Liberals and History that Begins today ?

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    ahorsebackposted 20 months ago

    For liberals who's idea of History that began in 2017 !

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    colorfuloneposted 20 months ago

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  3. jonnycomelately profile image82
    jonnycomelatelyposted 20 months ago

    .......and ????

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      ahorsebackposted 20 months agoin reply to this

      Johnny , Liberal  conspiracy's  always end up the same ,    they think they  discovered poop on the political opponents with said poop only showing up on all their own faces .

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    crankaliciousposted 20 months ago

    It's kind of stunning how much you're missing the point that's being made. Nobody is complaining about a legitimate meeting with a foreign official.

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      ahorsebackposted 20 months agoin reply to this

      And you mean like ,  when foreign leaders even  meet  with political candidates  , not yet elected . Some advice ,  If you're one of the   liberal  "fact-finders "  and you start following conspiracy  trails of your opponent to dig dirt , you'd better clean the dirt  off your own  candidates first , that's My point !

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        jonnycomelatelyposted 20 months agoin reply to this

        Even better than digging dirt and getting it all over yourself, how about getting to know you supposed opponent(s), learning about some common needs, aspirations and objectives?
        For example, if you are conservative, talk with a liberal and vice versa.  If you are a capitalist, talk with a communist.  If you're religious, talk with the atheist. 
        Talk to listen and learn, not primarily to tell.
        Or is this all too difficult?

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          ahorsebackposted 20 months agoin reply to this

          Johnny , I'm amazed ! Your sounding more  and more like an activist conservative .  Right now however  , Trump is too busy sweeping up the pieces of Obama's mess'  ,  Obama Care - total failure ---- The complete Fiasco of the "Arab Spring "  began by Queen Hilary ------  The economic melt down began by the "Free cell phone "   strategies in  Obama-nomics ,etc.

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            jonnycomelatelyposted 20 months agoin reply to this

            I have no idea what an activist conservative sounds like, except that it's just one more instance of labelling in order to stir up hatred.
            Your rhetoric sounds very much like orchestrated bias, with wood-wind to the front of stage.
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          GA Andersonposted 20 months agoin reply to this

          Hello jonnycomelately,

          Sage advice. But, it is a real buzz killer for too many political discussion junkies.

          GA

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          ahorsebackposted 20 months agoin reply to this

          Apparently what an outsider like yourself doesn't get in your daily news "Down Under "; Is that  conservatives by nature are quiet , unassuming , intelligent , very informed and again --conservative !  AND by that , by being conservative , -you may at this point look up the definition yourself ,  -They -we, want less  from their  government ,  meaning  a smaller central government ,  less expensive , more efficient ,  unobtrusive in the liberties  and in pursuits of general happiness.

          In America , The opposite of conservative ideology Is considered  liberal  ideologies  , meaning in todays reality ,  "Gimme "....free everything - more government involvements in all phases of our lives , more taxation in all phases of our lives ,  meaning far  less liberty from central government .

          My mistake here  is trying to explain to you how "  Listening to Others "   as you suggest ;  Simply means acknowledging that  My ideology HAS TO GIVE more to  your ideology ,  more of what you want  - Free Stuff from taxation of others !

          So , No thank you .

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            jonnycomelatelyposted 20 months agoin reply to this

            I am fully hearing what you are saying and, to some extent agree with you.

            But my point is that you have categorised conservatives and liberals into two main camps, and tarred each one with a blanket assessment.  There is very little room to move in your arguments, because you seem to be very biased.  Can you see that there are so many different views with both those two main groups, thus it's unreasonable to have a strong anti- either side? 

            I see such biases as not conducive to more understanding, only to more and more rhetoric, more and more antagonism, more and more .... lack of understanding.

            Within the desire to provide welfare services to the poor is, ironically, a very "Christian" ethic.  Yet it's mainly conservative christians who want to see the back of welfare services.

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              ahorsebackposted 20 months agoin reply to this

              Wrong at the end  , right in the beginning Jonny .    Conservative government and it's support populace has always supported  the philanthropies , the welfare programs  ,The work programs ,  the Social securities  , the  guaranteed minimum wages , even the Stimulus packages !  It isn't these or the   social services that we oppose ,  it is the manifest entitling  of them to all classes of the population  BY the NEW LIBERAL America . THAT is where the two ideologies  differ .   
              Pretty simple.

              All of the rhetoric that you and I involve ourselves in is just that ;end zone   rhetoric , the compromise is in the working houses of government ,      Although  in general , liberal ideologies have  advanced in recent years  at a quickened pace.  Until now .

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    psycheskinnerposted 20 months ago

    As my boss says, talk to anyone you like, just don't sell them the farm.

 
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