Why aren't the Hollywood anti war folks speaking out more per Obama's strong des

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  1. Missing Link profile image83
    Missing Linkposted 5 years ago

    Why aren't the Hollywood anti war folks speaking out more per Obama's strong desire to bomb Syria?

    Why aren't the Hollywood elite and other left leaning folks speaking out more per Obama's drive to bomb Syria?

    I remember with George W. Bush they were going nuts but I can't hear them much now.

    Per Obama's plan to bomb Syria, we have no UN security council agreement, the UK backed out, it does not have a majority of support domestically and our federal governing bodies don't like it either.

    Why isn't Obama listening and again, why are the Hollywood elite so quiet?


  2. Billie Kelpin profile image85
    Billie Kelpinposted 5 years ago

    As a person who has protested on various issues,  I have asked myself why those on the left who are anti-war aren't marching. However, this doesn't mean that the Progressive part of the Dem. Party is not vigorously debating the issue! If you listen to Rhandi Rhodes and Ian Masters on iheart radio, you'll hear opposition and discussion from experts on all aspects of this ques.   
    After 9/11, my husband and I marched in the slushy snow of MN to protest going into Iraq. It was a difficult choice because I'd call up on our local talk radio and be called unpatriotic. Experts were giving strong cases against that war, and liberals were listening. In spite of being called unpatriotic, it was easier to protest that war because of the words Bush was using: "evil doers" "axis of evil" which suggest revenge for the sake of revenge. That never flies with liberals.  You can forget the eye-for-an-eye business with the left.  Actually, they are more Christian than that.
    Left-leaning liberals have a high moral compass contrary to what those on the right might believe.  But it's a different moral compass.  They consider long and hard the REASON for an action.  They will give their lives for the protection of others, but are less motivated to do it for their own preservation.  For example, right now, President Obama's rhetoric to appeal to the masses, "in our own interest," does NOT appeal to me.  If he would say, "we have a moral obligation to the world - something, something," that would be different. 
    So why no protests?  Like Vietnam, this situation is extremely complicated.  I think in the back of the minds of liberals is the sense that President Obama either knows something we don't, or is "stratigizing" with this tactic for a reason we can't understand. As a liberal, I am constantly amazed at his conservative leanings and actually disappointed that he capitulates to the right, against what I feel are his natural inclinations.  However, do I trust him?  Yes. I trust him because he's smart.

    Regarding the Hollywood "elite", I think statistics will show that people who go into acting, are actually highly intelligent. They have this strong sense of moral obligation because they know they wield power with their money. Again, it's the question of whether it is more moral to go to war at this point and show the world that we will fight for atrocities committed against our fellow man, or is it more moral to NOT cause more suffering? Everyone is weighing this heavily.

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      JThomp42posted 5 years agoin reply to this


    2. ChristinS profile image59
      ChristinSposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      I completely agree with this post. We too protested both Iraq wars and were called all sorts of names. I am vehemently opposed to war/strikes in Syria and will do whatever I can to voice my opposition.

    3. Billie Kelpin profile image85
      Billie Kelpinposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      JThomp42, a very hurtful "LOL" which seeped into my day.  Christin, you always add light!  Thank you.

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    JThomp42posted 5 years ago

    You mean the bleeding heart liberals? At this time there has been no use of force. Wait until there is, then they will start swarming.

    1. ChristinS profile image59
      ChristinSposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      I'd rather have a "bleeding heart" than blood on my hands supporting another war with no purpose.

  4. Ranzi profile image81
    Ranziposted 5 years ago

    Maybe they don't want to come across as anti Obama or racist

  5. Missing Link profile image83
    Missing Linkposted 5 years ago

    Hi Billie and everyone! 

    What I have learned is this---and actually this is common sense when you think about.

    Liberals or conservatives is a gigantic classification.  I want to focus on liberals here.   Within liberalism there are varying degrees and manifestations.  In college for example, most everyone was left leaning....which is pretty typical for college kids.   Most of it though was beautiful and kind and about love, etc.  It was great!  There was a fringe element of liberals also then that were bizarre or who seemed militant, angry, mentally unstable, etc  Mostly though it was great!

    Here is how I turned against liberals---I moved to Seattle and worked in an office dominated by a very ugly and dangerous strain.  These were very passive aggressive and vicious people.  They detested the idea of a sovereign USA and also detested the flag, traditional family, the military, references to God and everything else that most people like or hold dear. 

    This group dominated the office and made it a very miserable place to work.  This group held the entire place hostage.

    This ugly group claimed to be tolerant and inclusive but they were anything but.  They were only tolerant if you were like them.  If you had any inkling of traditional views---like I did...you were in big trouble.  I was VERY much discriminated against because I was different in some of my views---other people were victimized also.  A weird thing is this---when I moved to Seattle I thought I was left leaning-----but I was very different from these ugly  and mean spirited liberals.  After many years, I began to resent them and this is what turned me against the left and what made me embrace the right.

    Billie, I especially liked reading your comments, reading about your viewpoints, etc. 

    Per Syria, there are no significant resolutions per the UN Security Council, the UK backed out, there is limited support here domestically, etc.

    If Obama doesn't get our government to agree with him but he decides to attack anyway.....I will feel like I'm living in the Twilight Zone.  Also, if it goes down with Obama deciding to attack on his own---I think this will be terrible for the legacy of our country and how the rest of the world views us.  Much of the world is already skeptical about the USA...

    1. Billie Kelpin profile image85
      Billie Kelpinposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      M, exactly right. Our workplace can affect our views tremendously.  I was fortunate enough to work for the exact opposite type of liberal at a Comm.College Student Support Program. Within the next 2 days all of us can reverse this war train.

  6. taburkett profile image59
    taburkettposted 5 years ago

    It was not written into their scripts.  So, many of them do not recognize the need.  This is caused by their targeting handlers.  Many of the puppets resemble the leader that is failing so miserably.


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