Is Obama pandering to special interest groups solely to increase his votes come

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  1. Conservative Lady profile image72
    Conservative Ladyposted 6 years ago

    Is Obama pandering to special interest groups solely to increase his votes come November?

    Is President Obama's announcement that his administration will not enforce immigration deportation of young illegal immigrants a "vote grab" in your opinion? If so - does he not think the unemployed Americans who cannot find work will appreciate 800,000 more "new" workers pouring in to the already very sluggish job market?

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  2. profile image0
    WhydThatHappenposted 6 years ago

    I think the people who don't appreciate the flooding of the job market weren't planning on keeping the current president in office anyways. I don't like that the president can selectively enforce legislation- it makes it hard to know what's legal and what's not

    1. Conservative Lady profile image72
      Conservative Ladyposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      The President shouldn't selectively enforce legislation but this President does a lot of things he should not do.....

    2. Uninvited Writer profile image83
      Uninvited Writerposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      President Obama has used his executive privilege less than any sitting president in recent history. George Bush had already used twice as many in his first year of office.

    3. Conservative Lady profile image72
      Conservative Ladyposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Uninvited - George Bush had to deal with a major Terror situation but that is beside the point, he has not been in office since 2008. This is about Obama putting citizens of other countries before US citizens.

    4. JON EWALL profile image75
      JON EWALLposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      HUBBERS TAKE NOTE OF MEXICAN LAW

      If you break the Mexican illegal immigrant law. First offense 2 years in jail Second offense 10 years in jail I would venture to say that there are not many with 10 year terms.

      In the US, ICE if they don't release

    5. Josak profile image60
      Josakposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Factually untrue, Mexico has no punishment for violating immigration laws except deportation just like the US so stop spreading lies.

    6. JON EWALL profile image75
      JON EWALLposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      WhydThatHappen
      The Constitution, note that Presidents don't make law, their job is to ENFORCE the laws of the country.This President disrespects and disregards the US Constitution, Congress  and the Laws with an arrogance beyond imagination.

  3. Josak profile image60
    Josakposted 6 years ago

    Well the people he helped won't be voting because they aren't citizens so he will have to rely on people voting for him because he did something morally right.

    Do you actually believe that it means more people in the potential workforce? those people are illegals which means they are not on welfare so obviously they already have a job, just an illegal job that does not pay taxes and which they may be being paid less than minimum wage, now they are legal they can pay taxes and have to be paid minimum wage meaning legal workers can compete, this is a good thing in every single way.

    1. Josak profile image60
      Josakposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Seriously can anyone explain to me how this will negatively affect people in the American workforce?

    2. Conservative Lady profile image72
      Conservative Ladyposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      What is morally right about a President going against Congress and Laws of the Country he is supposed to represent? What is morally right about allowing illegals to stay for 2 years worry free but after 2 years then what? Obama has no love for the US

    3. Josak profile image60
      Josakposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      I asked for an answer about how this would negatively affect American workers? Not how the bill was passed, executive orders have been used by a boatload of presidents Including Nixon, Clinton and George W Bush. What does two years have to do with it

    4. Conservative Lady profile image72
      Conservative Ladyposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      According to Bloomberg Institute granting Amnesty to the immigrants allows them to apply for jobs that they would not qualify for without documentation. The Executive Order from Obama specifys a 2 year Amnesty - then what??? Ask Obama.

    5. Josak profile image60
      Josakposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      If they are applicable for better jobs this is a good thing, they can use their qualifications to get better jobs thus freeing up the jobs thy previously occupied, that is good. The intention is to have the amnesty extended to permanent.

    6. Uninvited Writer profile image83
      Uninvited Writerposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      This legislation will not let illegal immigrants flood into the country. This is for children who have lived their entire lives in the US, have never gotten in trouble, and giving them work permits. The US is Obama's country, of course he loves it.

    7. Conservative Lady profile image72
      Conservative Ladyposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Josak - "they can use their qualifications to get better jobs" - that is the problem - There are NO jobs - unemployment is higher than we can tolerate already. But Obama doesn't seem to care about the already unemployed American citizens.

    8. Josak profile image60
      Josakposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      but these people are already employed, making them legal will just allow American workers to compete on the same wage basis, it's good for American workers.

    9. Conservative Lady profile image72
      Conservative Ladyposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Where does it say that these people are already working? What happens to these people if after 2 years the exception is over turned and now the Government has all of their names in a database making them even more vulnerable to deportation?

    10. Josak profile image60
      Josakposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Well illegals are not eligible for welfare or unemployment o they need to be working to support themselves. If that happens which it almost certainly won't then we saved money finding illegals instead of having to track them down, win win.

    11. JON EWALL profile image75
      JON EWALLposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      The Constitution is the foundation of our government. Each and every public official including President Barak Obama took an oath of office to defend the constitution and the laws of the land. Public officials in Washington continually remind us that

  4. JON EWALL profile image75
    JON EWALLposted 6 years ago

    Conservative Lady
    Yes, Obama will try anything to keep his job. The man has made a mockery of the  Office of the President, disregards the Constitution and has violated his oath of his office, without disregard of what is right and what is wrong.

    THE OATH OF OFFICE:
    "I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States.

    http://jon-ewall.hubpages.com/hub/Immig … BarakObama

    1. Conservative Lady profile image72
      Conservative Ladyposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Very well stated Jon - I am pleased to see that some folks do see Obama for who he really is....

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      oceansiderposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Thank you Jon!....I agree with you!

  5. junkseller profile image83
    junksellerposted 6 years ago

    A politician attempting to get votes? What a strange thing. I've never seen any politician ever do that before. Surely Obama is some sort of monstrous aberration.

    I've never really understood the idea of illegal immigrants being some sort of vortex which sucks up money and jobs. The jobs they do, the things they buy, and the taxes they pay (sales and property) all contribute to the economy. There really isn't any actual evidence that their presence causes any harm at all. Removing these people, removes economic activity, not the other way around.

    I for one do appreciate it.

    1. Conservative Lady profile image72
      Conservative Ladyposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      You sir are a junkseller.... Illegal Immigrants cost US taxpayers money - boatloads of money - read on for more:
      http://conservativelady.hubpages.com/hu … in-America

    2. Josak profile image60
      Josakposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      According to the Treasury report the number of illegals currently in the US makes every American about 1% richer, the reason is that about one third of illegals pay full taxes voluntarily but do not receive many of the benefits of those taxes.

    3. Conservative Lady profile image72
      Conservative Ladyposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Josak - can you provide a link to that Treasury report?

    4. junkseller profile image83
      junksellerposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Any cost/benefit analysis which ONLY considers costs can make anything look bad and is simply dishonest, plus you fail to cite a single source for any of your claims. You Ma'am are the one peddling junk.

    5. JON EWALL profile image75
      JON EWALLposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      josak
      For what it’s worth regarding unauthorized aliens cost to the legal taxpayers.
      ILLEGAL ALIENS, how much it is costing the taxpayers over the government's refusal to enforce the immigration laws to the fullest extent of the law
      The following fa

    6. Josak profile image60
      Josakposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Your comment got cut off but according to most economists illegals are economically positive.

    7. JON EWALL profile image75
      JON EWALLposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      junkseller
      The total  illegal's cost is a whopping $ 338.3 BILLION DOLLARS A YEAR AND IF YOU'RE LIKE ME HAVING TROUBLE UNDERSTANDING THIS AMOUNT OF MONEY; IT IS $338,300,000,000.00 WHICH WOULD BE ENOUGH TO STIMULATE THE ECONOMY. Are we THAT stupid?

    8. junkseller profile image83
      junksellerposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      And what is their total benefit. Cost/benefit analysis includes both.

  6. Conservative Lady profile image72
    Conservative Ladyposted 6 years ago

    Josak - Jon is absolutely correct - Washington Post - Monday May 3rd, 2010 -
    Under the Mexican law, illegal immigration is a felony, punishable by up to two years in prison. Immigrants who are deported and attempt to re-enter can be imprisoned for 10 years. Visa violators can be sentenced to six-year terms. Mexicans who help illegal immigrants are considered criminals.

    The law also says Mexico can deport foreigners who are deemed detrimental to “economic or national interests,” violate Mexican law, are not “physically or mentally healthy” or lack the “necessary funds for their sustenance” and for their dependents.

 
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