
              Onusonusposted 3 years ago in reply to this

              Ah yes, the pretended violent rhetoric of modern day Christians versus the actual violent rhetoric of the left. liberal logic never ceases to amaze me. Because listening to Joel Osteen really gets people to want to strap bombs to their chests.

              By the way following Jesus of course, is a given for any Christian.

              1. MelissaBarrett profile image60
                MelissaBarrettposted 3 years ago in reply to this

                Actually, it might not make me want to blow others up, but it would likely make me want to blow myself up... especially if I thought I was following his leadership. But hey, if you want to believe that financial success is a reward from God for living a good life, once again... have at it.

                If following Jesus was what any Christian did, then I don't think we'd be having this conversation. I think Jesus would be more concerned about the dead and the families than advancing a political viewpoint using coffins as soap-boxes. But that's just my understanding of him.

                1. Onusonus profile image87
                  Onusonusposted 3 years ago in reply to this

                  Well I don't think we will ever stop seeing liberals standing on coffins when the opportunity comes for the power grab.

                  1. MelissaBarrett profile image60
                    MelissaBarrettposted 3 years ago in reply to this

                    So if you can't beat 'em, join 'em?

                    What's the difference again?

                    If you dislike their behavior so much, why are you emulating it?

              2. Zelkiiro profile image84
                Zelkiiroposted 3 years ago in reply to this

                You do realize that radical Muslims occupy the far right, right?

                You have to keep your crazies straight. The left wing has anarchists and communists at the far end, and the right wing has fascists and religious fundamentalists on their far end.

    2. WillStarr profile image88
      WillStarrposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      A straw man. No one made any such argument.

      1. MelissaBarrett profile image60
        MelissaBarrettposted 3 years ago in reply to this

        Not a strawman... a memory. I remember the thread. Wasn't making an argument, just an observation.

 
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