My unbiased description is this: liberals turn to government to solve their problems. Conservatives turn to business to solve their problems.
so one is conservative when wall street booms and liberal when economy gets blown away
A conservative is a person who votes to help themselves, Liberals are people who vote to help others, the first is not necessarily a bad thing.
(people will probably swarm on this and say poor people vote liberal to get more assistance for themselves etc but the fact is liberal voters are on average 6% wealthier)
Just saw this question...no one answered??? I'll try
Conservatives believe in tradition..holds to ideas and thoughts already established. Conservatives dislke change, can sometimes accept if it is gradual. Most conservatives have deep racial viewa, but will not admit it. Conservatives believe in the "status quo"..traditional policies (old 40's views on marriage and family. Conservatives are slow moderate thinkers, cautious and suspicious of abrupt change.
Liberals are free thinkers. polar opposite of conservatives. The political views of liberals are governed by the constitution (conservatives usual claim this, but they don't care about constitutional rights). Liberals are broad minded, tolerant and believe in progress (remember conservatives don't like change) Liberals want to protect your civil rights and are proponents of individual freedoms from restraint.
Maybe you've heard this..."Liberals fall in love, conservatives fall in line."
Liberals would never have belittled Bristole Palin for being pregnant out of wed lock...like Sara claimed....but conservatives would have.
That's like the satirical version of what a liberal thinks the difference is.
Have to agree with that. This partisanship is not helping in the least, however. Gotta say I think time and energy would be better spent figuring out solutions, not fighting label wars.
GOP is not willing to figure out solutions. They want Obama gone. Period. That's their solution to everything, and they govern accordingly.
Partisanship? It's psychopathy!
Obama being gone would be an excellent start, LMC. Perhaps, come November, we'll get the "hope" and "change" this country really needs.
I'm not 100% happy with Romney but anyone would be better than Barack Hussein Obama.
I "hope" Barack Hussein Obama looses and any kind of "change" would be better than what he has in mind for this country.
Indeed. Take the bully-pulpit catalyst outta the way, and there may be hope for bringing America back to its Constitution.
I voted for Obama....it would have been very American of your side to let those like me have our 4 years.
As it is, certain people care squat about anything except having their way. All the time, 24/7.
100% or nothing. How is that American?
Come on, LMC. Think about it.
What were you doing BESIDES saying the exact same things about Bush during his time in office?
You were probably raising $900 worth of hell about Bush just like I'm doing about Barack Hussein Obama.
I'm not going sit back and watch Barack Hussein Obama tear down this country any more than I expect you did when Bush was in office.
You want 100% or nothing. Obama wants 100% - period. How is that American? It's not and you know that, too.
This is very true!
Remember when Jamie Lynn Spears got pregnant as a teen? Whooo--there was outrage! And not only at her, but at her parents, for "letting" it happen.
Suddenly, when Bristol is pregnant, she's a hero for not aborting the pregnancy, and Sarah is the best mom in the world for helping her daughter keep the kid!!
Blatant double standard.
PJ, this Conservative has no problem with change as long as that change is within the U.S. Constitution.
It's when the Liberals, Progressives, and Socialists like Obama try to shred our Constitution and change our form of government into a Socialist state that Conservatives don't like change.
Longhunter do you know what a Socialist is? A lot of people don't know that a Socialist is someone who does not believe in owning land. All land is owned by the government. A socialist society distributes goods and pay according to work done..but like I said don't own land. Obama is not a Socialist. I don't know any Socialist, everyone I know wants to own property....do you?
I can tell from your descriptions that you are very tolerant of others views, the tolerance just oozes from you.
Freethinkers, thats too funny.
None. Liberals are not liberal and conservatives are not conservative. They are both big spending tyrannical war machines and will kill us all gradually if we don't get out of this false dichotomy.
The dichotomy is true!
For instance, the biggest anti-war pol I can think of is Dennic Kucinich. For all of his career, he's advocated a Dept of Peace instead of a Dept of War.
He wanted to bring impeachment hearings on Bush AND Obama.
BUT-- he is also pro-choice, and an advocate for stronger gun laws....something the Right will never tolerate.
Ergo--one who wants to end war but has other political views that are un-tenable to many.
Same for Ron Paul. He's anti-war, but also anti-choice, and anti-regs....un-tenable to many.
The dichotomy is true.
All you've proven is that there is an anti-war politician on each side, it's hardly a telling statement on the supposed dichotomy. Both sides support war, regulation (to varying degrees), the police state, drugging our children, heavy spending and the destruction of education. The 'choice' debate is a huge distraction from the real bi-partisan evils the American government come up with, and intentionally so.
No they don't only certain people in each side do.
Just as many don't support those things.....but if you want to see who really gets their way: look here. It's very telling.
Biggest Donors to Congress:
Chamber of Congress. By a lot. Nearest competitor is 500,000 or something off. Can't find the link! Open secrets, posted it yesterday, but haven't got time to find it.
Chamber of Congress
Liberals say that they want to steal your money and spend it on welfare
Conservatives say that they want to steal your money and go to war.
When they get into office, they both do both.
Easiest way to tell the difference? Question: Is it better to give a man a loaf of bread every day of his life, or to teach him how to make his own??
Libs: personal freedom, corporate regs.
Cons: corporate freedom, personal regs.
The major factor that has distinguished the liberals from the conservatives is the way that they interpret the constitution. It was liberal ideology that so loosely read the God granted fact that "All men are created equal". Thus they liberally interpreted the constitution in order to legalize slavery, Jim crow, woman's suffrage and so on.
The conservative approach to the constitution was to take literally the fact that all men are created equal, and make that the law. This ideology came to the forefront of the battle over slavery during the civil war when conservative president Abraham Lincoln declared unequivocally that the people who so liberally interpreted the constitution in regards to freedom were wrong.
This form of liberalism was what separated the country in ideology and it continues as liberals loosely (or liberally) interpret the constitution by abusing the commerce clause, and the general welfare clause in the constitution, and using tax money to benefit special interest groups, instead of the general public. They have liberally, and loosely distorted the words;
life, with the exception of unwanted babies
Liberty, by advocating slavery and segregation
The pursuit of happiness, through the advocacy of wealth redistribution
And the biggest contradiction of all as the very title of our nations declaration of independence is stifled through welfare policies which create dependence on the state.
"The pursuit of happiness, through the advocacy of wealth redistribution"
For the past 40 years there has been a great "wealth redistribution" from the poor and middle class to the greediest and richest Americans, thanks to de-regulation, tax loopholes big enough to drive a truck through, and globalization.
And yet America has the biggest middle class the world has ever seen, despite the liberal agenda of enslavement to the government. Corporations are a thousand times more responsible with their money than the government ever could hope to be, just look at the deficit.
When it comes to Liberals, pictures are a good thing, Onusonus. But, since it's got some pretty big words within it, most of them won't get it.
Well I don't want to be too condescending, I helped convert a liberal last week through some sound discussion, logical reasoning, and the political rantings of Alfonzo Rachel.
Now that you've converted a Liberal to Conservatism, someone with a big sword will try to cut your head off!!!!
Oh, nope, I'm sorry. That would be a totally different conversion.
AAAAACK! And I'm sure all his friends will be labeling him an uncle tom too. But once a person is hooked on reality they just don't go back...
A liberal is a conservative who talks about freedom.
Both are politically bankrupt.
A Conservative is one that wants everyone to have the opportunity to pursue their dreams, unfettered by the shackles of an oppressive form of government.
Some Liberals are too lazy to dream for themselves much less do the hard work to turn them into reality. They find it easier to live off the hard work of others.
It's interesting that it's said that conservatives resist change when fiscal conservatives favor an economic system whose explicit intended purpose is to foster innovation and reward new ideas--in short, to speed change along.
REAL fiscal conservatives, anyway. I realize the current GOP falls well short of that ideal.
That's a conservative estimate! The mouth breathers aren't anywhere that close.
MOUTH BREATHERS? Is that what Liberals are called now? I like it. Thanks, Deeds. I'll just call liberals 'mouth breathers' from now on. Well, among other things, of course.
Mouth breather=Tea Bagger=ignorant Red Neck Thumper.
Man, somebody woke up on the wrong side of the bed this morning!!!
Tea-Tards, N*mb-N*ts, Koch-a-Mamies, Bagger-Bots, I-Got-Mines.
WOW, LMC!!! I see you woke up in a good mood!!!
I usually just refer to the other side as "Liberals" and that's insulting enough. I do sometimes put the word "damn" in front of it. That's after seeing someone who's stupid enough to have a Obama 2012 sticker on their car and right before I won't let them merge into traffic.
I have noticed I haven't seen anywhere near as many Obama stickers this time as I did last time.
That looks just like a guy I work with and he's flaming LIBERAL!!!!!!!!
Please don't tell me you've spent the last hour Google searching for "Mouth Breather" photos.
Sounds like a biased opinion to me. Liberals (like me) wish government didn't need to solve many of the problems that businesses create.
Conservatives like to complain about regulations. Regulations are created because businesses won't stop at anything for a profit.
Conservatives don't want healthcare reform. Only rich people can afford medical treatment, EVEN WITH INSURANCE.
Conservatives want to stop the EPA from protecting the environment. Maybe they should remember, we have nowhere else to go if you destroy the Earth.
The biggest difference is in the spelling of the two words.
Conservatives hurt the poor by keeping wages down.
Liberals hurt the poor through rampant inflation, ensuring that those low wages are worth less every day.
Conservatives hurt the poor by moving jobs overseas.
Liberals hurt the poor through enablement programs that reward complacency and punish desire to be self sufficient.
Conservatives hurt the poor by being stingy toward good government programs.
Liberals hurt the poor by being stingy toward charity.
When their powers combine, they are: Captain Income Inequality!
Nah, it's a Give-me-it-All lady finger, washed down with an It's-never enough Martini.
3:00 O'clock tea-time for the Bagger-Bots.
Thurston, wind me up....
ahhhhhhh, thank you dahling!
Awww, how sweet!!
"Sen. Johnson (R-WI) advice to women who can’t afford contraception: Google "what if I can’t afford birth control?"
Dahling, the riff-raff know how to google!
We MUST make sure they don't figure out Ball-Room dancing. Heaven forfend!
Fertilized egg and Johnny....I now pronounce you man and wife.
Don't you dare touch that sperm!
....but go ahead and shoot to kill that kid with the Hoodie....you KNOW he's not one of us.
Over and Out.
I have Righty Derangement Syndrome....too much for one day. The brilliance and compassionate humanity just too much to take.. s n a r k
"....but go ahead and shoot to kill that kid with the Hoodie....you KNOW he's not one of us."
The impression I'm getting here is you think Conservatives don't have a problem with Trayvon Martin getting killed. Am I correct in that impression, LMC?
I'm afraid too many Conservatives don't have a problem with it. They aren't all rational beings like you Longhunter.
Thank you, John, but not all here on HP would agree with you on me being rational. However, I do have a permit to carry and do know the laws for such here in TN.
I'm getting the impression LMC is painting ALL Conservatives with the same brush and, frankly, she's wrong, if that's the case. She certainly doesn't like it if I do the same with ALL liberals. I've talked to some Liberals that are on Zimmerman's side but they seemed uninformed about the case or the law.
My point is to look at the law. I've admitted I don't know FL's laws in this case but here in TN, Zimmerman would've been arrested.
He pursued Martin but he's not a LEO. If he had not pursued Martin and just called the police, letting them handle it, there's a good chance Martin would still be alive.
First chance I get, I'll look into FL handgun carry laws.
Obviously I can't speak for LMC but I do understand how people can slip into generalisations when trying to be brief. It not really excusable but it is understandable.
I do have a problem with those who think Zimmerman's actions were entirely justifiable. They seem to excuse his actions by claiming that Martin attacked him, even if he did,it was not without much provocation.
"Florida's Stand Your Ground law allows deadly public force if authorities or individuals fear assailants pose serious threats. The law and others like it in 20 or more states expand the so-called Castle Doctrine."
""In criminal law, (it's) an exception to the retreat rule. The retreat rule allows a person the use of deadly force while protecting his/her place of abode, its premises and its inhabitants from attack such as from a trespasser who intends to commit a felony or inflict serious bodily injury or harm.""
Conservative logic - we can afford war with Russia and Iran but can't afford "Obamacare"
With the first, we're kicking someone else's ass.
With the second, we're kicking our own.
Just thought I would get your blood pumping this morning, LMC. Good morning!!!
I always felt that liberals were the ones who tend to take it easy, while conservatives strategize and plan out their moves with precision they have mastered after years of conserving energy and resources.
IRAN ALL NIGHT AND DAY.
Perhaps conservative logic, at the most rudimentary form, is nothing more than this: CONSERVE life, conserve resources, conserve the moment... While a liberal's logic, at the most rudimentary form, is liberation (from what it is that you long to liberate yourself from).
If Obama cared, do you think that there would be a warm home for every American to come home to at the end of the day?
Quite frankly, I stopped believing and caring for the wellbeing of polyticks and leeches, the day the towers fell; thus the words "liberal" and "conservative" have no place in a polytickal arena, dog and pony show, beauty pageant, etcetera.
Moreover, if there are people whom look at people as merely nothing more than a conservative or a liberal then they may as well be nothing more than numbers. We as a unified world could even give these numbers out to people with social security cards, and have them believe in an elaborate system like social security and the belief that Man's government is capable of lasting or working.
In the name of the machine program known as Alpha and Omega,
Lib: "I'm so tired of lazy billionaires getting rich off government welfare and tax breaks. They need to pull themselves up by the bootstraps."(DC Debbie)
Con: "Just because my family is rich, and I grew up with the best of everything doesn't mean I had any advantages."
Con: "Imagine having a dead baby inside you, now imagine being forced to carry that dead baby to term against your will."
Lib: Over my dead body....and people ARE killed trying to stop this tyranny!
...once upon a time, liberal meant conservative and conservative meant liberal...that ought to tell you something about humanity, and that is what needs to be looked at...where's the unity,, why do egos have to be allowed to take charge instead of loving each other
Mitt Romney declared that Pres.Obama was going to start a new religion called
"seculiarism". Lawrence O'Donnell responded on his show with the following:
Mormonism was created by a guy in upstate New York in 1830 when he got caught having sex with the maid and explained to his wife that God told him to do it. Forty-eight wives later, Joseph Smith�s lifestyle was completely sanctified in the religion he invented to go with it, which Mitt Romney says he believes.
There was a big back lash for this comment forcing O'Donnell to apologize to the Mormon community. But Lawrence noticed, no one objected to the notion of President Obama secretly plotting a new religion. Is it because we are used to "nasty" untrue comments about our President? Or maybe it's not a bad idea?
If Romney were to select Jeb Bush for VP, then we would know we are in for a sea change.
Obama never wanted 100%. he is always willing an open to suggestions. And I for one, would like to see his ideas implemented, instead of blocked. Do you know, there is a jobs bill he approved, that has been sitting in the House since last September?
He nixed the public option because he knew the R's would never go for it.
Gave them Bushtaxcuts III in exchange for money for the unemployed...lost Van Jones, gave a speech to prove he was not a racist thanks to Fox and friends and the media's obsession with Rev Wright.
Heck...he even agreed to 10 dollars in cuts to one dollar in increased taxes....even that was not good enough for them.
Forget it....they are not Americans IMO--they are Me-Icans. Me Me Me Me Me Me Me.
And if the Me-Icans win this election, I'm Swedish.
Oh, I'll still live here, and pay taxes to the gvt. But I will not recognize it.
my life: Nixon, Ford, Reagan, Reagan, Bush Bush Bush....Enough.
Especially when my optimism was dashed about 2 weeks into my choice's reign.
If we dont have a system of fairness.....what use is it?
We elected Obama...we deserve 4 years of Obama! NOT 3 years of fighting to be respected!~
The respect should already be there from you supposed "constitution" people.
Instead, we get a concerted effort to block my vote. Fehhhh. Call me when my vote counts.
I could say a lot here, LMC, but it would only serve to cause a huge argument.
I'll just say we'll have to agree to disagree and leave it at that.
OK...just don't say a word when I call names at the R's.
That's all Obama has been subject to since day one. And I hope someday, an R pres is treated as such ish by others in gvt. Then maybe they will see.
Hey RMoney....you hate women don't you? Yeah....he has a deep-seated hatred for women....I can tell cause you know....I cry.
Now let me get on National TV and repeat it. Oh and RMoney.....you are not really an American are you? Not really a Christian are you? Not really born here are you?
PROVE it! and no matter what you say---I reserve the right to call you a LIAR....in front of the world.
The only things I've called Obama are the worst president in my lifetime, possibly the history of this country, and an idiot. Both apply and far worse than some names called Bush when he was in office.
There may be more but none have referred to his heritage as that's not why I dislike any person. I know which one's you're referring to, they're racist, and I haven't used them.
IMHO, his only redeeming qualities are he seems to be a good husband and father. I don't think he believes in the Constitution or is an American in his heart thus I don't want him as president.
A conservative uses feathers
A liberal uses the whole chicken
Oh...no,that's perverts huh?
well...kinda the same thing if you think about it...
I don't like labels - I don't like being labeled. All this Conservative vs Liberal vs Moderate vs Radical is babble. I contend that no one is totally Conservative on each and every issue, neither are they totally Liberal, Moderate, nor Radical on each and every issue. An honest person would admit that their "label" changes from time to time. Anyone who denies that is a bit hypocritical, don't you think?
Being labeled one of the big four is confining and restrictive. Hey, maybe therein lies the problem?
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