Will you stand for right or just follow the party line?

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   glmclendonposted 11 years ago

   Will you stand for right or just follow the party line?

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   Dave Mathewsposted 11 years ago

   The "Right" and the only party line I will ever choose to follow, is the "Party Line" of my Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ.

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   pagesvoiceposted 11 years ago

   You have asked a very interesting question. You see, many people choose a particular party affiliation because they feel their party is the party that is doing/has the vision to do the right thing. So, in answer to your question..."yes" I will be standing with my party at election time due to my feeling they have the correct mindset for socioeconomic justice and equality.

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   tirelesstravelerposted 11 years ago

   It is very difficult to find out what anyone stands for here.  I know who I don't want to see elected, but knowing what's right is quite a chore.  I want to stand for right and will chuck the party line if need be.

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   nightwork4posted 11 years ago

   i stand for right and i always will. i'll never understand die-hard people who always chose the same party. if who i liked makes a mess or has bad members, i'm going to change my vote.

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   Michele Travisposted 11 years ago

   I would stand up for my rights.  We have seen they are being taken away slowly.  I also will stand up for Jesus Christ who died for our sins, and God our father. The One who created us.

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      swordsbaneposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Our rights aren't being slowly taken away.  They are being slowly given away by us.

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      Michele Travisposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      You are right, but more people need to vote. They need to contact the person running for office, and tell them why they are voting for or against them. More people need to research what the person running for office is doing. Not just watch tv.

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      Catherine Kaneposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      You're both right, because you're both saying that whether we keep our rights or lose them depends on the actions we take, whether voting, running for office, or campaigning for equal/ better rights

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      Michele Travisposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      We can also use the computer to research the backgrounds of the people running for office. We can see what they have voted for or against. If they have lied to us. We can even  talk them on the phone, well local ones.

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   oceansiderposted 11 years ago

   Hi gl,
   I am standing for right, oh very definitely....and what that means to me, is choosing a candidate for president who adheres to the same beliefs as I do, who is against abortion, against gay marriage, against taking prayer out of school, against teaching our school children that marriage can be between the same sex, and I could go on & on, but I won't.
   I know that you are a Christian because I've read your hubs, and would like to read more of them too!  Thank you for always standing firm in your faith gl, and for sharing your faith with others.
   I am standing firmly in Christ Jesus my Lord and Savior, my Rock and "I shall not be moved"!
   God bless you,
   Helen

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   feenixposted 11 years ago

   Personally, I always "just follow the party line."
   
   You see, I am a card-carrying member of the Republican Party, and in my opinion, the U.S. is far better off when there is a Republican in the White House and when the Republicans hold majorities in both houses of Congress.
   
   Or, I could say, My following the Republican-Party line translates to my doing the right thing.

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      swordsbaneposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      I feel sorry for you.

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      Michele Travisposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      I feel sorry for all of us

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   Attikosposted 11 years ago

   Some people believe that following the party line is what's right. Their view of it is that the people can't know enough to make good political decisions, so a ruling clique of inside operators is essential, and you have to choose one and go with it.
   
   I'm not one of them. I like it better when congress is gridlocked and the president is a deranged ignoramus to whom no one listens, which fortunately is the usual case. We're safer when the government is neutered by internal conflict.

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    Julie Fletcherposted 11 years ago

    If by standing for what's right you mean standing up for basic human rights- yep. I'm all for getting rid of all 'isms' from sexism to racism to bashingism to...well, you get it.
    
    For everyone that's wanting some god-fearing President and religious governing...think on this...
    
    As soon as religion is in government, government will be IN religion. Most churches can't agree on what the Bible means, how it should be interpreted. Do you really and truly want Big Brother in your church?
    
    It's fine and dandy to want Christians as leaders. That is your right. Just be very careful in the rights these politicians gain, anyone can lie and pretend to be religious to get a vote. The next rights up for voting could very well be determining which religion will be the National one.

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       Dubuquedogtrainerposted 11 years agoin reply to this

       I don't think either candidate is going to lead us down a road to protecting and preserving our rights.

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       Catherine Kaneposted 11 years agoin reply to this

       I think that having a religious person in  the White House is fine, as long as it's a religious person who respects the rights of all people, not just people on the same religious path as he is.
       I've found President Obama to be this kind of man

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       Dubuquedogtrainerposted 11 years agoin reply to this

       What the heck is a "religious person?" That phrase has no meaning. Does that mean someone who goes to church, says hail Mary's, goes to mass, tithes, what?

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       Catherine Kaneposted 11 years agoin reply to this

       actually Du, "religious person" is a reasonably good term meaning "one actively participating in a religious  discipline"
       If you want to break it down into those more specific sub sets, you can, but it said what I wanted, so I'm good

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       Dubuquedogtrainerposted 11 years agoin reply to this

       And what does "religious discipline" mean to you? (I don't really want to read your answer knowing now that you are a "professional psychic.") I'm now opting out of this discussion - I don't dialog with mediums.

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       Julie Fletcherposted 11 years agoin reply to this

       {sighs} Any person that follows ANY religion. A non-religious person does not follow any religion. I still think religion and government should be apart or the outcome will be bad for everyone.

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       Catherine Kaneposted 11 years agoin reply to this

       Hi Julie
       Think it depends. Many religions have tolerance of other paths as part of their values, and a lot of societal values are also religious values.
       If your religious values include honesty, compassion and tolerance, you'll be a great president

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       Julie Fletcherposted 11 years agoin reply to this

       Hi Catherine, I was sighing over something I've been through before quite recently. I'm just tired of needing to clarify myself until my head hurts.

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       Catherine Kaneposted 11 years agoin reply to this

       Julie I hear that. I'm a Christian wed to a Wiccan, so there's lots of clarification in my life as well
       
       We need ethical leaders. Truth be, many ethical people are also religious; so tolerance is the issue
       
       Hope your head feels better

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    Dubuquedogtrainerposted 11 years ago

    Are you asking about the U.S. presidential election? If so, I don't care for either candidate, so I guess to answer your question I will be standing for "right" and not voting.

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       Catherine Kaneposted 11 years agoin reply to this

       Respectfully, I don't know as doing nothing actually does stand for right...

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       Attikosposted 11 years agoin reply to this

       Refusing to participate in a corrupt, controlled process disguised as a free election is not doing nothing, it is exercising the only route of protest left open to you.

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       Catherine Kaneposted 11 years agoin reply to this

       Attikos, it is not the only choice left to one, it's just a ineffective choice. If you don't like the parties, you can start your own, run for government yourself or put up a candidate, campaign for legal reform.
       Not voting accomplishes nothing

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       Attikosposted 11 years agoin reply to this

       Oh, no. Starting a third party and running for elective office without subservience to one of the two majors are real examples of futile gestures. Step outside the establishemntarian box and take a look. You'll see.

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       Catherine Kaneposted 11 years agoin reply to this

       Dear, I'm a professional psychic and artist, + no box can hold me.
       and thinking that opting out does anything meaningful to change things is kinda missing the point
       It's very "fashionable" to dismiss the whole system as corrupt. Doesn't do anything

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       Attikosposted 11 years agoin reply to this

       It allows you to step outside of the system of control, giving you the perspective to realize it has moved past the point of reformability. Everyone in the box thinks he's an exception, above the illusions. None is.

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       Catherine Kaneposted 11 years agoin reply to this

       Have you considered that the concept that everyone is in a box is just your own illusion?
       It seems pretty "fashionable" and angsty to me...

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       Attikosposted 11 years agoin reply to this

       Oh, yes, I've considered that, but it isn't so. The boxees are in denial.

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       Catherine Kaneposted 11 years agoin reply to this

       You do realize that you're just proving my point, no?

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        Attikosposted 11 years agoin reply to this

        No, nothing is being proven. Something entirely different from that is being demonstrated, though.

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        swordsbaneposted 11 years agoin reply to this

        It is perfectly understantable not to vote.  When you're not presented with any candidate who makes sense and when your state removes the write in spot, what are you supposed to do?  Vote for someone on the ballot, even if they're not who you want?

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        Catherine Kaneposted 11 years agoin reply to this

        swordsbane, I'd agree that you shouldn't vote for someone that you don't believe will do the job. My point is that not voting doesn't accomplish anything constuctive. If you want change, you must be the change.Abstaining doesn't create a better world

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        swordsbaneposted 11 years agoin reply to this

        Catherine: It does is a lot of people do it.  It's called a boycott, and it works.  It doesn't work as good as voting for the person you want, but if you're not given that option, it's all you have left.

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    screamingposted 11 years ago

    I stand for what is right in my opinion. Following party lines just because your parents did, doesn't necessarily serve you well. You have to research the candidates (not listen to the news opinions) and vote how you feel the candidate will best represent you.

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       Dubuquedogtrainerposted 11 years agoin reply to this

       I was a republican, then a democrat, then a republican, then an independent, then a libertarian, then a republican, then a....well you get the picture!

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    Catherine Kaneposted 11 years ago

    I always try to do the right thing, according to my values and faith. Many times this does mean voting with a particular party, because I chose that party because of my values, but I don't follow blindly....
    
    I saw the point of Christianity brought up here. I find it interesting that Christian values and being a good Christian could have the result of voting for either party, depending on how one sees Christianity

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       Dubuquedogtrainerposted 11 years agoin reply to this

       Neither candidate is a Christian.

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       Catherine Kaneposted 11 years agoin reply to this

       Obama is listed as Christian, and, from what I can see, has actively acted in a Christian manner (given to the poor, turned the other cheek, housed the homeless, helped those in poverty,and so forth)
       So I'm not sure where you're getting your ideas,

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       Julie Fletcherposted 11 years agoin reply to this

       Step away, Catherine. It only goes downhill from here.

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       Catherine Kaneposted 11 years agoin reply to this

       Thanks Julie

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    swordsbaneposted 11 years ago

    Why would anyone with half a brain follow their party?  Whether it be God, a political party or simply someone who has a good idea.  Loyalty is all very nice and we can forgive some small errors or transgressions for the sake of solidarity.
    
    But seriously people... towing the party line?  Is there anyone out there who believes that their favorite political party has their best interests at heart?  Really?  Are we better off with one party in power than the other?  Maybe... but that's like saying it won't hurt quite so much if I douse myself in gasoline and strike a match than if I jump into a vat of sulfuric acid.  The question itself is not practical, and trying to answer it makes you miss what's important.
    
    It's not always easy to see what's right, but it should be easy to see what's wrong, and neither party is qualified to run the country.  The public record of their parties should be all the evidence you need.  Our specific form of democracy allows the citizens of this country to figure out what is right themselves and then vote for the people who best embody that ideal.  Any political party is simply another way of taking that right away from you.
    
    Figure it out for yourself.  I always vote my conscience, which is why I'm neither a Republican or a Democrat.  Don't abdicate... don't trust.  Find out.
    
    And no.... listening to Fox News or MSNBC does NOT count as 'finding out'

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       Julie Fletcherposted 11 years agoin reply to this

       I hit 'vote up' so hard that my computer proposed.

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       Catherine Kaneposted 11 years agoin reply to this

       I do my best to find out, and vote with that, but I think that "the whole system is corrupt and no party can be trusted" is as much an illusion as "my party is always right".
       Finding out includes finding out when established parties are doing right

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       swordsbaneposted 11 years agoin reply to this

       Catherine: Unfortunately, no.  The system is corrupt.  Rich lawyers and rich oil men are the mostly the people who get elected.  We can take back our elections any time, but everything about the system is geared to keeping us in the dark.  It's broke

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       Catherine Kaneposted 11 years agoin reply to this

       you know, if the whole system were corrupt, you wouldn't have the freedom of speech to say that publically. We wouldn't have politicians going to jail for wrongdoing.The US would be strip mined to a carcass.
       There's much evidence your idea's flawed

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       swordsbaneposted 11 years agoin reply to this

       Catherine: Politicians going to jail?  When does that happen?  Did Nixon go to jail for trying to stage a coup?  Did Clinton go to jail for lying to Congress?  Did Bush go to jail for fabricating evidence to get us into a war?

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