Is a vote for UKIP a vote for labour?

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   one2get2noposted 10 years ago

   Is a vote for UKIP a vote for labour?

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   aguasilverposted 10 years ago

   No, I don't think it is, Liebour is so discredited in any rational persons eyes that they should be impossible to elect next May.
   
   UKIP exist because the two main parties have lost touch with what people want in the UK, Liebour deliberately created mass unrestricted immigration in order to diminish the sovereign nature of the UK.
   
   Immigration is one of UKIPs main support gatherers.
   
   They represent the working man, which was traditionally Liebours role, however the working man is no longer Andy Capp, and knows full well that Liebour cannot deliver a socialist nirvana.
   
   What the ordinary Brit seems to want is a no bullshit bunch of politicians who have actually worked outside of government and know what real life is about, they want to be able to get on with working and living unhindered by the social engineering that the current crop of professional politicos, with their degrees in social manipulation cannot provide.
   
   I think it should be a refreshing change to have some amateurs in power who do what feels good rather than what their bankster masters tell them.
   
   BTW I will not have a vote, I escaped the UK 27 years ago, but I still hanker after what used to exist.

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   alancaster149posted 10 years ago

   Labour under Ed Miliband is as likely to lose out to UKIP as the Tories under David Cameron, if not more.
   Our immigration woes were 'embedded' by Teflon Tony (Blair) and his eagerness to encourage EU as well as non-EU labour migrants to Britain. A 'soft touch' approach to benefits might have bankrupted the state by the time his successor Gordon Brown exited Downing Street. Everyone wants to come here because our benefits system is riddled with loopholes. Claimants were better off on benefits than getting jobs. And overseas claimants who came in as stateless refugees were given accommodation at the expense of those on the housing list. Even those such as Abu Hamza, who publicly denounced Brits as 'godless and corrupt' were housed and paid benefits.
   Without the (meddling, unelected) EU dinosaurs such as Jean-Claud Junckers, immigration can be controlled from within Britain, and legal loopholes can be closed as can also meddling legal Eurocrats in Strasbourg be ignored. Similarly we wouldn't be expected to yield £1.7bn just because we did better than even Germany.
   And the 'gravy train'? Former Labour leader Neil Kinnock and wife Glenys would have to surrender their season tickets or pay their way.
   I think Ed Miliband's got a bigger headache coming, as has Nick Clegg. Their seats in the north of England are as much at risk from Nigel Farage as David Cameron's party anywhere.
   Whoever wakes up first before May 2015 will be in Downing Street the day after. They're all under starter's orders.

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