What would it take to elect Gary Johnson as president?

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   lone77starposted 12 years ago

   What would it take to elect Gary Johnson as president?
   
   We may never agree on the small things, but who wants war, tyranny and economic strife? The Demopublicans and Republicrats both want more war, tyranny and government spending. With $16+Trillion in debt, we can't afford more of the same. With the Constitution already in tatters, we're losing America. It's already a felony to protest. The wars overseas were based upon lies just so Corporate Party profits could be increased. What can we do to get America prosperous and back on track?
   
   

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   thegeckoposted 12 years ago

   It would take convincing a vast majority of America to let go of their allegiances to these two failed parties and put their trust in a new group of leaders. Leaders who might not pander and cater to every petty belief system and issue out there, but who will follow a pragmatic and responsible path for the country. A path that will do the most to protect the lives, freedoms, and prosperity of the most Americans possible.
   
   Unfortunately, a majority of voters rather banter about empty ideals, religious smoke screens, meaningless sound bites, and who looks better on TV. They rather stick to their party. And behind the scenes their party is sticking it to them, their friends, their family, and the rest of us.

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      lone77starposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Nicely put, @thegecko. Ego gets in the way. So many talk about voting for a winner and voting for the lesser of 2 evils. What an upside down mentality. If things get bad enough, they might wake up, but it might be too late to do anything about it.

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   FatFreddysCatposted 12 years ago

   I've never even heard of Gary Johnson, so I'd say a good first step would be for him to get a better press agent.

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      lone77starposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Very funny, except that the Corporate Party press is biased. They're busy marginalizing anyone who poses a threat to their dismantling of America. Just like they don't say much about Obama's treason (Kill List, etc).

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      IDONOposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      This guy isn't like Chris Cristy, from a busy state. He's the governor of New Mexico. That's like being the mayor of Bedrock. If Hubpages is the largest forum for his platform, he has some serious fund raising to do. Hubpage SuperPac? Never.

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   Attikosposted 12 years ago

   It would take divine intervention. The Lord, however, seems not to care much about politics.

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      lone77starposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      God has His own plans, but we can still be compassionate about our fellow humans. Both halves of the Corporate party are dismantling America. A taste--
      
      RNC:
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKaXqoC4DjE
      
      DNC:
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmaE2Aez_XY

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   Elliefaceposted 12 years ago

   It's really a shame that he doesn't get more press and media attention, because I really feel that he could be a wonderful president for America. The media has this way of just shoving the two party system down our throats, and the sad thing is we, the American people, sort of allow it. It is also drilled into the public that if you vote for someone NOT Republican or Democrat, then you are "wasting your vote." I for one think this is horrible, because in my opinion a vote that is cast is never wasted.The only way for a third party candidate to actually have a fighting chance is to allow them to be in the debates (all of the debates, not just one or two) AND give them more media attention. That way those candidates voices can be heard.
   
   (I will be voting for Gary Johnson in November.)

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      Attikosposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Let me suggest the idea that the wasted votes are not those cast for candidates other than those of the two major parties, but those cast for candidates the voter does not like but feels he has to vote for or else waste his vote. A paradox, of sorts.

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      Elliefaceposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Attikos, you couldn't have said it better. If ANY vote is a wasted vote, it would definitely be what you suggested!

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      lone77starposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      I just watched a video where Gary Johnson was saying that he was suing the ones organizing the debates on anti-trust grounds.
      
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjFZdCKtOfc

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      Larry Wallposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      There is no basis for suing the debates on anti-trust grounds. Debate set guidelines for who will participate, usually based on poll numbers. In this case, the criteria was the nominees of the two major parties in Congress.

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      lone77starposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      I understand, Larry, but I don't think those are fair criteria, especially since the ones setting the rules are Democrats and Republicans, and the Corporate Party controls public access and perception to the degree it does.

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      Larry Wallposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Comm. on Presidential Debates began in 1987 by the Dem.& Rep. parties to establish the way that presidential election debates are run between candidates for President. The Comm. is a non-profit,whose debates are sponsored by private contributions

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      lone77starposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      My point, exactly, Larry. Adolph Hitler could've created a "non-profit," and the Rockefellers and Rothschilds could've donated a few pennies of their vast fortunes to make it plump with funds.

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   Larry Wallposted 12 years ago

   No third party candidate has every won the presidency. This is because they usually do not have enough money to finance a campaign, and the Congress is still going to be composed of the two major parties, thus giving voters the idea that the administration will not cooperate with the Congress.
   
   Ross Perot had enough money. However, he only succeeded in splitting the conservative vote, thus allowing Bill Clinton to win. You can check the popular vote and see that George H.W. Bush and Perot had more popular votes than Clinton. Admittedly, I have not check the electoral college vote to see if we would had been face with another George W. Bush vs. Al Gore situation.
   
   I consider myself fairly informed, but I know virtually nothing about Gary Johnson, probably because he did not have the money to get his message out to the people. However, I still do not envision a third party candidate winning in my life time. I am 61.
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      thegeckoposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      He is very viral on the Internet. If you were looking at the ballots and who actually ran, you would know about him and Jill Stein

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      lone77starposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      The problem with life in America (and I now live in Philippines) is that the Corporate Party decides what it wants made visible.
      
      That's why the New World Order is frantically trying to censor the Internet. SOPA, PIPA, CISPA, TPP and more!

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      Larry Wallposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Despite the widespread use of the internet, and I am on it everyday, the only place I come across his name is on the Hub. No one offers a link.  While he may be very viral on the Web, he is still not getting to a large portion of the population.

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      lone77starposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      I understand, Larry. There can be lots of traffic, but if it doesn't pass in front of your house, you're not aware of it. But if every person who learned of it told 2 other people right away, everyone in America could know within a few weeks.

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      Larry Wallposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      lone77star:
      You make a good point about word of mouth  advertising.  The problem is that I am suspect of almost everything I read on the internet about political candidates. People say the networks are bias. They give Internet a pass on objectivity.

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      lone77starposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Being suspect is a good attitude to have with everything, including your own beliefs. Only with an empty cup can the Lord fill it with Truth.
      
      Everyone likely has an agenda. And the Lord said that you can know a tree by the fruit it bears

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      thegeckoposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      So the question is... what kind of fruit does Gary Johnson bear? Probably red apples... who doesn't like red apples?

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      lone77starposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      @thegecko... red apples? LOL! Cute! That, by itself, should go viral...

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   lone77starposted 12 years ago

   Here's a Gary Johnson YouTube video that spells out what kind of man he is:
   
   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FP69507fTKY
   
   And here's one with him being interviewed in Ohio. He mentions he's suing the debate organizers on grounds of anti-trust laws:
   
   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjFZdCKtOfc
   
   Why does America need him rather than Obama or Romney?
   
   Because both Obama and Romney are essentially the same on everything critically important to America's future:
   * War
   * Economic turmoil
   * Tyranny
   Both of them are for more of the same!
   
   Here's some of the tyranny Obama has perpetrated (acts of treason and breaks with his Oath of Office):
   
   Kill list with Americans on it:
   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrRuNOaNYME
   
   NDAA with its indefinite detention clauses for Americans (no charges, no attorney, no trial, no phone call).
   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOM85tx8OJE
   
   And both halves of the Corporate Party (Republicrats and Demopublicans) have trashed voting and Roberts Rules of Order. Elections are now a thinly veiled sham:
   
   RNC Scripted:
   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKaXqoC4DjE
   
   DNC Scripted:
   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmaE2Aez_XY
   
   All of these erosions of the Constitution go back to one major lie -- 9/11. Why a lie? Because 9/11 was an inside job and there's tons of scientific proof.
   
   Just watch the 3-video series starting with,
   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QMSAsOkumI
   for a High School physics lesson that proves Controlled Demolition.
   
   Want a chuckle? Here's several good reasons why Bush's Conspiracy Theory is full of holes:
   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmbPh3u7_q0
   
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   It isn't just a "nice" idea to have Gary Johnson as president. It's vital that neither Obamney nor Rombama become president, otherwise America is dead and we're all slaves to Goldman-Sachs and the Rockefellers.
   
   I know this is hard to believe for someone saturated with the Corporate Party media, but you have to do your own research. Let the above videos be your starting point.
   
   And help us come up with some better ideas.

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      Larry Wallposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      It is too late. Electors in my state are obligated to Barrack Obama. They are committed on the first couple of ballots. If a third party candidate wants to win, he has to hae a party, he has to make some noise, he must raise money and spread his idea

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      lone77starposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Then, Larry, it looks as though tyranny has won. We can look forward to more of the Constitution being shredded until it's gone and all who would protest are in concentration camps ("residential centers") or dead. Sieg heil

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      Larry Wallposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      I made a mistake. Delegates in my state are pledged to Romney. Still does not help a third party candidate. Also, I do not check out You Tube every day. If he wants to reach me, he has to go a little more mainstream. You Tube is not fully impartial.

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   RavenBikerposted 12 years ago

   Alas, it would take money to buy the news---which the 2 parties have done andare  able to do.
   
   Unfortunately, a Republic is which we live only allows a two-party system.  Democrats and Republicans alike made sure of that----and all they want is your money.
   
   Worse, I thought word-of-mouth works better than it has for any third party.  If the government were a business, it would have been out of business a long time ago....
   
   Insane, I was told by both dyed-in-the-wool democrat and republican card holders that I'm wasting my vote on Libertarians.  Stupid me to think that a vote not cast is the wasted vote.
   
   I digress.  It would take buying the news outlets and like any business, news outlets want paid.

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      lone77starposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Buy the news? I think they already belong to another "lover," called the Corporate Party -- the party of greed. Rockefeller + Rothschild-type greed. But, oh well! Maybe we can save enough of America to start a new land of the free...

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   cjames2783posted 12 years ago

   I think the problem is that people only pay attention to the national election.  They only pay attention to the Presidential election.  To gain any traction with a 3rd party, one must begin locally and expand.  Hoping to win a Presidential election is like becoming a pro boxer and taking on the champ in your first pro fight.  To get anywhere with a 3rd party candidate: begin with local government, move onto the state government, and then move onto the national stage.

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      lone77starposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Excellent, @cjames2783. Keep spreading the good word.

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      RavenBikerposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      good advice cjames but the Libertarian party already has occupied numerous local offices and seats across the United States.  Libertarians are the most prominent 3rd party office holders here in Pennsylvania where I live.

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