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Fast & Furious, (dumb & dumber) - Why did ATF break the law, & Holder is in cont

  1. ptosis profile image80
    ptosisposted 5 years ago

    Fast & Furious, (dumb & dumber) - Why did ATF break the law, & Holder is in contempt?

    Obama deleted a provision that was voted 99-0 to prohibit any future F&F ops. The NRA position is that this flop of an op was an attempt to dismantle the 2nd amendment towards a path of a despotic nation. "To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them." -George Mason

    Do you agree with this statement? Or is the NRA crazy?



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  2. Attikos profile image78
    Attikosposted 5 years ago

    The two are not mutually exclusive views. Mason was not far from right, and the NRA is made up largely of people who are a little bit crazy. That there are many effective ways to enslave people, the most popular currently being excessive taxation and public debt, does not mean Mason missed the mark by much. That most every US institution is made up largely of people who are somewhat crazy does not mean the NRA is an exception.

    As for Holder, he is in the first rank of the most corrupt attorneys general in US history. It's clear enough the ATF was ordered not to interfere with Fast and Furious's gunrunning, which means the order originated with either Holder or Obama. He should have been impeached some time ago. Had he been, he wouldn't now have to stonewall a contempt citation. He'd have been better off leaving office before this. Now it's too late. He has to stay where he is in order to shelter the criminals, among whom is himself.

    1. ptosis profile image80
      ptosisposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      Excellent answer but will hold off choosing you as best answer since there is still only one.

  3. tobey100 profile image60
    tobey100posted 5 years ago

    Absolutely agree.  Holder himself made the statement that "we need to use any means to change people's attitude toward guns".  He's also proven himself to be a sneak and a liar.  The 'Blame Bush' strategy isn't working because with a little research it's easy to discover the Bush program ended in 2007 and was administered in conjunction with law enforcement and the government of Mexico.  Just another example of Obama and his administration's incompentence.

    1. Attikos profile image78
      Attikosposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      The project was bungled, no doubt there. Deliberately running guns to raise public pressure for a political objective, while keeping American law enforcement and the Mexican government in the dark, goes beyond incompetence, though. This is criminal.

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