Is Anarchy an Answer to Our Governments Failings?

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   rhamsonposted 8 years ago

   If there is no progress in changing the direction of our economic unbalance and the opportunity that has been a springboard into upward mobility, can we expect more social unrest? The US in the past has been a success story in providing opportunity and freedom to many different races and creeds but is it slowly losing those principles to social engineering and economic privilege brought on by an elitist agenda? When people are backed into a corner some succumb and some come out fighting.

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   colorfuloneposted 8 years ago

   America is still a free country, but the elite want to impose their dominion and power to enslave everyone.  We were all created equal, and we all have a free will to stand united against the tyranny of the Globalists' NWO. 
   
   Hint: Bill Clinton is a Rockefeller. 
   Read "Arkancide".
   ADDED: "Rockefeller Bloodline".
   
   We just need to have a little bit of love in our hearts for everyone in the USA, every race, and stand united with one another.

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      rhamsonposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      I hear what you are saying but with that love in our hearts we need unity. The politicians with their media cohorts are determined to keep us divided. With BLM groups and groups that preach a divisive message the counter productivity is ensconced in the vernacular.

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         colorfuloneposted 8 years agoin reply to this

         We can be united right here with love in our hearts and stand against this grand deception.  I just listened to this video (10 min.) with Alex Jones and George "Shiva" Humphrey and they verbalized what I feel is true in my gut. 
         *  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFjO5QoI-G8

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            rhamsonposted 8 years agoin reply to this

            All of this is in place to keep us fighting among ourselves and not focusing on the reasons why this country is run the way it is. There is an elite group of people pulling all the strings to keep things the way they are. We are kept at each others throats so the fleecing of our country and other countries can continue. It is the greed of conquest through our farce of freedom that allows this to happen. The money is the basic grounds by which everything takes place and the money is being controlled by one family. They have the influence we lack of our government and they continue to manipulate us until they have it all. If you want to see an eye opener watch this. This is why anarchy will become a popular notion.
            
            https://youtu.be/YimCWwlWxXc

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         Credence2posted 8 years agoin reply to this

         Messages and groups that question the appropriateness of the status quo are always considered 'divisive'. You can't make an omelette without breaking an egg or two.

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   Castlepalomaposted 8 years ago

   Most people do not understand what anarchy means. No authority above me or below me. Because kings and Governments today have been slowing down the advancement of humanity and each individual person.
   
   Anarchy can be a adapted with a smaller Government that service the people, not all as* backwards, us servicing them as slaves.

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      wildernessposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      As the single biggest government role is to exert control (protect), it seems unlikely in the extreme that any government at all is compatible with anarchy.  After all, anarchy simply means "the strongest rules" and government's job is to stop that.
      
      Of course, if human nature, competitiveness and greed were all different it might work.

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         Kathryn L Hillposted 8 years agoin reply to this

         … and there is only one way to overcome human nature, but you refuse to go there.

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         Castlepalomaposted 8 years agoin reply to this

         Wilderness
         
         You like Ron Paul , he is really a libertarian closet thing in elections related to anarchist. You could govern  people with volunteerism. Although when it comes to war, you must steal money from the people to kill them and more often murder them.

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            wildernessposted 8 years agoin reply to this

            But anarchy denies any "governing" by anybody.  Which is why it is simply "rule by the strongest" as there is always somebody wanting to stop someone else from doing as they please whether it is beating their wife or just enjoying the fruits of their labor.

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               Castlepalomaposted 8 years agoin reply to this

               I've been to an anarchist island off of Vancouver island. They worked out everything well.
               
               They were ethical  and treated everyone like family. When someone steals from someone, nobody on the island will deal with that person and he starved himself off the island. Also you can always hire someone to protect yourself from bullies.
               
               War and oil is getting too old, mainly the greedy really still want it to rule others. We all are anarchist in degrees. We want to rule and service ourselves first, then volunteer to other. Next level of freedom is when you can serve others and not be selfish.

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                  wildernessposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                  "Also you can always hire someone to protect yourself from bullies. "
                  
                  I think that kind of says it all; you can hire people willing to enforce your will onto others.  Plus, that there are bullies forcing their will says just as much.
                  
                  Rule of the strongest, as I said, although I will say that small communities can exist, for a time, under anarchy.  The more the people, the longer the time; both will eventually bring a bully into the picture, however, and it only takes a small handful of them to ruin paradise.

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                     Kathryn L Hillposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                     "When someone steals from someone, nobody on the island will deal with that person and he starved himself off the island."
                     
                     One misstep and yer an outcast.

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                        Castlepalomaposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                        They only had it happen from one person ever.
                        
                        Where in our justice system in  Vancouver area has criminal offend hundreds of times and still out in the streets.
                        
                        Yet the bust plant growers like murderers and only 13% of violence criminals are locked up.

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               Castlepalomaposted 8 years agoin reply to this

               Most people in Norway Switzerland and Iceland are into anarchist. Yet not Governed by a full system yet.

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                  wildernessposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                  I can only repeat that there is no governing in an anarchistic system...save that applied by the strongman that makes his own "government".

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               Credence2posted 8 years agoin reply to this

               Anarchy is simply more 'Mad max'. Human nature will never permit sizable human communities without some form of government. The contrary beingno more viable than the concept of 'perpetual motion machines'.

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      rhamsonposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Anarchy can only be applied as an end to a means. The overthrow of a governmental institution can only go two ways. One is to form a new government based on mutual demands or it goes into a dictatorship where the vanquisher makes the rules. The latter usually has much unrest and frequent uprisings.

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         Castlepalomaposted 8 years agoin reply to this

         Most of us know the hierarchy system is not working. The counter balance is anarchy, something in between would work.

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            rhamsonposted 8 years agoin reply to this

            Anarchy is a shortcut around government and law and order. The hierarchy has spent years honing the rules and conditions that have produced a slanted system in their favor. We on the other hand have fallen asleep at the helm. We either did not care, thought it did not matter or were gaming the same system. Either way we created this mess and are looking to blame others. A true dilemma of the modern age. Instead of utilizing the system of democratic rule anarchy attempts to overthrow that which we have ignored instead of getting together and compromising our own wants and opinions for the sake of the country. Just look at the division we have here with people sticking to an ideology at the cost of looking ridiculous or even ludicrous. Until we understand the tactics of the hierarchy of misinformation, inflammatory side arguments and division we shall continue down this worm hole.
            
            "Many forms of Government have been tried, and will be tried in this world of sin and woe. No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all-wise. Indeed, it has been said that democracy is the worst form of government except all those other forms that have been tried from time to time."
               
            “You can depend upon the Americans to do the right thing. But only after they have exhausted every other possibility.”
            
            Sir Winston Churchill

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               Credence2posted 8 years agoin reply to this

               Yes, Washington needs a shake-up. The representative system we have is currently unresponsive because these reps are not serving the people who elected them but instead serve the interests of the plutocrat who gives them money. There is nothing wrong with our government structure in principle, simply the virus has to be removed before the body politic functions as it was intended to. That is easier said than done.

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                  rhamsonposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                  Until we address the problem without the name calling and bias we shall never make any progress. Calling each other a liberal or conservative defrays the argument to semantics and ends any progress. We look for reasons to back up our argument on the semantics and are sidetracked just as it is intended. "Let them eat cake" is a typical response that does not address the problems and without an understanding of the truths. By a departure from the issues, as this is the result we encourage a endless non responsive argument.

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                     wildernessposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                     I think you're right that the labels of "liberal" and "conservative" has become more of a name calling gambit than anything.  Both have taken on a negative connotative value, and we can see that with the recent change from "liberal" to "progressive" in an effort to promote a more positive appearance.  It didn't, of course, change the underlying position at all, just (hopefully) made things sound better.

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   Castlepalomaposted 8 years ago

   Your only as strong as your weakest link. When everyone is stronger as individual because a system like anarchy is in corporated with small Governments/Capitalistic handling smaller stuff it's still way better than the banking systems.
   
   If you think a strong man like Trump is an answer to America weakest link,   think again. Or any candidate to sole govern for a fact.  Even if America thinks on not dealing with so call weaker third world countries. Think again generally third world countries are surpassing Americans economic growth. USA borrows $800 billion from China, they will put a stop to that very soon. US cuts off Russia oil from Europe they just join China and India. Wait it out with Europe, then Europe one by one will join BRICS.

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   Kathryn L Hillposted 8 years ago

   I have a feeling anarchy is playing it by ear according to only one leading impulse:
   Love.
   The problem is when some do not listen to their hearts. And, as we know, not all …
   
   for instance: Maybe I have a child with one man and just happen to fall in love with a sexier one only five years later. What happened to true love? False love vs true love is sometimes hard to determine. Will the child love his mother's first choice as much as the second? No. True love would tell the mother to stay with the child's father for the sake of the child. True love would help the parents find true harmony.
   
   And yet, for anarchists there are two bad M words: Marriage and Money. Money is not the bad thing. Greed is.
   Marriage is not the bad thing, unwillingness to commit is.
   And then there is the G word:  Government
   Govt. is not the bad thing: not respecting / understanding / following the Constitution is.

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      Kathryn L Hillposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      ! what a blunder:  "Will the child love his mother's first choice as much as the second? No."
      
      EDIT: Will the child love his mother's second choice as much as the first?
      No.
      
      He will love his mother's first choice, who can only and forever be his real father.
      After bonding with the first man for the first five years of his life, the child accepts him on a very deep level as his OWN father. This is an example of the power / design of nature. Psychological bonding / love is a scientific reality in human behavior.

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   Castlepalomaposted 8 years ago

   You hear today, too often the family is broken and divorce is the second most painful experience next to death.Divorce is more over money than sex. Anarchist don't believe in poverty for it is the greatest killer on earth. They volunteer sharing with everyone the natural environment and humanity. Governments make lousy parents anyway.
   
   The law stands already common law are as responsible as marriage couples. There is just more trouble with marriage licenses and cost more in taxes. Even taxes is a form of theif to anarchist as taxes and paper trail cost more than food and rent.
   
   Atheist are much like Anarchist in the way they don't want authoritiian interference in their lives. The majority of problems I've had in my life, for the last ten years is Government. About 80% of people do not like the Government. Making public servant the least satisfied job in the nation and in return the greatest wasted of time a human could possible experience on a grand scale. Could go on forever on how destructive Corporatism/Government are by far the worst criminal organization in the history of mankind.

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   ahorsebackposted 8 years ago

   Your rant about government ;  This  government Is  suffered upon us all because voter apathy  , total lack of voting intelligence , lack of leadership vetting and insight ,lack of intelligent  involvement !     The American people have grown politically stupid and can't even vote  without the considerations of hair color ,    clothing styles and  celebrity-hood .
   
   It is our fault -   !  Government representation  is simply the reflection of the American publics  political immaturity !    Kick them all out - that's all we have to do , Why is it America  can move a mountain  when another country needs us but for ourselves ----We can't even vet a political candidate ?

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      Castlepalomaposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Iceland learn from American advisor how to over throw the Rothschild's bankers . Iceland is a very happy place now, so America can do it too.

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         ahorsebackposted 8 years agoin reply to this

         Are you now changing your mind about Bolivia  and moving to Iceland ?

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            Castlepalomaposted 8 years agoin reply to this

            No, Iceland is still in the radiation zone area from when the World war starts. Too dam cold like Canada and too difficult to grow food year round..
            
            Bolivia kicked out the World banks out for most part. They don't own huge weapons to kill each other effective enough like the Northern hemisphere.The lack of food will be biggest killer for the first step in this World . Won't be long before food stamps run out when it reaches half of Americans.

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      rhamsonposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      You have got it dead on ahorseback. The problem is we believe in this sham we think is our government. The real government sold out a long time ago to the moneyed interest and replaced it with this reflection of our democratic/republic system. We believe in the premise but it has been replaced by something else. Until we understand that and act on it as a united front we will continue to be fed these window dressing candidates of the elitists choosing.

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   Kathryn L Hillposted 8 years ago

   … when children stop being dragged out of two-original-parent homes, when children are given what they need as far as the environment they are raised in, Anarchy, where everyone cooperates with one another with good will and cheer in their hearts, will never work. Even in ideal circumstances, a rascally human can emerge. This rascal could be a Hitler or a Hillary. No, we will always benefit from a democratic system of checks and balances in a nation which is not too big and not too small.
   
   The Way I See It

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      Castlepalomaposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Anarchy can work and dose work because everyone is an anarchist to some degree. The switch to anarchist directly, no. When anarchy is incorporated with socialism and Capitism like with Iceland and some  northern European Countries, yes.

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         wildernessposted 8 years agoin reply to this

         Most people are anarchists in direct proportion to how much personal power they wield and how much they can control others.

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