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  1. gmwilliams profile image82
    gmwilliamsposted 9 years ago

    To Republicans,Conservatives, Moderates, Moderate Democrats, Independents,& Libertarians out there,

    why do some extreme Liberals & Leftists strongly portend that in the United States, that the only way for poor people to live decently is income redistribution from the wealthier class & the yet more creation of even more social entitlement programs as the poor are INCAPABLE of becoming socioeconomically successful by their own efforts? Why do they also incessantly refute this premise instead of believing that there are poor people who became socioeconomically successful through their own efforts through education & smart work in addition to a more positive mindset?

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    Sri Tposted 9 years ago

    The reason financial aid was implimented was because lots of poor people had been held down by law, economically for over 200 years. Not allowed to have adequate educations and in the beginning not even allowed to read. So if they were confined to the poorest sections of the city, it was harder to even conceive a "positive mindset". A few always did break the cycle. But it was still an uphill battle even a hundred years ago. In the 1960's laws started to change. Today, even if they are from a ghetto, they can still get rich. Because there are more opportunities. The society has changed. Diversity is in. The workforce is more open to everybody. Discrimination is illegal. Politics, medicine, science, business, religion, sports, everything is open. Even slum habits and street/attitudes are being marketed through art and music. It brings in billions of dollars to corporations every year. That could never have happened 70 years ago.

  3. dashingscorpio profile image80
    dashingscorpioposted 9 years ago

    It's a "catch 22" in regard that most people want to (hold adults responsible for their bad choices) and yet (no one wants to see a child go without the basic necessities) simply because they're offspring of irresponsible adults.
    It's almost a hypocrisy for example to be against abortion and at the same time tell a poor woman after she does have her child not to expect any help.
    Most people are in favor of offering a "hand up" to (temporarily help) those at the bottom to improve their lives. In fact many religious teachings would not condone turning one's back on children, the elderly, the ill, or the poor. Most poor children become poor adults.
    It's far easier to legislate government programs that offer financial relief than it is to control poor decision making by (adult individuals) in a free society. As of yet there is no way to funnel money or help to children without their guardian or parent benefiting in some way.
    Truth be told money always finds a way to get spent!
    I imagine those who are in favor of more social programs will point out how trillions of dollars are spent on wars, billions spent on space exploration, or is given away annually to other countries as aid. The debate is always about how not if money will be spent.
    There are always going to be people at the bottom and many of them will be children who by no fault of their own were born to irresponsible people. Every nation has to decide for itself if it's going to provide a "floor" or basic living standard for the poorest of it's poor. Naturally the richer a nation is the better off it's poorest citizens will be when compared to third world countries. So far no one has come up with a viable solution to save people from themselves!

    1. ginosblog profile image61
      ginosblogposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Why can't the poor woman keep her pants on? If she can't afford a child shouldn't she be using protection. I'm not paying for her stupidity! Many at the bottom don't want to improve their lives. Improve themselves for help. If not , no help!

    2. gmwilliams profile image82
      gmwilliamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Gino, totally agree.Poor people should be more responsible in terms of reproductive choices. If they can't afford children, use birth control or.SELF CONTROL, it is easy as 1-2-3. You're right that MOST poor people DON'T want to improve THEMSELVES!

  4. ginosblog profile image61
    ginosblogposted 9 years ago

    The poor are held down by laziness and the rich are held up by inherited or earned money's. The middle class works it's behinds off to make sure their family has what it needs or to run a small business and a payroll for it's employees. The Democrat's think they are buying votes by buying the poor and the illegals. The democrat's are the one's behind giving money away to those that do not deserve it and taking it away from the one's that do! Just like now, Obama wants to have a "free" 60 Billion dollar Junior college program to buy the votes of the college students they lost in the recent election. By hook, crook, and lying about his back ground Obama was elected as our first Black President and all he knows how to do is Social Organize and raise money and acquire votes for the lack luster Party to which he belongs.
    Who do you think will pay for the "FREE" College Program"? Borrowed money 1st, then the Middle Class and their kids!
    I'm not saying the Republican's are perfect. Far from it. But all I have seen from the Obama Administration is lies and deception. They have gone as far as declared themselves to be small businesses to avoid Obamacare! … e-scandal/

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      Sri Tposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      I'm not saying the Republican's are perfect. Amen! We already saw the destruction they are capable of.  They had the country headed towards the "Great Depression". Not helping anybody was not the answer either.That's why Obama won twice.

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      wba108@yahoo.composted 9 years agoin reply to this

      I think you you identified the problem, clear and simple. Leftist's and liberals benefit from the misery of others, for power and votes. Envy rots the bones, it's easier to blame the rich than take responsibility for yourself.


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