Celebrities everywhere Just be quiet !

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   ahorsebackposted 7 years ago

   Stick a microphone into the face of a "celebrity" and they instantly begin making noises . No one cares that they have a political  opinion , it is however  adding to the divisiveness  in America that one  ideology has been gifted a "louder voice" than all others .
   
   
   Shouldn't  microphone- hogs  be far more mature ?

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      Live to Learnposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      The American public should be more mature. Celebrities are paid to entertain. When they start attempting to influence politics we should just turn them off. I don't care about their opinion simply because they have no credibility. Either way, you have no idea if they are acting or stating firmly held opinions.

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         Stevennix2001posted 7 years agoin reply to this

         I think you bring up a valid point, which is why I laugh at the thought of LeBron James being this generation's Muhammad Ali, even though sports channels like ESPN and Fox sports will have you believing he is this generation's Ali. 
         
         The only problem with that assumption is that Ali wasn't owned by anyone.  He was his own man, who had his own voice.  LeBron James is nothing more than a puppet.  Plain and simple if you research this hard enough.  For instance.  He once said that he STOPPED eating at McDonald's, a few years into his nba career, simply because he was trying to eat healthier to prolong his career.  Nothing wrong with that, but the only problem is that he forgot that he was under contract with McDonald's, so he ended up retracting that statement later by lying to us about how he still eats at McDonald's; in spite of what he said before. 
         
         Since finding that out, along with how much he acted like a crybaby over Phil Jackson calling his friends a "posse", I sort of lost all respect for LeBron James as an activist, and sort of see him more as an idiot, who really needs to shut up and worry about his own career than saying anything about social issues in general.
         
         Don't get me wrong, he's a smart businessman from what I read about him, but he's a complete baby at times, and he's too much of a diva to really take seriously on political issues. 
         
         Edit:  Plus, the man signed a lifetime contract with Nike, so the man doesn't even own himself.  How can you say you're the next Muhammad Ali, who's dominant in your own sport, while speaking out on social issues, if you're owned by somebody else?  Like I said before, LeBron James is a puppet, and I'd say that to his face if I ever met him too.

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         RTalloniposted 7 years agoin reply to this

         True words…the American public should indeed be more mature.

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      Credence2posted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Would you tell Rush Limbaugh or Hannity to shut up?
      
      I am not afraid of the opinion of anyone, why is the rightwinger so easily spooked?
      
      Clint Eastwood is a rightwinger but that does not mean that I like his films any less. Talent is talent.  The rightwinger needs to grow up.

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         ahorsebackposted 7 years agoin reply to this

         I know this is most difficult for you to make sense of but Limbaugh is a radio opinion journalist ,   celebs  that I have turned off , Streep , Clooney ,  Whoopi ,  the View actually sickens me , Ted Dansen , on and on ............No one cares about an actor actually pretend acting offended by politics .

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            Paul Wingertposted 7 years agoin reply to this

            Celebrities have the same right to free speech as anyone else so get over it. I'm sure if they were praising your precious orange man-baby, you'd be perfectly okay with that.

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            Credence2posted 7 years agoin reply to this

            Of course, we on your opposing side don't wage war on celebrities for expressing their opinions. We are bigger than that.

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               ahorsebackposted 7 years agoin reply to this

               You ",on my opposing side ".........Politically remind the entire world today of the Oscars nominations last night ,   No  Two people of the ideology on the left can agree on anything - even a  mistake .

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               GA Andersonposted 7 years agoin reply to this

               "...We are bigger than that."
               
               
               
               
               like this...
               
               
               GA

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                  Credence2posted 7 years agoin reply to this

                  I stand my ground on this comment, let's face it the Right complains about celebrities speaking only because they have a left side perspective, it certainly has nothing to do with any real principle.

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            Credence2posted 7 years agoin reply to this

            So, why is the Rush or Hannity diatribe any more significant than that of Meryl Streep outside of the fact that there is Fox megaphone behind them?

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               Kathryn L Hillposted 7 years agoin reply to this

               Rush, (who is not with Fox,) and Hannity deliver (well researched) truth. Movie star libs deliver opinions based on knee jerk hatred. They are ignoramuses based on what they do, which they are experts at: pretend, pretend and pretend to illusion rather than reality.

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                  Credence2posted 7 years agoin reply to this

                  Well researched- BS.
                  
                  I don't see the opinion of these notorious ideologues as any more valid than my opinion or that of, say! Mickey  Mouse....

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                     Kathryn L Hillposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                     well, then, but you are a liberal and you are a no-nothing.   I am open to you proving otherwise. (However, at this point, I have been reading, reading your words and have my opinion ... )

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                        Credence2posted 7 years agoin reply to this

                        It's KNOW nothing and I am prepared to wait till hell freezes over for you to prove otherwise. I do know that  Right wingers are not exactly the sharpest knives in the drawer.....

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                           Kathryn L Hillposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                           oh yea, Know Nothing. see? just writing to you dumbs me down.

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                              Credence2posted 7 years agoin reply to this

                              Whatever, but WE are coming after the Rightwinger and we are gonna get ya...

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                                 Kathryn L Hillposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                                 shaking in our boots we are.

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                                 ahorsebackposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                                 The right winger will never worry about the lefties coming for us -- Someone else perhaps to fight your battles , Putin ,  Mao ,  Pol Pot?    The left is only capable of rioting , pilfering , burning in the night .

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                     GA Andersonposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                     Need a witness Cred? With regards to Hannity - I volunteer.
                     
                     
                     GA

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               ahorsebackposted 7 years agoin reply to this

               Credence , Because they are "NEWS "people  and Meryl is a highly paid  actress of fantasy worlds , That of course is all one and the same to liberals of course  but  remember when the news media wasn't such a fantasy world ?
               Sesame Street isn't a trusted news source .
               Bugs Bunny isn't a  nature documentary .
               Meryl Streep isn't    Barbara Walters .

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         GA Andersonposted 7 years agoin reply to this

         Hello Credence2,
         
         I would not tell Rush to shut-up, I believe he at least thinks about what he says - whether I agree with it or not. But I would definitely tell Hannity to shut-up, (well, no, I wouldn't, but you get my point), he is just a water-boy, a mouthpiece. I can't recall ever hearing an original thought from him - before I stopped listening. Whenever I hear his voice I quickly change channels or stations.
         
         But, I strongly disagree with you about Eastwood. Besides really enjoying his work, (C'mon, admit how great Gran Torino was), I really enjoy his conservative perspectives. His comments, (the ones I have listened to), always seem sensible, and from conviction - he is nobody's water-boy. You may disagree with him, but at least you will be disagreeing with a considered perspective - not just party pablum.
         
         If you want to point the "grow-up" finger - a selfie might give offer you a legitimate target. How grown-up is it to label folks that disagree with your perspective as "stupid and dense?"
         
         GA

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            Credence2posted 7 years agoin reply to this

            GA, why would I not give the same credit for having forethought to Danny Glover or Meryl Streep that the Right wants me to give to Rush, O'Reilly or Hannity?
            
            The point is that I don't need to tell anyone to 'shut up'. It is a free country and I am not afraid of differing opinions, but obviously the Right is.
            
            I take some things back on Clint Eastwood, he is a conservative but not a rightwinger as I define same. I have seen Gran Torino, but liked him more in the speghetti westerns and as the shoot first ask questions later cop, Harry Callahan. Because, deep down we all wanted to see the bad guys get what they deserved.
            
            On another thread, I explained my use of 'dense and stupid' in regard to the rightwinger.

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      Don Wposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Did you call for TV celebrity Donald Trump to be quiet when he started spouting political opinions?
      
      Did you say his voicing of his political views was "adding to the divisiveness in America that one  ideology has been gifted a "louder voice" than all others"?
      
      No?
      
      Then you need to look up the word "hypocrisy" and think about what you are saying.

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         ahorsebackposted 7 years agoin reply to this

         We're talking candidate  vs. celebrity , mature up will you !

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            Don Wposted 7 years agoin reply to this

            Trump was not a candidate in the 80s and 90s when he publicly commented on politics. And he was not a candidate in 2011 when he suggested President Obama was not born in the United States. Did you say he should "be quiet"? Did you say he was "adding to the divisiveness in America"?
            
            No, I didn't think so.
            
            Again, look up the word "hypocrite" and try thinking about what you are saying. It really makes a difference.

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               ahorsebackposted 7 years agoin reply to this

               Hillary started and played out  the  birther thing , Trump is  yours and my  president today , like it  or not .   Hollywood  can't even decide who gets the  damned trophy and you let them to tell you how to vote ?

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                  Don Wposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                  Trump publicly expressed his views on politics throughout the 80s and 90s.
                  
                  Doesn't matter who started the birther nonsense. Trump publicly expressed his view on it when he was a celebrity TV presenter.
                  
                  According to your standard he should have been "quiet" about politics throughout that time.
                  
                  So are you saying Trump was wrong to voice his opinions about politics before he became a candidate, because he was "adding to the divisiveness in America"?

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                     ahorsebackposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                     Don , This is  the now and  Now  Trump is the President , I suggest that  the left get used to no voice in congress , the house or the white house for .....Oh  eight years or so .

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                        Credence2posted 7 years agoin reply to this

                        Your man is a jerk, horsey, he will never last for 8 years....

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                           ahorsebackposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                           
                           
                           And here is the left's  best attempt at compromise ?

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                           ahorsebackposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                           Somebody write this down -  losers can't be choosers  ..

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                        Don Wposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                        If you think it was fine for Trump to publicly express his political opinion as a celebrity, but not for current celebreties to do the same, then you are in fact being hypocritical.
                        
                        I'm sorry if you don't like that, but I am only applying YOUR standard in a thread YOU created to tell everyone about that standard.
                        
                        As for influence in government. The Bannon administration can't do anything the next Democratic president and Congress can't reverse. So it's just a matter of trying to limit the damage done in the meantime. When Bannon's reign is over, the Democrats will have a lot of clearing up to do, but it wouldn't be the first time a Democratic president has had to clear up after a Republican one, and I'm certain it won't be the last.

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                           wildernessposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                           That's cute, how it has become "Bannon's administration" and Bannon's reign".  Not as cute as my little granddaughter, but cute.

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                              Don Wposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                              Call it what you like. Doesn't make it any less true.

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                           ahorsebackposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                           "Just another jester  with a loud microphone "  is  the normal reaction to Hollywood - except to the left apparently who bows at the very  existence of  those like Queen Meryl  and all her court?
                           There is no hypocrisy in pointing out the idiocy of the court   jesters pretending  to know how to lead..

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                           ahorsebackposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                           Right !........... Like I said , see you in eight years or so .
                           
                           Oh , did I mention to  you the leftists  lost the supreme courts  for a couple of decades  Don W ?

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                              Don Wposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                              The pendulum of politics swings from left to right. Always has.
                              
                              Only the young, naive or foolish are surprised by this. I'm guessing you don't fit into the first category. I'll leave you to decide which of the other two categories you fall into.

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                                 ahorsebackposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                                 "Young Naïve or foolish "  you just fundamentally described the disastrous failure of your entire party's  politics  Your pendulum - entirely dropped from the bell , dude .
                                 
                                 Yet ,   your own reflection fails to enlighten  even you .

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                                    Don Wposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                                    It seems you opted for foolish.

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      Stevennix2001posted 7 years agoin reply to this

      I have no problem if a celebrity wants to speak their mind on political issues, as long as they know what they're talking about.  Granted, I know that even an idiot that doesn't has the right to free speech, but in a celebrity's case, I think it's more important that they put themselves on a higher standard than the rest of us because a lot of people do look up to them.  If I were to say something about politics, movies or whatever, then nobody would freaking care.  The fact of the matter is I'm just an ordinary guy.  I can be ignored, or blown off because I'm a freaking nobody.  But if a celebrity says something that's similar to what I say or exactly the same?  It wouldn't matter if you agreed with that person or not, as people would blow up talking about it for ages.
      
      It would be all over the news and social media to the point that we'd all be talking about it at nauseum. 
      
      Like I said, I don't mind if celebrities want to speak their minds, as it's their constitutional right to do so.  However, I do think they have an obligation not just to themselves, but to their fans, to at least know what they're talking about before saying anything.  Whether we like it or not, a lot of kids are growing up looking up to those same celebrities, so if they say or do something that's ill advised, then it could impact one of their fans' perception of reality, which shouldn't be that way because you shouldn't be idolizing what a celebrity says and/or does to begin with, but most of today's youth do that.  Which is why they need to be held up to a higher standard of knowing what they're talking about before saying anything, as they do hold a lot of influence over people.

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         Kathryn L Hillposted 7 years agoin reply to this

         +1

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   FatFreddysCatposted 7 years ago

   Celebrities have as much right to share their empty headed "opinions" as any man on the street (or internet)....

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   Kathryn L Hillposted 7 years ago

   oh, they can express their opinions all they want. But we don't have to respect or like them ...
   as we might have otherwise.
   and we don't have to watch or pay for the movies they are in.
   I'll never see a another Meryl movie again.

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      ahorsebackposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      I have stopped watching so many liberal artists  , I may never see another movie .  I'm liking foreign films better anyway , sooo much more more talent there !

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         Kathryn L Hillposted 7 years agoin reply to this

         yes. When I was taking French, our teacher had us watching all sorts of great French movies (with subtitles.) I also used to watch Asian films which played in a theater in Petaluma, CA. In fact there are many interesting Asian TV shows which I find randomly while switching channels. They are more psychologically deep, realistic and truly humorous.

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            ahorsebackposted 7 years agoin reply to this

            Hi Kathryn ,I'm loving a lot of Brit , Irish , Scots films and series , even those "down under "and Canadian filmmakers are better than Hollywood .    Some of the actors [actress'} too.

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   Misery Churchposted 7 years ago

   i think it depends on who . if its someone that has warped morals maybe they should have to watch what they say. but in all reality we cant get celebrities to sign a contract telling them what to say because of "freedom of speech". if we could we would probably have a few more intelligent celebrities

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   ahorsebackposted 7 years ago

   There is something iffy about free speech when say ,  Madonna says- " I think about Going  out and  Blowing  up the White House "............That  draws a fine line between free speech and  sedition !
   I know what would happen today if I said " Blow up the white house "   , I would be arrested , detained , charged and tried  and incarcerated .

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      Stevennix2001posted 7 years agoin reply to this

      That's because she's famous and if she went to jail for saying that, then it would only make her look like a martyr standing up for free speech and whatnot.   Whereas you, you're a nobody and if you went to jail, then very few people would hear about it.

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         wildernessposted 7 years agoin reply to this

         Or it's because she's rich and famous, with emphasis on the "rich".  And could cause considerable political harm to anyone trying to arrest her.

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         ahorsebackposted 7 years agoin reply to this

         Sadly it continues to make these same celebrities  absolutely moronic .  And lose popularity ,   Ask yourself this , Why doesn't  anyone see the  same thing from the right ?   Because   the quietly spoken opinion of the right is far,  far more mature .  Fact !

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   ahorsebackposted 7 years ago

   The problem with the ideology on the left is that  you even listen to  and value celebrities opinions ,
   if the lemmings  of the left had no celebrity telling them what to collectively and politically  think , there would be little political thought at all there !
   Like starry eyed Kinder-gardener's  sitting before mickey mouse.

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      Credence2posted 7 years agoin reply to this

      I value everyone's opinion even though I don't always agree. But then that is where the Right is terrified and falls short, don't you think, Horse?

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         ahorsebackposted 7 years agoin reply to this

         One doesn't need the other opinions or directions if one has been down the same road before .
         And those on the right  know where this road goes .  That is the one fact of  political ideology that the left never learns .  Like lemmings over a cliff .

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            Credence2posted 7 years agoin reply to this

            That is what YOU say, just because you say it should I consider it gospel?

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               ahorsebackposted 7 years agoin reply to this

               Well, ..............yeeeaaa !

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