What's your view on communism? Are you for or against it? Give reasons to suppor

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   Prakash RnPposted 11 years ago

   What's your view on communism? Are you for or against it? Give reasons to support your answer.

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   JThomp42posted 11 years ago

   At the center of the Christian faith is the affirmation that there is a God in the universe who is the ground and essence of all reality. A Being of infinite love and boundless power, God is the creator, sustainer, and conserver of values. In opposition to Communism's atheistic materialism, Christianity posits a theistic idealism. Reality cannot be explained by matter in motion or the push and pull of economic forces. Christianity affirms that at the heart of reality is a Heart, a loving Father who works through history for the salvation of his children. Man cannot save himself, for man is not the measure of all things and humanity is not God. Bound by the chains of his own sin and finiteness, man needs a Savior.
   
   Second, Communism is based on ethical relativism and accepts no stable moral absolutes. Right and wrong are relative to the most expedient methods for dealing with class war. Communism exploits the dreadful philosophy that the end justifies the means. It enunciates movingly the theory of a classless society, but alas! its methods for achieving this noble end are all too often ignoble. Lying, violence, murder, and torture are considered to be justifiable means to achieve the millennial end. Is this an unfair indictment? Listen to the words of Lenin, the real tactician of Communist theory: "We must be ready to employ trickery, deceit, lawbreaking, withholding and concealing truth." Modem history has known many tortuous nights and horror-filled days because his followers have taken this statement seriously.

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      Prakash RnPposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Communism has a scientific basis.Belief in God is silly.Man can both save and kill himself.Innumerable curative medicines and war weapons prove this thesis.Communism disapproves of the philosophy that end justifies means.Lenin was not a communist.

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   pauley13posted 11 years ago

   The idea is flawed on all levels. It's economically a disaster, both as proven in practice as well as logically and conceptually. Along with other totalitarian and collectivist ideologies, it's the source of the worst evils in the world today. And to add insult to injury, it always blames ALL of its failings on capitalism.

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      Prakash RnPposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Do you really have a good concept of communism? Who proved 'in practice', 'logically and conceptually' that 'It's economically a disaster'? Would you elaborate a little more your claim that 'it's the source of the worst evils'?

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   Tusitala Tomposted 11 years ago

   If you have ever read Geoge Orwell's book "Animal Farm" you will understand that the despite the ideals originally propounded by the founders of Communism, it doesn't work because of the way we humans behave.    "All animals are equal but some are more equal than others," is the eventual outcome of this story as the pigs (very appropriate animal chosen, it seems because of their greed) eventually rule over all the other farm animals.
   
   Animal Farm was, of course, a satirical work which was based on Orwell's opinion of the communist state and how good intentions don't take long to become compromised as greed and desire for power takes over.  We know that there are still a number of Communist regimes extant around the world.  Would it be right to say that all the people in those countries are regarded as having equal value and equal merit?  We might think so, their rulers obviously do not.   
   
   So I am not for a Communist state.  However, I am not for pure, uncontrolled Captialism either.    History tells us what this was like.  The dark, satanic mill, the nine and ten-year olds working as chimney sweeps and in the coal mines, the pitiful wages and long hours.   I think the way most First World countries outside of the Communist block still have a long way to go, but their capitalist/socialist mix systems are  miles ahead of unadultered Communism or Capitalism.

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      Prakash RnPposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Communism remains an unrealised dream to date.Thus,'Animal Farm' 's basis is a wrong view of communism. There are no 'Communist regimes'. Communism doesn't regard humans as equal or as 'having equal value and equal merit'.

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   Borsiaposted 11 years ago

   Communism as practiced by whom? There has never been a true communist state of any size.
   The basic concept of communism would seem to work and there have been some examples in history at tribal levels.
   JT; there is nothing inherently atheistic about ideal communism. The examples we have seen Stalin, Mao being the biggest were / are atheistic but that is a matter of who the leaders were and how they viewed religion as a threat. But they opposed atheistic religions just as much as theistic ones.
   The biggest problem with communism on a large scale is that it requires a government power structure and with that come corruption and a chaste system which violates the basic premise of communism.
   For that simple reason I would say that communism can't work on a large scale.

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      JThomp42posted 11 years agoin reply to this

      We will of course have to agree to disagree on this subject. Communism has brought about such torment. Not only the one's you mention but several more. Pol Pot sound familiar?

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      Prakash RnPposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Borsia, I agree with the view that a 'true' communist system is still unreality. I think communism is basically atheistic, and I view it as its plus point. Your view on the 'biggest problem with communism on a large scale' need be elaborated more.

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