What are the 10 ways that extreme liberalism has devastated, even destroyed Amer

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   gmwilliamsposted 9 years ago

   What are the 10 ways that extreme liberalism has devastated, even destroyed America
   
   culturally, educationally, economically, even morally?
   
   

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   cjhunsingerposted 9 years ago

   gm
   Liberalism is a fairly new perspective and came about with the thinking of John Locke in contradiction to the rule of kings. It can be said that the Founding Fathers were liberal extremists, from the point of view of King James. Locke viewed liberalism, as a human right to life, liberty, property and a democratic process.
   Like all good things many things are bastardized, convoluted and twisted to suit those, who wish to distort a solid principle. Today, I would equate a Liberal philosophy with socialism and eventually to a Marxist or totalitarian state. Today I would ask the question, a fitting question; when is a liberal not a socialist,  not a Marxist, as one seems to lead to the other?
   Culturally, liberalism is a contradiction to American history and heritage in the guise of a politically correct (a new phrase for 'Newspeak') mindset that damns America, as an insensitive and un-inclusive monster. The effect is an overthrow of the principles of a free society that is embodied in The Bill of Rights. Liberalism has come to mean, not 'life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness", but rather a mandate to an untenable equality mandated and controlled by the state.
   To accomplish this end the 'freedom to achieve' must be degraded to 'the right to have'. It is a reductionist philosophy that accommodates a state controlled economy through education, moral conduct and an embracing of anything that diminishes self reliance, self respect, loyalty to family and is, essentially, a contradiction to a free society and a free thinking people.

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      Kathleen Cochranposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Every great social movement in American history has come from the left: emancipation of slaves, suffrage for women, civil rights for minorities, to name a few.  No one complains about having mail service, fire departments or libraries: socialism.

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      cjhunsingerposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Kathleen--Check your history on slavery and civil rights--it was not the left, but the right. Your last sentence, mail,  fire libraries  is not socialism.

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   dashingscorpioposted 9 years ago

   I've come to realize that people see what they want to see, hear what they want to hear, and believe what they want to believe.
   The demise of America has been greatly exaggerated. All one needs to do is (travel across the country) and you'll see thousands of little towns where people are gathering for various festivals, cheering their kids on at sporting events, upholding various traditions such as pumpkin patches, attending church, donating money, clothing, and other items to charity and the list goes on and on.
   One has to be careful of watching, reading, and listening to too much news AKA blues. The vast majority of the nation does not live in New York, Chicago, or LA.
   A lot people live in towns with 25,000 people or less.
   I personally live in a place about an hour from Chicago with under 10,000 people. I have the option of (focusing) on the number of murders that take place in Chicago and claim "the whole world is going to hell" or I can look at the reality of where (I live) where there is no murders!
   The way the news and media works is "If it bleeds it leads". Reporting every bad or potential scary thing is what gets people to tune in, click on news links, or buy newspapers. The media focuses on the (exceptions) of the norm. However if one doesn't research or gather information from multiple sources they're likely to believe the world is crumbling around them.
   The FBI in 2012 stated 14,827 people were murdered during 2011 in the United States, well down from 24,526 in 1993, when the country’s population was smaller. Other sources have also indicated crime rates are actually declining.
   Under president Obama the stock market has seen all time highs, interest rates remain low, the financial industry has been stabilized, unemployment continues to inch downward, and home values are starting to rebound. He's far from perfect! However it would be an exaggeration to say things haven't improved from 2009.
   Morals
   Per the department of human health services: "In 2013, there were 26.6 births for every 1,000 adolescent females ages 15-19, or 274,641 babies born to females in this age group. The 2013 teen birth rate indicates a  (decline of ten percent from 2012) when the birth rate was (29.4 per 1,000). (The teen birth rate has {declined almost continuously over the past 20 years}! In 1991, the U.S. teen birth rate was (61.8 births for every 1,000) adolescent females.) - And yet a lot of folks (feel) it's just the opposite!
   Perception is reality! (To hell with statistics & facts)

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      cjhunsingerposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      I retired from the metropolises of CA. to a small town in MI for the very reasons you post. I wish sincerely that you are right and I am wrong.

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      dashingscorpioposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      As of September 30, 2014, the United States has a total resident population of 318,827,000 and most of those folks don't live in the top 50 populated cities of America. I lived in Orange County for awhile. Aliso Viejo, Laguna Niguel, Dana Point

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      cjhunsingerposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      dashing---I know the area well, Orange County Deputy Sheriff in the 60's--a McDonadls franchise in the 70's, Mission Viejo and Dana Point.--Small world.

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      dashingscorpioposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      You have to admit then that there is no comparison in crime rates between Mission Viejo and LA. However those living in MV will primarily hear about violent crime in the nearest major city. Big Bear and lots of other little towns in CA to live.

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      Old-Empresarioposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      D.S., great answer. I wish more could read it. I'm convinced TV news in particular has ruined a perfectly good generation of old people. They once sat outside and were pleasant. Now they're angry and talk about crime, Palestine and guns.

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      cjhunsingerposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      dashing--Compared to the 60's or 70's (starting to build then) there would be no comparison to today's stats. To many of the small towns here are beginning to experience meth and other drug related crimes. Kids, families are being destroyed.

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      dashingscorpioposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      O.E. - Thanks! I believe 24hr global news has made many of us focus on the negatives even when nothing is happening in our own town.
      cjhunsinger - New York's Time Square looks like Disneyland compared to how it looked in the 1970s!

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      gmwilliamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      It certainly DOES, Times Square in the 1970s was a cesspool. It was Giuliani, a Republican, who cleaned up Times Square.  BTW, I'm not a Republican but have always given the Devil its due when necessary! Giuliani was a LEADER-should've been PRESIDENT

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      dashingscorpioposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      gmwilliams, Giuliani had a challenge overcoming scandals..He billed the costs of his affair with Judith Nathan to city agencies. Extramarital affairs don't play well for (conservatives). Republicans want a squeaky clean rep. Primaries are brutal!

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       gmwilliamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this

       ALL of the parties want SQUEAKLY CLEAN candidates.  Obama in his presidential run, distanced himself from Schwarzennegger as a result of the scandal w/the housekeeper- didn't want Arnie to sully his reputation!

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       Old-Empresarioposted 9 years agoin reply to this

       The only way to get news is read the business section of the newspaper and throw the rest of the paper away. It's amazing that the deaths of 3 or 4 people can capture the nation's attention when real things are happening that we miss.

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   Old-Empresarioposted 9 years ago

   How liberalism destroyed America? That's easy:
   1. It ended property ownership as a qualification for being a voter. Now any idiot can vote.
   2. It espoused the misguided idea of national democracy over more-proven systems of aristocratic or oligarchical rule, like in a more-traditional commercial republic
   3. It created the 17th Amendment. Now the Senate is elected by the masses, instead of rightfully selected by the state legislatures
   4. It created the 26th Amendment. This lowered the voting age from 21 to 18 in response to the 18-year-olds being conscripted to serve in Vietnam and not being able to vote. An 18-year-old is still an 18-year old. Being in the military doesn't make him or her any more informed.
   5. It did away with debtor's prison. Now there is no legal consequence to a borrower screwing over a bank and causing a recession
   6. It keeps all religions tax-exempt, but it taxes all other for-profit businesses
   7. Liberals want the US involved in every conflict all over the world when we should just let other countries fight on their own without our help. We should stick to our own shores to save our government money. Then terrorists would finally leave us alone since we aren't interfering in their countries anymore
   8. Liberalism convinced every idiot that he or she should go to college (and it even helps some of them pay for it), when universities should be and always have been the domain of the upper-intellectual classes. Colleges went from being respectable institutions of higher learning to goofball asylums of drinking and debauchery (and failures).
   9. It discarded traditional etiquette and social norms to the point that we are now in a self-centered intellectual Dark Age with no high culture
   10. It criticizes and limits tobacco smoking in an attempt to destroy it while trying to legalize marijuana smoking. That makes no sense.

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      gmwilliamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Made many good points here! Response#8 is sadly true.  People graduate from college, still illiterate and clueless to say the least.

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      Old-Empresarioposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      I'll say this; paying for your kids to go to college is probably the riskiest investment you'll ever make

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      gmwilliamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      First, assess the reputation of the college & your children.  If a child is serious, studious,&academic,SEND him/her to college. Otherwise make him/her work part of the way through college-that will make him/her APPRECIATE IT MORE!

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      Old-Empresarioposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      No need to shout

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   danicoleposted 9 years ago

   1. Welfare state. Many Non-liberals believe that liberal policies such as welfare has led to a welfare state where the government hands-out free money that encourages poor people to be lazy.
   2. Rise in AIDS/STDS. With sexual liberation, the women's/gay/civil rights movements, some Non-liberals believe led to the loosening of sexual morals (aka people having more sex) which led to STDS/Aids.
   3. National Debt/ Liberals are known to be more "liberal" when it comes to spending money. With social programs like welfare (among other things) many non-liberals believe liberals have allowed our national debt to skyrocket.
   4. Cultural downgrade: Many religious Non-liberals believe that the separation of church and state, allowing evolution to be taught in classrooms, homosexuality, Interracial marriage, ending of segregation, affirmative action and allowing abortion/conception has directly lead to the cultural demise of America.
   5. Mind your business. Liberals see the USA as a great democratic and human rights model that should help foreign governments in need. Even so, many Non-liberals believe that USA should mind their own business (Non-interventionism), stop giving away money and let other countries handle their own problems.
   6. Big government. Many Non-liberals believe that since liberals support a bigger government (more government interference), the government will becomes more tyrannical. This leads to many infringements on constitutional and amendment rights (gun rights, property rights, freedom of speech).
   7. Legalization of pot (medical or not) has further lead to the cultural demise of America. Liberals usually support the legalization of pot. Non-liberals believe that pot legalization will lead to more addiction/ crimes.
   8. Allowing immigration. Liberals also generally support immigration. Non-liberals believe immigration has led to the thief of Americans citizens’ jobs and threatens the cultural "homogeneous" white populations in America.
   9. Liberal/ white guilt. Many non-liberals believe that many liberals suffer from white/liberal guilt. To lessen that guilt the Liberals adopt programs such as affirmative action that seen as unfair and racist to non-liberals.
   10. Global warming. Liberals typically support global warming policies. Many non-liberal don't believe that global warming exists and thinks global warming is just another way to create unnecessary laws that will lead to wasteful spending and the further infringement on constitutional rights.

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