How long will it be before the flag will not be flown in public places?
Given the fact that America continues to adjust the various faces of our society to accomodate the complaints of a few (i.e. No prayer in school, Dropping Christmas, Taking In God We Trust from money, etc.), how long will it be before some groups asked that the flag be removed?
Hi, it will probably be a new world order flag, if one is allowed to be flown, so as not to offend anyone. I've been wishing people Merry Christmas & Happy Thanksgiving, but adding it's not meant to offend anyone.
Removing "God" from money is a no brainer. The United States is constitutionally a secular republic... no "God" allowed in government, including money. Prayers in public institutions are really contrary to the constitution.
But I don't imagine we will ever see flags not being flown in public for a while. I expect global warming effects will eventually overwhelm all governments and a collapse of civilization as we know it.
That will likely lead to military dictatorships and many little republics world-wide fighting for survival.
I think the flag will always be flown in front of government and military buildings. Just about all other countries do the same.
It will remain optional for private businesses and citizens.
Patriotism is a very dangerous thing if left unchecked Mr. Wayne. It is needed of course, and good for preserving cultures, traditions and so on.
Yet, when the government wants to get people to go die fighting a war for it then, it is on patriotism that they rely on. It doesn;t matter if the real reasons for war are monetary or otherwise - it is thorough patriotism that people are put to wear the army uniforms.
Laws infringing on your freedoms are passed the same way, by scaring people and telling them the country needs those laws.
Patriotism is a double-edged sword. If you know how to use it, great! If not, you can get hurt (not you personally Mr. Wayne, I am speaking in general).
seriously i hope never. i'm canadian but i respect the patriotism of the U.S. people and it would bother me a lot if your flag was not flown.
Butch:
I have to disagree with you. No where in the Constitution does it say that there is no God allowed in the government. If we wish to interpret anything in the Constitution in that manner...it is more likely to read that there is no goverment allowed in the church.
With regard to this question...isn't it just sad that we have to worry so much about offending people and being politically correct? I'm not sure where that piece of legislature is that says we are not allowed to hurt anyone's feelings, somehow I missed it in school. I will keep flying my flag because I believe in this country. We may not be looking so hot right now....but I believe in the dream.
Well, let's talk about it. "In God We Trust" became the US motto in the 1950s. Not a lot of history there, especially considering half the founding fathers were virtual atheists. To be fair, I think dropping "Christmas" is a terrible idea. Christmas is a religious holiday and I believe political correctness is poison that destroys intellect. Prayer in school is, and should be, decided on a local government level. As for the flag, I doubt that will ever go away. As the US declines into bankruptcy, I see more blind patriotism feeding our denial. I served my country and I don't care at all for bumper sticker patriotism. That's for people who feel guilty. There are two types of people I have learned never to trust: Those who invoke the name Jesus more than twice during a typical conversation and those who go over the top with patriotism and flags.
Much depends on who controls the power. If it's liberals then it will be within ten years, as liberals are very intent on reshaping the United States into a "global community." If conservatives control Congress then it will take longer. But it's inevitable that the American flag will be removed from public display. We're already seeing this in the private sector; the Supreme Court ruled that flag desecration is free speech; and other honored traditions are being done away with to accommodate minority interests. The American flag is next.
What's wrong with the flag to anyone? I'm a progressive atheist, and I don't have any problem with it. I've never heard of anyone with a problem with it. All nations have a flag. The other 3 examples you cited were about respecting everyone's right to worship as they please, which is spelled out explicitly in the Constitution of the United States. There's nothing in the constitution about flags. If we slapped a big "In god we trust" on it, then we'd have a problem.
Prayer in school, Christmas, and the money line are all violations of the founding documents of this country. The flag is not. Atheist progressive don't hate you or your way of life, at least not true atheist progressives. We're not here just to piss in your Cheerios. In fact it's our Cheerios that have received the most urination in the last 50 years by having god forced on us. It's the opposite of freedom to have religion forced on someone.
That's not to say that someone might decide for themselves not to salute the flag, or feel the need to respect it. On it's face though, the flag is not offensive in any way that I can think of.
I don't understand why it's become such a culture war to say "Happy Holidays" instead of "Merry Christmas". HH simply means your extending your best wishes to all cultures that call themselves American, whereas MC excludes about 30% of the population. I've no beef with Christmas. I celebrate it as a national holiday. Santa Claus isn't a religious figure, and nativity scenes that people put up in their yards are their personal choice. I don't begrude them their religious beliefs in the slightest.
I think there is the possibility of that happening Wayne, we have encountered similar complaints from the few; no Nativity plays in schools, no wearing a crucifix at work etc. During the world cup, I'm sure the St George flag had limits to where it was hung. It could happen that some minority voices offence to the sight of our national flags? Time will tell.
I wish that folks could learn to separate the flag and what it stands for from the politics of the moment.
This is America, love it today - hate it tomorrow, it is our country, built on a set of principals based on liberty and freedom.
The flag should be flown high and proud by people who believe in liberty and freedom.
If you disagree with the current hot topic of the month, or the current administration, it is no reason to turn your back on the flag.
i think old empresario said it best, i certainly couldn't have said it better myself kudos to him!!!!!!
I don't have a flag in front of my house, or on my car, but if there were a fight to take down the last standing American flag, I would be on the front lines making sure it stayed up.
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