Does anyone out there have a better idea to replace Obama care?

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   ZipperConstantineposted 11 years ago

   Does anyone out there have a better idea to replace Obama care?
   
   I think the states need to take care of their own and Governors collectively need to come up with ideas to replace it instead on sitting on their behinds letting the federal government take over to make a mess of things.  I heard today the Unions are now worried about Obama Care.

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   ChristinSposted 11 years ago

   I think people need to learn what is actually in Obamacare before complaining.  Most of the people who are complaining never mention the people it helps.  Is it perfect? No, far from it.  Is it helpful? For those with preexisting conditions, the self-employed, and others previously uninsurable it certainly is.  The whole thing is pretty much a rewrite of Romney care that was in Mass.  He was a repub.  The people really pushing repeal  want to see it fail for political reasons only - it's based on plans once approved by conservatives.
   
   Also, the exchange rates in California are much lower than projected.  In all honesty it doesn't change a thing it is NOT socialized medicine.  All the govt is doing is enforcing that everyone have insurance (I am on the fence on that part) It is still all run through private insurance companies and not a true socialized medicine system.  The exchanges that were mandated, the insurance still comes from private insurance companies. The exchanges allow people to band and negotiate for lower rates - what's wrong with that?
   
   The potential benefits are lowered rates and competition due to the exchanges going into effect - this is a good thing, not a bad thing.  Of course the bought and paid for politicians are spreading fear and propaganda. I suggest people read the actual bill and debate on those points not the fear propaganda being spread in soundbites and on talk radio.
   
   Many countries have fully socialized medicine and although it isn't perfect either I know of no one in those countries who would give it up for our current system.
   I can understand worry - change is scary, but continuing on with our current health care system is simply not an option.  Many can't get health care they need because it is simply too unaffordable.

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      Larry Wallposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      An excellent comment and one of the best explanations I have heard or read in many, may months. Thank you for your objectivity and insight.

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   ahorsebackposted 11 years ago

   The simple and sad truth is that obamacare will do nothing to CHANGE how screwed up the system is now . Costs will rise higher , lines will get longer , doctors will do less and less work . Everyone though ,intside the system will get richer because we are forced to spend more on care . Insurance companies ,  hospitals , ....all this nation has to do is return to a "regulated "health care industry ! Instead of free willed profitability ,Colective  Corporate America , including the health care and insurance  industry ,has figured out how to control services and costs , -the supply and demand lies within thier control !   Regulate them back into conformity  with improved service , profit margins and  costs ! And we all win !

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      Larry Wallposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Since Obamacare is not yet in effect, please tell me why I am being denied major medical health coverage for pre-existing conditions that are all under control, plus the fact I am almost 63 and in 3 years will be on Medicare--which is not going away.

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   taburkettposted 11 years ago

   Obamacare is a political debacle spread to generate additional chaos so that the politicians can muddle through yet another disastrous situation that the hard working citizens will be required to pay for.
   The medical problem broadcast by Obama was simply a flirtation for votes and so as with all other political flirtations will fix nothing.
   Those who believe they can get something for nothing have never paid for anything in their lives.
   If you want to fix the problem, then the politicians must make sure everyone is employed.  That means there are no free rides.
   But, without the chaos, politicians would never get their big $ constituents to fork over the millions they spend to get voted into a $60,000 a year job.
   The Obama and Romney campaigns spent over $5 billion trying to earn a $400,000 a year job.
   The best plan for fixing the problem would also include removing all pay for everyone who works in Washington for the federal government until they actually make a profit for the nation..

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      Larry Wallposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Government is not suppose to make a profit--it should not be in a deficit, but part of the deficit problem is the demands placed on the system and party bickering.

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   Mitch Alanposted 11 years ago

   Obamacare is a smoke and mirror charade that is based on the Cloward & Piven approach, which overloads a system to cause a failure that then needs to be "saved" and taken over by the government. They said they wanted a single payer (full on government run) program and that this was a step towards that. It props up the "lower" costs in the short term, but rates will rise after full implementation. There will be means testing for procedures based on age and "viability".
   A better system would be a free-market approach where insurance companies can compete across State lines, offer more options to more people and bring the insurance rates down. This has been seen in the auto insurance industry. We need strong tort reform to reduce truly frivolous law suits, especially those in the medical field, so as to lower the costs associated with providing health care and reducing the fees charged. The current system, including Medicare/caid, is a false narrative of real costs. By artificially, at the federal level, determining what a doctor will get paid, it forces the cost to up on those actually paying. Artificial price fixing by a government bureaucracy is never a good plan.

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      Larry Wallposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      From a purely personal and prejudice perspective, Obamacare is going to prevent major insurance companies from denying coverage to me because of per-existing health conditions. For me, this is a major step forward. I will see what else happens.

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      CalebSparksposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      That is a great idea, Mitch. I believe that eventually most if not all the private insurance companies will go out of business because they can't match government rates...leaving the federal government the sole provider of insurance...bye bye privacy

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      Mitch Alanposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Larry, sadly means testing (death panels) may make that "gain" a moot point.
      Caleb, thanks...

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      Larry Wallposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Mitch Alan, the death panel scare was bull. Besides every private ins. co. will evaluate what they pay for life ending illnesses or accidents and may not pay for everything you think they should.

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   Larry Wallposted 11 years ago

   I do not think anyone can come up with a plan that is better than Obamacare, because we do not know the real impacts of Obamacare. We have all heard the horror stories, but no one has explained why those scenarios are going to occur.
   
   There are definitely parts of the plan that I like. As the plan is implemented, there may be parts I do not like. I was forced to take courses in school that I did not like and people in my generation who were in the 18-25 years old back in the late 1960s and 1970s fought in a war they did not like.
   
   No one can draft a plan that will please everyone or will provide the benefits that everyone is looking to have. Therefore, we finally have a plan. It can be amended. The accompanying regulations can be reviewed and revised as needed. In other words if the plan needs fixing, we fix it.
   
   When I purchased my first use car, the transmission fell apart on the second day while I was going to my first post-college job. I had to get it fix. It would had been better if I had started with a new car, but I could not afford that. So I made the best purchase I could afford ($500)  and made repairs as needed and in two years I was driving a new car because I had earned enough to afford the down payment and monthly note. In other words, I made adjustments to fit the situation. That is what we will have to do with Obamacare.

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      CalebSparksposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      I took you for a more intelligent man, Larry. Why don't people realize that more government intervention will mean more government control and less privacy and freedom of choice for the citizen.

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      Larry Wallposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      What privacy are you talking about. Your medical records are available to the insurance industry and the co. you deal with will give them to related cos. You have to sign a release for any state or federal and some private jobs. Where is the privacy?

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