Carson Supporters, does today's revelation -- Dr. Ben Carson lied about West Poi

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  1. Au fait profile image93
    Au faitposted 2 years ago

    Carson Supporters, does today's revelation -- Dr. Ben Carson lied about West Point, matter to you?

    A CNN report accused Dr. Ben Carson of lying about key details about his life in his autobiography, “Gifted Hands: The Ben Carson Story.” His campaign admitted to Politico’s Kyle Cheney that he lied about another key detail in his autobiography — his application and acceptance to West Point.

    In “Gifted Hands,” Carson claimed that when he was 17 years old, he met with General William Westmoreland, and was offered a “full scholarship” to the military academy. There’s no record of such an offer, or of Carson having applied, and there’s no such thing as a “full scholarship” to West Point.

  2. Alternative Prime profile image70
    Alternative Primeposted 2 years ago

    ABSOLUTELY NOT a Carson Supporter here, but whether true or not, it's no BIG revelation to myself and others who follow politics ~ I've always understood the fact that the "Good Doctor" appears to be prone to "Delusional Tendencies", which is actually more of a CONCERN than his apparent Lies ~

    1. Ericdierker profile image52
      Ericdierkerposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Perhaps we are wise to watch. If the "tendencies" seem to continue to manifest, then there is a real disqualification.

    2. Au fait profile image93
      Au faitposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Thank you for sharing your thoughts Alternative.  I try to keep up with what's happening and I have noticed Carson makes some odd statements for sure.

  3. Alex Gutierrez profile image60
    Alex Gutierrezposted 2 years ago

    Not at all, Rubio and/or Cruz will be the main front runner. The fact that you have to get the Hispanic vote for any chance for the republicans to win the presidency it absolutely why they will not put Trump or Carson in the ballot. When you have Bernie Sanders basically picking up all the Black votes with his socialist agenda and Carson seeming more like an, I don't want to sound racist but I don't now another way, Uncle Tom to the black voters then No it doesn't matter. Jeb had his chance, the powers to be are pushing for Rubio, that's it. What I want to know is who are the powers to be. I would like to see transparency in presidential campaign fund raising. That will never happen though because Dems and GOP is all against that. Good read Congress: the Electoral Connection.

    1. Au fait profile image93
      Au faitposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Appreciate your sharing your thoughts Alex.  Mostly agree with you, except I think Trump's statements are attributed to the entire Republican Party regarding Hispanics and I will be surprised if any of them get that vote.

  4. fpherj48 profile image78
    fpherj48posted 2 years ago

    If Carson did in fact fabricate this claim or any other for that matter, it would matter to me if I had been leaning toward supporting him.  However, this is not the case.  I would hope that any and ALL fabrications or lies spoken by candidates would be of concern to the voters as they determine who they ultimately want in the White House. 
    We can easily assure ourselves that Politician =Liar = Politician, but to be faced with blatant and/or proven untruths at this stage of the game, should not be brushed aside.  If it matters enough to someone, I would suggest they investigate thoroughly.
    Myself?  I am quite focused on 2 particular candidates.  While I try to keep up with as much as possible "in general," suffice it to say I have put much effort into these 2 candidates.  By this I mean I am listening to their every word, checking up on their records/history (politically) and basically feel I'm doing due diligence ( my homework, as they say?)   

    At this point and time of America's numerous woes & apparent insurmountable ISSUES, Au fait, between you and me, I've had to struggle to maintain my pride & patriotism against such high frustration.  I do not want to succumb to giving up entirely on my privilege & responsibility to vote.  I also need to know I'm making an educated decision.  Apparently we have more than enough individuals in the great USA, who go to the voting booths to play "eenie, meenie, mynie moe!"

    1. Au fait profile image93
      Au faitposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Paula, thank you for sharing your thoughts on this important issue. Dr. Carson was on TV defending himself las' night & of course his supporters were doing same. So many strange things coming out about this man that it's hard to know what to beli

    2. fpherj48 profile image78
      fpherj48posted 2 years agoin reply to this

      I saw some of that. It's the closest to angry/hyper he's displayed ever. How can we possibly know who or what to believe? There are specific people who should remain within the realm of their forte. For Dr. Ben this would be the pediatric OR.

    3. Au fait profile image93
      Au faitposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Paula, I agree.  Carson should stick to what he knows.  He doesn't seem to know beans about politics.  I guess he didn't pay attention before to the way the media digs everything up on pres. candidates, cuz he's whining about it as if surprised.

    4. fpherj48 profile image78
      fpherj48posted 2 years agoin reply to this

      LOL!  I know, au fait. I saw his rant & whine. I used to laugh at my late husband for "talking" to the TV.....but there I was saying aloud, "SERIOUSLY Dude? Looks like U spent way too much time in the O.R.!  U didn't KNOW this about our media?"..

  5. RTalloni profile image88
    RTalloniposted 2 years ago

    Best to check the so-called news story. Carson is clear that he never applied.  Spokespersons point out that the Politico story is an outright lie, but that's not news.  Perhaps the worst that can be said is that Carson's original wording was not the best choice, even though it was most certainly understandable in context, which is not lying.

    1. Au fait profile image93
      Au faitposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Thank you for taking time to respond to this issue RTalloni.  I think there may be enough misunderstanding to go around.  Even so, Carson has made a lot of strange statements that make people wonder where he's coming from.

    2. RTalloni profile image88
      RTalloniposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      His response to media was admirable, as are his responses to many other issues, but concern re him on the TPP (treaty) reflects an ignorance of what it actually is, the ruthless partners it will subject American workers to, and its entire substance.

  6. Kathleen Cochran profile image81
    Kathleen Cochranposted 2 years ago

    There are a couple of "tells" in this account.  First, nobody gets a scholarship to West Point.  You get a nomination after you go through an intense application process that is more involved than filling out a standard college application.  And a nomination has to be granted by an elected official, i.e., a congressman, a senator, or  the president - not an Army officer, even a general. No one pays to go the West Point, in fact, cadets receive a salary (1/2 a second lieutenant's pay) plus all almost all expenses are paid.

    There may be explanations for these discrepancies.  Other candidates have had to explain some of their circumstances.  The fact that he did not go to West Point might be enough of an explanation for making misstatements about his experience.

    I wouldn't support Carson for a variety of other reasons, but this incident would not be a deciding factor by itself.

    1. Au fait profile image93
      Au faitposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Thank you for taking time to share so much info with us Kathleen.  Almost seems like Carson is trying to sabotage himself.

  7. FatFreddysCat profile image97
    FatFreddysCatposted 2 years ago

    Dude's a Froot Loop. He thinks the Great Pyramids were grain silos too.

    1. Au fait profile image93
      Au faitposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Thank you for your thoughts Keith.  I got a laugh.  Carson does make some interesting statements that cause one to pause.  I don't think once can take the man seriously as a presidential contender and think he should stick with what he knows.

  8. Shyron E Shenko profile image81
    Shyron E Shenkoposted 2 years ago

    Yes, the lies matter to me. Mr. Carson said that he did not say that, but it is my understanding that it is written in his book.  Did he write the book or is it ghost written. If the latter is the cast, did he read his own book. If he did not write his book then that is two lies, if he had a ghost writer, that means he lied to the ghost.
    Any way you scare it up, Ben Carson lied.

    1. Au fait profile image93
      Au faitposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Thank you for commenting on this issue Shyron.  I think he wrote his book himself, but I didn't check.  Carson does seem to be shooting himself in the foot on a regular basis.

  9. bradmasterOCcal profile image30
    bradmasterOCcalposted 2 years ago

    I am not supporting anyone right now. But when I read the question, I thought about the Obama citizenship, and school grades issues that went on forever.

    Citizenship matters because it is a requirement for the presidency.

    But, school stuff shouldn't be important. Experience is the better education, because it is real and not academic.

    1. Alternative Prime profile image70
      Alternative Primeposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      The Pathetic Charade about President Obama's Citizenship was just that, a CHARADE ~ In the REAL World here on Planet EARTH, there was NEVER any question as to where he was born ~

    2. bradmasterOCcal profile image30
      bradmasterOCcalposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Citizenship of all presidential candidates should be vetted in the same manner as the government vets to people that want top secret clearance. It is a valid question, and Obama was the one that prolonged it. But that is not the point of this ?

    3. Justin Earick profile image83
      Justin Earickposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Obama's place of birth was only ever in question to racist lunatics who live in an alternate reality.
      Cruz was actually born in Canada & McCain was born overseas too. Only nationalistic nativists see conspiracy in any one of these.

    4. bradmasterOCcal profile image30
      bradmasterOCcalposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      One more time, the citizenship of the presidential candidates is always valid, and I don't think the government vets out these candidates sufficiently. Period.

 
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