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The Constitution’s Power For We The People

  1. The0NatureBoy profile image44
    The0NatureBoyposted 6 months ago

    With so many of We The People being dissatisfaction with the government of these Dis-United States of America why don’t we do something about it? Are not the remedies in the Constitution as the supreme law of this land since it makes the governors “Trustees” of We The People and subjects them to our dictates? Don’t we know the U.S. Constitution’s providing power to the people came from the very religious natives of this land so let us look at what Peter called “Religion Undefiled” will do for a nation. Christianity as practiced is not "undefiled" we should realize because its people are not "in the likeness of Christ" as the name implies.

    In Revelation 6:2 first seal unsealed we are told, “I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer”, the “horse” represents European intent on conquering the world who pretended to desire peace, “olive branch”, but used war, “bow”, first and followed it with the “crown” or knowledge of Christianity. Most who came to the “new land” had rejected the king’s tyranny but arrived under the watchful eye of the king’s army. With independent and preparing to write their constitution they enlisted the knowledge of the peaceful “New Landers” and came away with a first draft denouncing slavery per the preamble’s “more perfect Union”. However, those desiring to be tyrants would not join the nation if that happened and a compromise produced what it was before the resent un-amended eliminations. Thus, after 239 years since the writing of the Constitution the U.S. Government has become what the Preamble clearly states it intended to prevent, a divided tyrants governing nation.

    The Preamble tells its readers what the entire document intends to achieve. It begins with “We The People of the United States” which means every man of both genders who came to, was brought to or born in this nation without exception because of what Article 6:1 states; “This constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof, and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing, in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary not withstanding.” The phrase “and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof” includes everything written in the Constitution after the preamble that's not in harmony with the preamble’s intent is invalid.

    Also Article 6:3 reads “The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executives and judicial Officers shall be bound by an Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.” That reveals how all elected or appointed official of sate or federal governments are “Trustees” of the people and subject to the People’s Impeaching of any failing to keep their oath, including Presidents with "all executives and judicial Officers" being said.

    Today there're governmental parties that do not adhere to the demands of The People prohibiting “perfecting the Union” along with divided genders, ethnics divisions, divided wealth and many other divisions. We have 6 Supreme Court Justices who by saying “money is speech” denied We The People’s right to impeach “Bribe receivers” and other crime committers. We have congress breaking the Constitution by not going against their parties’ dictate because of protecting secrets that disallowed them to Impeach presidents Bush, Obama and Trump for 9/11’s Treason by Government agencies.

    Another example of the government refused to protect the constitution is Article 1.8’s guidelines for taxing in paragraph 1 reading, “The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United states.” Yet with the president's signature they make exceptions for corporations by charging reduced taxes supposedly for ensuring the American People have jobs while corporations outsource the jobs to “slave labor” allowing nations leaving the nation with high unemployment and underpaid employees. Then in Article 1.8.5 we find congress is “To coin Money, regulate the value thereof, and of foreign Coin …” but have given coining the United States’ money to the “Deep State” government that controls most of the world’s money. In turn, the nation borrows what it is supposed to produce and pay interest on what’s supposed to be We The People’s money. It was obvious since now the money states it is a “Federal Reserve Note” printed for the United States of America and that began happening in the early 19 teens.

    Although We The People observe these things we have not studied the Constitution to see what can be done about it. Therefore I suggest read the above link and do what the Constitution and Declaration of Independence demands of We The People. Doesn’t the Bible suggest, as I am paraphrasing, that we are to “subject ourselves to the power that be” since God ordained it? It does say we who are “church” are to subject ourselves to the higher authority, which is God, but since god ordained the social order we are to live harmoniously with them also. If we live harmoniously with them then why don’t we control our government as god wills it?

    1. Kathryn L Hill profile image78
      Kathryn L Hillposted 6 months agoin reply to this

      … because we do not all agree on what exactly the will of God is.

      1. Castlepaloma profile image75
        Castlepalomaposted 6 months agoin reply to this

        I know how to make God laugh.

        Tell him my plans.

        1. The0NatureBoy profile image44
          The0NatureBoyposted 6 months agoin reply to this

          Since I am a messenger of God to the people god is laughing at  you for not adhering to it, Castlepaloma.

      2. The0NatureBoy profile image44
        The0NatureBoyposted 6 months agoin reply to this

        The will of god is written in the Constitution's Preamble, meaning "what the entire document intends to achieve", concerning governing this nation. Because it begin with We The People it automatically gives the power to the people to be governed.

        Concerning the way of living for each individual Isaiah 45:7 tells us by saying "I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things" that god's will is whatever the individual does and desire. Thus, if We The People desire this nation to be governed "by [we] the people, of [we] the people and for [we] the people" then we should get into it and do what it tells "We The People" to do, oversee how the governors governs which is god's will since god inspired it's being written.

        1. Paul Winngert profile image61
          Paul Winngertposted 6 months agoin reply to this

          Funny. No where in our Constitution do you see the word "God", "Bible" or "Jeses". Our Constitution is very secular. So you're the self appointed  "messenger of God". Keep your delusions to yourself.

          1. Kathryn L Hill profile image78
            Kathryn L Hillposted 6 months agoin reply to this

            This conclusion is totally false. There is proof for my belief, but that may be for another thread.

          2. The0NatureBoy profile image44
            The0NatureBoyposted 6 months agoin reply to this

            Those terms are not written in the constitution, I agree PW, but as the "self appointed" messenger of god it is my responsibility to share the message and let the rejectors reject it, skeptics doubt it and accepters obey it.

    2. Kathryn L Hill profile image78
      Kathryn L Hillposted 6 months agoin reply to this

      … because WE are not one voice or opinion or force. Politicians get away with whatever they want. They have the power. They have the power because they bothered to become "public servants" …   

      ah ha hha !!!

      sad Liars.

      1. The0NatureBoy profile image44
        The0NatureBoyposted 6 months agoin reply to this

        That is exactly what the problem is, we are dis-united in every possible way therefore we don't see the actual enemy is the U.S. Government.

  2. Kathryn L Hill profile image78
    Kathryn L Hillposted 6 months ago

    I am PO'ed right now. All I want, I cannot have… so why was I created … just to want what I cannot have?


    "Is that fair?" I ask in great dismay!

    The question is, what are we ALLOWED to want? What does God allow us to want?
    Freedom? Survival skills? The time to pursue talents and passions (as far as wholesome and beneficial creativity)?
    Oh sure, the Constitution says that God gave us the right to want and have all those things…


    But is that at all realistic in the light of life on earth?
    Humph sad

    1. The0NatureBoy profile image44
      The0NatureBoyposted 6 months agoin reply to this

      KLH,
      We are allowed to want whatever comes into out minds, the question is are we allowed to obtain it. The answer to that is "not always", some things you have not incarnated enough to properly deal with some desires. An example. In the early 80s I was in New Your City where I made a statement that caused a boy asked me a question I almost answered but spirit said he is not prepared for the answer so I declined to answer it. For over a year he continued to ask for the answer and at last spirit said give it to him. From that day until I left in '84 I never saws him sober again. For the same reason man-en-mass are not qualified to become enlightened, the weight of it would break them as he was broken from an answer he had not been prepared to receive.

      Desire is a major part of being man, "human" or "woman" - the latter two are defined as "incomplete man unable to comprehend all things" - whole man has begin uniting one's yin to yang within themselves so most desires are for understanding life, the physical ones are needs but the man will know it is not always time to receive them so continue to desire but without being obsessed.

      Freedom and survival skills are interchangeable but man-en-mass aren't willing to pay the price mom living like alter life on earth with each individual producing what they need when they need it and finding food growing. One has to become a slave to freedom like we generally are to goods, pleasure and stuff or it is not obtainable.

      As for the realistic, it depends whether one is in their last incarnation of being enlightened. That's hinged on one knowing their destiny which one must obtain from within self called "self aware, enlightened and saved". What people call god is our own life-force and it is from there all answers to life resides and all of our incarnations prepare us for reaching that destiny. Thus, those answers lie within you.

  3. Kathryn L Hill profile image78
    Kathryn L Hillposted 6 months ago

    If a politician does not believe in God and lies in regards to their intentions, we are doomed. The system cannot work.

    1. The0NatureBoy profile image44
      The0NatureBoyposted 6 months agoin reply to this

      True, is why The People are given Impeachment rights over them, per Amendment 10, after the states who are doing the same as the federal government. The working of the system is for the disgruntle people because governors violate the Constitution to eliminate any and all officials, from President to police and lawyers, in violation of the Supreme Law's intentions.

      That will work if We The People do our part and is why I began this thread.

  4. Kathryn L Hill profile image78
    Kathryn L Hillposted 6 months ago

    "If we live harmoniously with them then why don’t we control our government as god wills it?"


    Why do you not capitalize the first letter of the word god?
    It shows reverence.
    If you are not referring to God who are you referring to?


    1. If the People are not on the same page as far as following God's will, (whatever that might be,) what do you think can happen as far as what you believe?

    You should get on a jet plane and go to Washington DC, to the Capital Building, and visit your state senator's open office.  You don't even have to make an appointment … they are happy to talk to a fellow citizen.

    Go for it, Nature Boy!

    1. The0NatureBoy profile image44
      The0NatureBoyposted 6 months agoin reply to this

      We are to live harmoniously with the governors as long as they are producing what the Supreme Law demands, that is the will of god. However, god knew the people would not until "the son of man" come to show them the what the document intends and is using it as the means to bring about the events for terminating this civilization.

      First the "son of man" will bring peace (Rev. 7:1-3) for the sealing of those required to survive the coming end (Rev.16:15-16) then give it back to the world so what is today termed World War 3 that Revelation 16:13-14 calls "the battle of that great day of god almighty" for terminating.

      I capitalize god out of past habit, sometimes I do and others I don't.

      When referring to god I am referring to the "supreme" life-forces within every thing in existence from matter to man. Like in our bodies, our life-force is supreme and its god but the various origins, tissues, and all other organisms in it are subjected to that life-force and once it has left without returning all of the other life-forces leave their incarnations until there is only a pile of dust reming; meaning we are god and all life-forces within us can be controlled by that life-force once it has become what is called "enlightened". We are organisms of the "zeroverse" and subjected to it which will either heal our individual life-force [for everlasting life] or leave it for us to discarnate and continue reincarnating until it heals it.

      1. The first two paragraphs explains that.

      No, everyone in Congress, every department head, CIA, FBI and President are controlled because of "skeletons in their closets" is why the "Deep State" whispers to them to run for office, they have impeachment goods on then by which to control them, so they don't want totally to me [except maybe 1 or two I would not know which].

      I have sent an "Notice of Impeachment" [Notarized by “Tyler Walker, Notary Republic of DC” Commission Expires 2/14/2021, Received in DOJ’s MRU on fax no. 1-301-341-0772 at 01:58 PM 5/26/1017] to Jeff Session who will also  become impeachable if he doesn't do something about it before the end of the year. I've went for it.

  5. Kathryn L Hill profile image78
    Kathryn L Hillposted 6 months ago

    Thank you for your response, TNB.
          So, you say we are not allowed to obtain all things. Interesting. Only that which Karma allows.
    I feel that karma-wise, I am entitled to much, but people, society, politicians seem to be huge tide I swim against. Why is this world such a harsh place? Have I contributed to it in some way in either this or some past life? I certainly never meant to create harshness of any type whatsoever in this life! Maybe I was negligent on some level. Maybe I have been or am complacent. Hmmmm….
     
    complacent adjective
    smug, self-satisfied, self-congratulatory, self-regarding, conceited; gloating, triumphant, proud; pleased, satisfied, content, contented.

    I am kind of an ego-addict.
    (Is this TMI?)




    .

    1. The0NatureBoy profile image44
      The0NatureBoyposted 6 months agoin reply to this

      Yes, KLM, "Only that which Karma allows."

      If you feel you are entitled to more then you need to contact your "higher self" for directions of how to obtain it. From very early childhood I questioned what was my purpose for being and overtime I asked it that way I had a repeated "nightmare" which I have at this point lived. I have said many thing like "I want to be as free as a deer" which I have been...
      MAN THE SUPERIOR

      My rights as a life are taken from me
      since the superior being I am said to be,
      but restrictions were added which I'm to obey
      such as spoken boundaries in which to stay.

      A deer can enter Canada or cross the Rio Grande
      but I can't without ID and money because I am man.

      Birds fly where they will and shit on our head and hand
      But for me to defecate I must hide because I am man.

      It's called incest if man mate with sister or brother
      while other animals go on to mate with father or mother.

      Deer and rabbits eat from gardens, squirrels from any tree
      but if fulfill our body's needs in jail is where we'll be.

      How, then, am I superior to the other animals as a slave so true,
      staying where you say and working not for me but for you.
      I come when you speak, leave at your word, and shit where and when you say!
      Yet I'm superior with limited going and from where to eats, sleep or stay?
      ... and many other things I'm expecting to soon achieve. It was my god's knowing my destiny which caused me to want them and my willingness to surrender my fleshly desire to god's control that I have and is in the process of obtaining them. Thus, you are your hinderer, to obtain it we must "swim against the tide" to show our willingness to do it.

      The world is harsh because its the "trying our minds with fire to purifying them from the good/evil and other judgmental adjectives. Once we learn to accept all things as necessary we find the process to be easy: the purifying Flaming and cutting us from attachments Sword of Genesis 3:24. Those additions must be cut away from you.

      I do believe "this is" your "time!"

      PEACE

  6. Kathryn L Hill profile image78
    Kathryn L Hillposted 6 months ago

    Okay ... we have to swim against the tide!
    … starting out as minnows, ending up as sharks …
    Well, maybe more like dolphins. smile

    Thanks, TNB

    1. The0NatureBoy profile image44
      The0NatureBoyposted 6 months agoin reply to this

      I prefer to believe the dolphins but the ferociousness of the shark.

      You are most welcomed.

 
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