If you are pro choice, why limit choices in other areas?

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   wba108@yahoo.composted 3 years ago

   If you are pro choice, why limit choices in other areas?
   
   Those who claim to be pro choice are often against the choice to own an assault weapon, the type light bulb to use, the choice to put their social security retirement funds in a private account, coercion to purchase healthcare, oppose voucher for school choice, limiting soft drink cup size choices, to join a union or pay union dues, and of course favor raising taxes to fund social programs that limit funds available for individuals to choose which charity they would prefer to fund.

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   junksellerposted 3 years ago

   In my mind one of the gravest problems facing communication in our country is how people almost always refuse to acknowledge both sides of an issue.
   
   In the abortion debate one side shouts that the other hates woman, the other side shouts that the other murders babies. The reality is that nobody hates women and nobody wants to murder babies. Both of those things must be weighed and when they are weighed by different people, some people lean in favor of woman having choice over their bodies, and others lean in favor of preventing the death of unborn babies, but to talk about the issue as if it were black and white, as if there was only one right universal answer, and without any acknowledgment of the MORAL weighing that must take place, is unhelpful and dishonest.
   
   The same is pretty much true of every other thing you listed. People don't ban assault weapons because they want to take away someone else's choice. They do so because they themselves value their choice of not being shot by one more.
   
   Light bulb is a choice between someone else's right to live in the dark ages and my choice to continue having a planet to live on.
   
   Soft drink size is your right to gluttony versus my right not to have insurance be a gazillion dollars a month in order to pay to squeegee out your clogged veins and triple bypass surgeries.
   
   Etc.
   
   It sounds like what you are really arguing for is libertarianism, but then we aren't a libertarian society - by choice. We have chosen to be democratic with a tinge of socialism. We have chosen to be collectively entangled in a myriad of ways (like unions and insurance and social programs).
   
   It is really unfortunate that our public discourse has disintegrated to such a pathetic state. As long as people do not acknowledge the truth of their opponents position, we will never get anywhere. We will just continue building and burning strawmen of each other in an ideological trench warfare of stupidity.

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      Austinstarposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      Truth! There are more ways than TWO to look at an issue. Lots of factors must be considered before MANDATING personal choices. And when it comes to our own personal bodies, it's up to US to choose the right way to go, not government.

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      wba108@yahoo.composted 3 years agoin reply to this

      I agree, political discussions must be civil. Unfortunately, political correctness, has removed from public discussion many of the most important issues.

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   tsadjatkoposted 3 years ago

   
   
   Interesting question WBA but...
   
   I know that you know it can't be answered and I know that you know why.
   
   Someone else might say, "Why is that?"
   
   I would tell them why, because "pro choice" as used in opposition to pro - life is a ruse. "Pro-choice people" are not for women having the right to chose murder or life for their baby. Have you ever seen "pro-choice activists" promoting life? Never, all they promote is abortion?
   
   If they were truly for choice wouldn't they give both sides equal weight, equal promotion, equal legitimacy? THEY DON'T and no one can refute that.
   
   So you see, there really is no such thing as "pro-choice" and that is the reason there is no answer to your question. Pro-choice doesn't mean pro-choice, it means pro murder.
   
   So if someone is pro murder but promotes the ruse of being "pro-choice" simply to disguise their true intent and make it sound palatable to an undiscerning public how can you even ask why they aren't pro-choice in other areas - they aren't really pro choice to begin with.
   
   This is how virtually all liberal and progressive policies fail scrutiny every time, the are deceptions, contrived to hide the truth.
   
   But then I know you, and I know you know this, and I suspect you have this question to demonstrate just how illogical "pro-choice" position is. It's illogical because "pro-choice" doesn't really exist.

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      junksellerposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      Nobody promotes murder or abortion. They promote a woman's choice to decide what happens to herself. That truth doesn't change no matter how often you lie about it. Nor is it logically difficult (for most of us).

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      wba108@yahoo.composted 3 years agoin reply to this

      TSAD - I agree completely, you're right I've never heard the Pro-choice crowd discuss or promote anything but abortion.

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      Aime Fposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      I think it might seem that way because debate usually centers around abortion. I'm pro-choice, not pro-abortion. I support whatever choice a woman makes, as she knows herself best. I would rather see a baby adopted than aborted but it's HER choice.

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      wba108@yahoo.composted 3 years agoin reply to this

      That's good but I don't believe planned parenthood as a whole, shares your views.

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   tamarawilhiteposted 3 years ago

   Because liberals favor sexual freedom without consequences, but all other freedoms can be curtailed as seen by experts credentialed by other experts and the nanny state.

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      wba108@yahoo.composted 3 years agoin reply to this

      The left seems to only favor freedoms that they see advancing their agenda, they need a  dependent population to maintain there power base, so its in their interest to hasten the demise of the family unit through unrestricted abortions.

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