A Quiet Revolution in High Schools and Colleges

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  1. colorfulone profile image76
    colorfuloneposted 8 years ago

    I came across this article on Facebook. 

    Millennials can’t help it

    Many of us shake our heads at how young people can possible have the worldview they have, one evidenced by their support of Socialists. It is not their fault. It is the fault of the curriculum they are taught in our public schools. Case in point, the most commonly taught ‘history’ book in America’s high schools was written by the Master of Deceit, Howard Zinn, ‘A People’s History of the United States,’ which is pure Marxist propaganda written by an Atheist Communist.

    The book is full of lies written to bolster Leftist Ideology. Zinn admitted he wrote not to chronicle the past but to further his own social aims, and those of his fellow travelers. He conceded that the book “is a biased account. I am not troubled by that.” In his own words: “I wanted history and my teaching of history to be part of social struggle.” Many celebrities and professors fawn over the book, like it is their Bible. The New York Times declared (when it came out in 1980) that it should be ‘required reading’ for American students—and so it is.

    More striking than the gross inaccuracies, are the intentional omissions. Washington’s Farewell Address, Lincoln’s Gettysburg Address, and Reagan’s speech at the Brandenburg Gate are excluded. No mention is made of America leading the world in inventions by a country mile, such as the first walk on the moon. Not included are Alexander Graham Bell, the Wright Brothers, and Jonas Salk but we do learn about Joan Baez, the Berrigan Brothers, and Speckled Snake. Left out are the great American success stories such as Alexander Hamilton, John Jacob Astor, and Louis B. Mayer. There is no mention of the Normandy Invasion at D-Day or other important American victories but the My Lai Massacre gets three pages.

    To Howard Zinn, Red China under Chairman Mao was not the bloodiest state in world history in terms of mass killings by its government but a people’s paradise. Cuba under Castro has no record of suppression whatsoever, in his telling. There is very little one can learn about history in this book. If you have read Karl Marx you can predict what Zinn will say. The first line in the ‘Communist Manifesto’—“The history of all hitherto existing societies is the history of class struggle”—is how Zinn explains the entirety of American History. He sees greed motivating every major event—the rich got richer at the expense of others is all you need to understand.

    America sparked the fire of Freedom and Self-Government around the world, but to Zinn our own Founding was a new diabolical way to oppress others. Whether the United States permitted or abolished slavery, its motives can be boiled down to pernicious greed. Even our entry into World War Two was because Americans were greedy, according to Howard Zinn. And us rebuilding our mortal enemies after that conflagration, Japan and Germany, who are now our chief economic rivals, that was American greed too.

    Howard Zinn’s book says, laughably, “Unemployment grew during the Reagan Years,” which is ridiculously false. The day Reagan took office unemployment was 7.5%; the day he left office it was 5.4%. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to see which figure is greater. He only smears Reagan because Reagan helped free hundreds of millions of people from the Slavery of the Socialism that Zinn builds his entire worldview around.

    ‘A People’s History of the United States’ can be reduced to this: workers are good, entrepreneurs are bad; minorities are good, white men are bad; feminists, racial agitators, and socialists are good but Christians, Conservatives, and Achievers are bad. All people are neatly slotted into groups and all groups have been oppressed except one: the Oppressor (did you guess heterosexual white males?).
    posted by James Watkins

    Looking for myself to see if this is true, I found this article on Wikipedia that verifies the required reading of this deceptive history book in our high-schools and colleges. 

    A People's History of the United States
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_People% … ted_States


    Millennials are lead to believe anti-American propaganda as historical truth.  This is an eye opener (in part) to how and why people are brainwashed in masses by the government.  I know that many millennials know better and completely reject socialism...and are too smart to fall for the lies being taught in schools. While there are those with low IQs that may have forfeited their brains in the government's common core education system, but its not their fault. 

    It is something to think about, and shows how important it is to get rid of Common Core, and bring the schools educational materials back into the control at the local levels (where smart parents and smart teachers have a say).  One more great reason to support Trump.

    They want your mind controlled! 

    "government run 'education' (read: indoctrination) must be permanently outlawed. Free and mandatory government education is one of Karl Marx's Ten Planks of Communism." -  Bill Henderson

    1. Credence2 profile image77
      Credence2posted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Cmon, Colorfulone, utter rot!

      You ought to read about the revisionist American History being conjured up in text books by so called educators  in Texas. Only a place as retrograde as Texas would  consider auto mechanics as qualified judges of American History.  i.e. (Slavery was not a main cause of the Civil War, but the violation of States Rights?) Such is the anti-intellectual foundation of the modern conservative movement.

      The danger from brain washing comes from the right and it always has. The rightwinger is terrorfied at the very concept of free and independent thinking that is why that have so much negatiive to say about the very concept of higher education.

      1. colorfulone profile image76
        colorfuloneposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        President Abraham Lincoln in his Second Inaugural Address said that slavery was the reason for the war.

        People forget that the Democrat party controlled the south, and was segregationist before and after the Civil War.  The KKK was Democratic.  It was the Republicans and Eisenhower that introduced the civil rights legislation.

        In '68 the conservatives in the south abandoned the Democratic party and began to bond with Richard Nixon and the Republican party. The south today is more of a Republican enclave.  I think that was the last huge electorate realignment of historical importance.  Right now we are living in the moments of a great historical election realignment that is critical to America and our individual liberty.  Trump is causing it.

        1. Paul Wingert profile image59
          Paul Wingertposted 8 years agoin reply to this

          @colorfulone- looks like you don't now the difference between socialism and communism. Well said Credence2 -spot on about the right wing lunatics in TX.

          1. Credence2 profile image77
            Credence2posted 8 years agoin reply to this

            Thanks Paul

          2. colorfulone profile image76
            colorfuloneposted 8 years agoin reply to this

            If the classical ideology functioned in the way designated by Marx...(opportunists) don't know what they are doing, but none the less do it anyway.  Cynical ideology (anarchists) functions in the mode of ... I know what I am doing but I am very well still going to do it.

        2. Credence2 profile image77
          Credence2posted 8 years agoin reply to this

          Ok, the GOP were the 'good guys' earlier on and at least neutral until Reagan. After that, up to today, they have not been such great promoters of Civil Rights.

          The 1968 event has been described as the "Southern Strategy" , the Dems have become the progressive party and that influence was reaching state and local governments in the South by the late sixities. So, of course, those with racist resentments went GOP rather than share power with African Americans in the region. While Trump take us back into the past to this era I thought was bipassed in the late 1960's.  He is 'causing it', alright....

      2. Live to Learn profile image60
        Live to Learnposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        I'm going to have to disagree on this point. I don't think slavery was the rallying point in the south and they fired the first shot. I don't think slavery was the issue used to fill the ranks within the confederate army. I don't even believe slavery was the issue for most in the north,who supported the war.

        Was the abolition of slavery, without a doubt, the single greatest outcome of the war?, We can all agree on that point.

        Revisionist history is just a term we use to degrade attempts to bring all of history to light. Our ancestors were the same as we are. Just a motley assortment of people who interacted for a motley assortment of reasons.

        The fact that the north eventually solidified a belief they could use as moral justification for continuing the war doesn't automatically mean the south solidified an opposing belief. One side of my family is American and lived in the south. None of them owned slaves. Was it due to economics or conviction? I don't know. Some of them fought in that war. Was it to defend slavery or other beliefs? I don't know. But I'm certainly open to understanding all factors which contributed to participation.

        1. Credence2 profile image77
          Credence2posted 8 years agoin reply to this

          I dunno, L&L most of the renown historians whom I had read  on the subject will see 'slavery' as the 'elephant in the room', while other issues were on the periphery .

          I am not aware  any other single sectional issue that was as contentious between the two regions going back as many as 40 years before the Civil War.

          As for the fact that most did not own slaves, that is probably right. But it is much like it is today the 'planter class' had inordinate influence, with the loudest of loud voices, turning the economic exploitation involved in   owning human property to a rallying cry for States Rights and the threat to the Southern way of life.

          All you have to do is check out the tear jerker, 'Gone with the Wind', those that were not planters aspire to be such with their own slaves. Those that aspired added their voices to those that already were. Much as today, why do people  support those whose policies are in direct contradiction to their economic interests?

          1. Live to Learn profile image60
            Live to Learnposted 8 years agoin reply to this

            You may have a point which applies to some people when you talk about some non slave owners aspiring to be affluent enough to become one. Kind of like today with Trump. I see a lot of the adoration he gets as because of his wealth. People think wealth is more important than values.

            And, slavery was a hell of an elephant, for sure. But, I can see supporting a course without agreeing with all others on that course and also while agreeing with others opposed to the course. Like General Lee. He appeared to be a man who disagreed philosophically with much and had no love of the thought of a civil war, yet he stood with his state instead of his country.

            Look at this moment. The wars we have been a part of. When it is all finished, how will history write it? I hate a lot of it, yet I support the ideals that people should not live in fear, all humans are equal and none should be subjugated. But, if everything escalates, the ideals of the West fall to the wayside, there are sub sections of the global community who will claim they felt the same and were triumphant in eradicating it, by orchestrating our demise.

            History could showcase our faults, letting our qualities be forgotten. I would be sad if history wrote me off as supporting the things I oppose. I consider my motivations fairly altruistic. The tools we allow to implement our ideals are easily perceived otherwise because not all of our motivations are in sync and even the best intentions of some are inextricably tied to lesser ideals.

            1. Credence2 profile image77
              Credence2posted 8 years agoin reply to this

              How true, Robert E. Lee, as a thoughful and reflective man. would never have given in to the cries for secession based on the preservation of slavery or even the concept of States Rights. He agonized over his choice to join the Confederacy only because he did not want to take arms against his native Virginia.

              All freedom loving people everywhere will band together to fight radical Islam and destroy it as necessary to keep it from realizing its global ambitions. We all did the same against Nazi Germany, Fascist Italy and Imperial Japan. And, we will do it again. Sometimes war is the only choice left as a last resort over conquest and subjugation. I believe that the ideals of the 'West' are worth preserving and fighting for to retain. Howeverm the concept of war is nothing to be toyed with and bantered about like 'some presidential candidates' I know seem apt to do. Short of preserving life and freedom, most of the saber rattling is unjustified.

              1. Live to Learn profile image60
                Live to Learnposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                Couldn't agree more.

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        ahorsebackposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        You just made the most ridiculous statement here ,  Congratulations !   I just watched a news  program talk about graffiti at a university causing students and educators to align counseling for those traumatized by he graffiti . Know what the graffiti said ?

        Trump for President !  ----Written in large chalk letters on a cement stairway . Please ;  and you say  propaganda is from the close minded right ?   The entire education system in America is pushing and has pushed a leftist agenda for decades .  Now you tell me , who's the REAL close minded here ?

        1. colorfulone profile image76
          colorfuloneposted 8 years agoin reply to this

          I have not yet heard one single word of hatred spoken by Donald Trump toward... No one has provided proof of an example, its been blow-out of proportion and propagandized in sound bites. 

          The liberals, however, are passive servers of unadulterated hatred. Their contempt toward the conservative is perceived as genuine because its (at the most basic level) root or origin stems from self-critique. "Liberals," rightfully knowledgeable of injustice, unjustly sense similar guilt and insecurity. They will project this feeling of guilt in the form of externalized self-hatred onto "conservatives."

          It seems that most of the liberal media is not capable of comprehending anything but hate. They can only make any sense of Donald Trump (for example) by coloring him and his campaign in a detestable way, partly because of Trump's daring affirmations of national identify.

          Many young liberals and old, do not believe that they can love their country, because to them that means they would have to hate another.  But hatred, obviously, does not derive itself from love. - God is Love!

          1. Live to Learn profile image60
            Live to Learnposted 8 years agoin reply to this

            lol lol Not to the God is love part. Just the rest of it.

        2. Credence2 profile image77
          Credence2posted 8 years agoin reply to this

          Open inquiry and thought without fear has always belonged to the left, such is the explanation for academia and why the conservatives fear it so much. Can't brainwash people who are trained to think for themselves and independently.

          1. wilderness profile image94
            wildernessposted 8 years agoin reply to this

            http://emorywheel.com/emory-students-ex … chalkings/

            Want to repeat that after reading this?  Traumatized college students ("adults") required counselling after a "chalking" of "TRUMP 2016" on the sidewalk.  They're "afraid" now that someone supports Trump in their university.  Demands the college disavow anything to do with him.  Demands "diversity" in their university...as long as they like it; other views unwelcome.  "Open inquiry"?  "Thought without fear"?  I don't think so.  Not in American academia, not any more.  And not from the left.

            1. Kathryn L Hill profile image76
              Kathryn L Hillposted 8 years agoin reply to this

              "... the broader concern motivating the protests had to do more with the IDEAS the chalkings stood for than how they were done.
              “Was it really just a message about a political preference, a candidate preference, or was it a HARSHER message?” he asked. “And I will tell you, those who met with me were genuine in their concerns that it was the LATTER.”
              " ...'People still don’t understand that the protest yesterday served not only as an expression against one interpretation of the chalking, but also as a collective manifestation against the FEAR that a BIGOT LEADER can create,' she added." (Caps mine)
              Very revealing.


            2. Credence2 profile image77
              Credence2posted 8 years agoin reply to this

              The example in the emorywheel is unfortunate but not typical. I will always err on the side of the rule over the exception.

              Conservatives embrace authoritarianism and authoritarianism is defined by anti-intellectualism.

              See the Psychology Today article if you can find the time:

              https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/ou … lectualism

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            ahorsebackposted 8 years agoin reply to this

            The problem is though , the left doesn't think as independently  and enlighteningly as you or they would have us  all believe ,   The ideology of todays left , at least IN  American culture , is a utopian dream-world  of entitlement driven political causes .     Free -everything .    In  almost all the younger people I know its about "what  we need"  from this economy , this government , this  election . 
            For instance ,the "why's" of voting for Sanders  , Is about......... "my college loans , my  free  higher education ,   my  high paying job , my free health care ,  my ...my....my .........Some of the brightest and most forward thinking people in the world are in  conservative leadership  ,  Stop trying to regurgitate the same of  demon-ology as being all on  the right and utopian-izing  the Nazi like tactical  warfare that he left has grown accustomed to using since before Obama  began his first campaigning !

            1. Rodeon profile image56
              Rodeonposted 8 years agoin reply to this


            2. Credence2 profile image77
              Credence2posted 8 years agoin reply to this

              So, you say that the other side (the right) is not operating on the basis of self-interest?

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                ahorsebackposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                The right wants less , yes !  Less . Less big government's  complete  take over of all facets of living , all liberties of a nation to the point where  , there are no more liberties .  Why don't you show us one facet of legislative control  or necessity that big government has improved on . Say health care ?  How about   social security ,  Medicaid ?      On the job safety ?          Ya .......I thought so .

                1. Credence2 profile image77
                  Credence2posted 8 years agoin reply to this

                  So, I guess 'big government' is the FAA, SEC, USDA, FDA, Dept. of Homeland Security, do you get the drift? All of these are appendages of an 'oppressive' Government.  Which Government agency is responsible, so that the meat you buy at the market is not dangerously tainted?

                  In your 18th century thinking do we go back to the world of powdered wigs and knee breeches to satisfy your anti-government rants?

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                    ahorsebackposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                    No , the difference in the conservative  government and liberal one  doesn't include my hands in your wallet or pocket book ,  like that of the leftist approach to all entitlements.  A few things that you would have us believe are  all about a better government :

                    -Free tuition , for higher education
                    -Free welfare
                    -Free health care for all
                    -Free mortgage loans and homes
                    -Free  dental care
                    -Free everything

                    Problem is all of your free stuff costs more for everybody around you  , including me , get my drift .

              2. Kathryn L Hill profile image76
                Kathryn L Hillposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                We all operate on self-interest. it is a given. It is necessary. Furthermore, one's own happiness depends on the happiness of others.

                Q. Do we give people what they want/need or create the conditions/opportunities for them to get what they want/need?

                I really think the left wants to be able to hand over what others want/need. The right (ideally, used to anyway, hope they still do) wants them to be able to get it for themselves.
                Which is better in the long run: 
                Give a man his fish dinner or teach him how to get his own?

                How do we create opportunities for others (individuals) as opposed to creating dependency through TEMPORARY fixes?

                For instance, If you want to create opportunity through higher education, keep college (state university) tuition low enough for students to afford, (but not free, as it is not fair to the taxpayers.)

                1. Credence2 profile image77
                  Credence2posted 8 years agoin reply to this

                  I hear you, KH, I am saying that conservatives are making it difficult for people to get the implements to fish for themselves.

                  If college tuition goes up beyond the ability of most people to send their kids, the only kids that will afford to be able to go will be those of the 1 percent, so they have the leg up, the dynasty, while all the rest are consigned to the coal mines. What agency or process is going to keep the cost of college within the reach of the average person?  It is certainly not the conservatives. A elitist America is not going work and is consigned to failure at the starting gate. A society where only the priviledged few have access to the tools upward mobility and success.

                  Public works projects on our crumbling national infrastructure would be a start in the right direction, proving well paying jobs for work that needs to be done.

    2. James A Watkins profile image84
      James A Watkinsposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Hey! That was me!!

  2. Live to Learn profile image60
    Live to Learnposted 8 years ago

    Having raised two and interacting with grandchildren working their way up through the educational system, I will say that I think you are over reacting. I have no problem with alternative views being presented, thus challenging children to think and understand that history is viewed differently by each of us, depending on our cultural backgrounds.

    I don't see a quiet revolution taking place.

  3. Kathryn L Hill profile image76
    Kathryn L Hillposted 8 years ago

    for goodness sake. Do WE THE PEOPLE of the UNITED states of AMERICA want  F R E E D O M  or not???
    We should focus on freedom alone and what grants it.
    What grants freedom?


    ( No millennial's are here, (apparently) so I post this.
    But, Yay Mc Cartney!)

    1. colorfulone profile image76
      colorfuloneposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Thank you for posting Sir Paul's "Freedom" song. I hadn't heard it before (shared it around the world). 

      We are in a fight for our freedom!

      1. Kathryn L Hill profile image76
        Kathryn L Hillposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        shared it @ the world?
        Keep up the good work, you colorful one!

          http://www.bharatplaza.com/fashiontrend … our-color/

  4. Michaela Osiecki profile image68
    Michaela Osieckiposted 8 years ago

    Snake Person here, weighing in....

    I have never seen that book in my life. This book was not part of my high school OR college curriculum. Even if it is part of the required reading of a curriculum, let us not forget that even high school students typically have multiple textbooks for the same class - because it lets them get different perspectives on history based on the writers and how they interpret it.

    Because history is ALWAYS up for interpretation. History is often written by the victor, they say. Which means that history books are almost always skewed in favor of the White Man, because Western Imperialism is pervasive across the globe. Guess what other parts of "American" history are usually left out of history textbooks? The Genocide of the Native Americans, for one. There's no mention of smallpox blankets or how more white men scalped Natives than the other way around. Nope, none of that.

    When talking about world history, it's ALWAYS from the perspective of the White Man and how everyone else's way of life was either wrong or inferior to the western "civilized" world. You wouldn't believe some of the racist information I came across regarding China and East Asia. The Ancient Egyptians are never treated as the mathematician masterminds they were. No one ever talks around the Middle Eastern origin of what we call coffee today.

    I for one, would have been glad to have a more globalized approach to learning history, to actually hearing from the perspectives of the peoples we were being taught about.

    1. Kathryn L Hill profile image76
      Kathryn L Hillposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      and to learn from the successes and mistakes of the past. Liberty equals happiness.
      what is Liberty?

  5. Paul Kuehn profile image94
    Paul Kuehnposted 8 years ago

    Is it any wonder that Donald Trump is attracting the support which he has gained in the primaries?  I might add that the leftist propaganda on news channels like CNN, MSNBC, CBS, ABC, and from major newspapers like the New York Times and Washington Post is just as bad as Zinn's book.  I have been living out of the U.S. for many years so I was unaware that Zinn's Marxist book was required reading in high schools.  Thanks for sharing this information!

  6. Kathryn L Hill profile image76
    Kathryn L Hillposted 8 years ago

    Is there something wrong with giving The Federalist Papers equal time?
    If the answer is yes, that is not a good sign.
    The best thing for the Globalists is a dumbed-down population.

    What does Trump understand about The Constitution?
    How about Clinton? Or do they pretty much interpret it to suit their own agendas / expectations?

    Thank goodness the anarchists have quieted down around here. We need to look forward, not backward, (as they tend to do,) at this point. Those day are gone. We are a global community due to technological advances, but we must maintain our borders, our own currency and our own customs. Fences are good. Talking to our neighbors over fences is good.
    Respecting their autonomy / independence is good.
    Good for what?

    independence noun
    1 self-government, self-rule, home rule, separation, self-determination, sovereignty, autonomy, freedom, liberty.
    2 self-sufficiency, self-reliance, autonomy, freedom, liberty.


  7. Kathryn L Hill profile image76
    Kathryn L Hillposted 8 years ago

    When society looses touch with the joy and momentum provided by independence and freedom, it starts to go to sleep. 

      ZZ ZZZ ZZZ Z  ~ (-_-) ~ z zzzz  zzz z     z  …      .

  8. Kathryn L Hill profile image76
    Kathryn L Hillposted 8 years ago

    Liberals are full of their own understanding. If you look at The Young Turks for instance, they really are quite arrogant in their ignorance. They are not open to the truth. Not a bit. If you ask my opinion about the matter, which no one ….


  9. Kathryn L Hill profile image76
    Kathryn L Hillposted 8 years ago

    "Revisionist history is just a term we use to degrade attempts to bring all of history to light. Our ancestors were the same as we are. Just a motley assortment of people who interacted for a motley assortment of reasons."

    I disagree.  I believe humans are evolving in awareness, heart and understanding. Hatred for slavery had been on the rise and snowballing within the minds of the people. I believe anti-slavery sentiment was definitely ON THE RISE!!!!  Therefore, enter the person of Abraham Lincoln!
    One is free to think otherwise, but to do so only downplays the intelligence and sensibilities of the human spirit ...
    which I believe in.

  10. colorfulone profile image76
    colorfuloneposted 8 years ago

    Good question, Cred.  "What agency or process is going to keep the cost of college within the reach of the average person".

    Cutting to the chase with a poll question that no one raised their hand...

    “How many of you would say that the primary motivation for offering students merit scholarships is to reward academic achievement?”

    That response goes a long way to explain college tuition rates that have risen 12% in the last decade while median household income has declined 6% over the same period. And why student debt levels have hit $1.2 trillion, a burden that surpasses even U.S. household credit card debt.

    Elite universities like Harvard, Stanford and others on the top of the FORBES list exist in their own orbit–they admit students without factoring in need, their multibillion-dollar endowments providing generous grants for the middle-class and poor. (Get into any Ivy League school with a family income of less than $60,000 and you can pretty much expect a free ride.)

    Forbes:  http://www.forbes.com/sites/maggiemcgra … 8cfd3c6efb

    Sounds like a problem that Trump / Carson can solve.  smile

    1. Credence2 profile image77
      Credence2posted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Understood, I don't know about Trump/Carson. Trump is too egocentric to have a running mate that could even be considered a competitive threat.

      Harvard and the Ivy League gets lots of endowment money, what about support for State and community colleges? Education and access to it will be key for a truly democratic society, giving the masses of people a chance to be economically self sufficient. The GI Bill helps a little bit.

      But we always go back to the 'before time', when the Vanderbilts, Astors, Morgans, Carnegies, Rockefellers and people like them controlled the economy and made sure all opportunity and wealth was funnelled through to their descendents. When you ask their progeny about this, they say that they were 'self made' American success stories, much like Donald Trump says today. That is the 'conservative' way, everybody in his or her place, knowing their relative station in life. Their very existence will depend on how much 'hat in hand and bend of knee' they are willing to submit themselves to to find favor with the 'corporate ruling class' Much like Trump's 'The Apprentice' composed of washed up entertainers, who kissed his glutumus maximus each week for his favors.

      However, every now and then a clever, or lucky sort might escape life as an eternal serf, but that will be the exception rather than the rule.

  11. Kathryn L Hill profile image76
    Kathryn L Hillposted 8 years ago

    OR Facilitate job creation by the citizens themselves:
    1. Follow/comprehend The Constitution's original precepts.
    2. Give states, cities, communities back their power.
    3. Keep jobs in the US and all that entails.
    4. Ease up on the fines, regulations, over-burensome taxes and rules that make entrepreneurship IMPOSSIBLE in this country.
    5. Provide opportunity through education and all that entails.

    How any of this could be done I have no idea.
    Let's ask Mr. Sanders and Mrs. Clinton.
    Mr. Trump and Mr. Cruz.

    Oh wait, no more debates. sad

  12. colorfulone profile image76
    colorfuloneposted 8 years ago

    Patrick Henry and the American Revelation is still remembered in history text books. The man who founded this great country.  "Give me liberty or give me death" is the only text from his great words from his 1775 speech that remain, all else has be deleted.

    "An appeal to arms and the God of hosts is all that is left us. But we shall not fight our battle alone. There is a just God that. presides over the destinies of nations. The battle sir, is not of the strong alone. Is life so dear or peace so sweet as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it almighty God. I know not what course others may take, but as for me, give me liberty, or give me death."

    The attacks on our religions started during the Cold War. Communism/socialism opposes religion in countries that adopted it and discourages it, and also opposes nationalism.  Socialism and communism are the same ideology.

    Except religions that are based on socialism that promotes atheism. 
    Sounds to me like another controlling religion based on works.  sad
    What about Christianity?

  13. psycheskinner profile image84
    psycheskinnerposted 8 years ago

    There is nothing in socialism that is in opposition to being religiously tolerant and plurality. In fact many socialist countries are.  My boring ol' home nation of New Zealand being one example,

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    ahorsebackposted 8 years ago

    Great , then leave socialism where it is now .   Socialism  by definition ,  requires  one thought , one people of the same mind , all  arousal  of political, personal , economic , educational  well-being  belongs to the group . As does all progress in economics , and culture   .   Socialism tends to exterminate  entrepanurial individualism  by economic slave- stagnation .  By over-taxation for the good of all -by the best of the few . Norway, is the perfect example.

    Given that  by definition  , we can then assume that  what todays needs  are of an immature ,American under-wisdomed and over-education culture needs , Is to get to work and stop living off from and dreaming of living off from the backs of all others .    Individuality is one of the major founding principles of our capitalist -democratic- republic. The American sub-culture of mostly semi-educated youth , is seeking  more for the masses from the sweat of the rest ,  blaming all the while ,  those who came  before them.

    1. colorfulone profile image76
      colorfuloneposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      An anonymous member of Congress has published a book titled "The Confessions of Congressman X".  He or she confesses what many of us have suspected for a very long time.

      -“Most of my colleagues are dishonest career politicians who revel in the power and special-interest money that’s lavished upon them.”
      -“My main job is to keep my job, to get reelected. It takes precedence over everything.”
      -“Fundraising is so time consuming I seldom read any bills I vote on. Like many of my colleagues, I don’t know how the legislation will be implemented, or what it’ll cost.”
      -“Voters are incredibly ignorant and know little about our form of government and how it works.”
      -“It’s far easier than you think to manipulate a nation of naive, self-absorbed sheep who crave instant gratification.”
      -“It’s about getting credit now, lookin’ good for the upcoming election.”
      -“We spend money we don’t have and blithely mortgage the future with a wink and a nod. Screw the next generation.”

      Does that last quote make you want to tear your hair out, too?

      Since Barack Obama took office in the White House, the government has been stealing an average of more than 100 million dollars from future generations of Americans every single hour of every single day.
      * http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/arch … presidency

      * http://www.infowars.com/member-of-congr … bed-sheep/

      They know that society has become so “dumbed-down” through entertainment, school and college text books, MSM, and the internet that its easy for them to trick and manipulate a large part of the population.   

      People need to wake up and realize that the establishment is made up of corrupt power hungry, greedy bastards that don't care about America and its future.  That has to change!

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  15. psycheskinner profile image84
    psycheskinnerposted 7 years ago

    "No mention is made of America leading the world in inventions by a country mile"

    Perhaps because that accolade would probably go to Persia, China, or Scotland, depending on what era of invention you consider most important.


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