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Do you believe that the IRS has outlived its purpose? What alternatives do you

  1. gmwilliams profile image85
    gmwilliamsposted 2 years ago

    Do you believe that the IRS has outlived its purpose?  What alternatives do you suggest

    regarding taxation?


  2. Old-Empresario profile image83
    Old-Empresarioposted 2 years ago

    Hello Grace,
    I cannot think of any other agencies that could perform the function of the IRS. Many agencies have efficiency problems, but the IRS is generally regarded as one of the more successful ones if one can believe that.
    Or are we talking about repealing income tax? Honestly, that could hypothetically be done. But it would mean completely cutting all defense spending, defense-related spending, foreign military adventures, foreign-policy-related spending, para-military and espionage spending, a significant amount of federal law enforcement spending; it would mean legalizing all drugs and just about everything else neocons would never want to do. Then, austerity would have to take the form of higher-level bureaucracy (does the President need a personal staff of 2,000 people?, Does the Secretary of State need to travel to foreign countries when we have ambassadors (do we need so many ambassadors?)?, Do we need dozens of under-Secretaries and Deputy Secretaries of Defense?, can DHS' agencies do well without the bureaucracy of the DHS (est. 2002) over them?, etc.). The civilian agencies that keep the roads repaired, float school loans, operate national parks, regulate food and drugs and everything else might be able to survive from funding from other sources of revenue other than a direct income tax. In other words, the income tax basically funds the global American Empire. Of course, there is the interest on the public debt to consider as well. Then, do we want to go further and cut Social Security and Medicare?--both of which are not actually federal income, but are trust funds for ourselves that we put into all our lives (media and politicians call them "entitlements" for some reason). But all of the other national security/police state cuts mentioned above could not really happen either. We more or less "crossed the Rubicon" when we became the caretakers of 10,000 nuclear weapons. This sort of reorganization could never be done by a pluralistic government like ours.

  3. lisavollrath profile image95
    lisavollrathposted 2 years ago

    I'd like to hear some proposals on abolishing the IRS, in favor of a national sales tax for all items except food. I live in Texas, where there is no state income tax, and we feed the state kitty with sales tax. We're taxed on everything except non-convenience, non-junk foods---so, potato chips are taxed, but potatoes are not; pre-cooked chicken from the deli is taxed, but raw chicken from the meat department is not. It seems to work pretty well. I think we also pay higher property taxes on our non-homestead homes, so my primary residence gets a lower rate, but a second vacation home, which is not my primary residence, wouldn't.

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    Joshtheplumberposted 2 years ago

    The true purpose of the IRS is gravely misunderstood and therefore, whether its purpose is outlived is a matter of perspective. What made the IRS even possible was the 16th amendment ratified the same year as the Federal Reserve Act. The 2 programs work together to basically take 5% of everything YOU earn and give it to British Royalty. Don't make me explain the intricate details. As for why, you must also understand that we never really won the Revolutionary War nor the War of 1812. Rather, the British simply got tired of fighting with us. The reality is, we are still subjects of the Crown but in a much more subtle and subversive manner. One in which we are trained and indoctrinated to believe we are free, but are not. The IRS is basically the collection agency for our queen. Any new system which does not allow our 'owners' to get their share will not be tolerated. In the event of default, there will be martial law, and we will quickly discover that EVERYTHING we think we own is merely borrowed. Even our bodies.