Do All Trump Supporters Agree with South Carolina's Trump Supporters?

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   Sychophantasticposted 8 years ago

   Here's the link to the poll, which was taken in February:
   
   http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main … leads.html
   
   Here are some of the things that South Carolina's Trump supporters apparently believe:
   
   80% support a temporary ban on Muslims entering the U.S. (9% oppose)
   38% wish the South had won the Civil War (only 24% were glad the North won)
   31% would support a ban on homosexuals entering the United States (the poll does not show opposition, but no more than 17% of any other Republican candidates supports supported this notion. I think the point is that it's a large percentage relative to other voters)
   62% support a national registry for Muslims (23% oppose)
   40% support shutting down all Mosques in the U.S. (36% oppose)
   70% think the Confederate flag should fly over their state capital. (only 20% want it taken down)
   
   These are some disturbing figures. Do you think these opinions are shared by most Trump supporters or is this an anomaly?

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      wildernessposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      You have chosen figures from the far, far right and asked if all conservatives (Trump supporters) agree.  Rather obviously, they do not any more than all liberals agree with the opinions of the far, far left (ban all guns, allow complete immigration freedom for anyone reaching our borders, free total health care (for anyone needing it - someone else will pay for it), etc.
      
      You have to know better - why then ask such a question?  Just to run down Trump over a relative handful of radicals?

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         Sychophantasticposted 8 years agoin reply to this

         Trump has offered some very radical opinions, so I think it's fair to ask, in a way, if he's fomenting the worst in us. Notice, I did not specifically ask if conservatives support SC's radical notions because that's not fair and I know most don't. However, Trump is not a conservative and he's barely a reflection of the GOP. He's all over the place. But one thing we know, his support comes from fear because, so far, that's all he's been doing, inciting fear. Again, I was very careful not to paint conservatives with the Trump supporter brush. And, if it makes you happy, I do not believe that most conservatives hold these views, but it's hard to wonder about those who support Trump.

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            wildernessposted 8 years agoin reply to this

            Do you then think that there is a major difference between Trump supporters and all conservatives?  Are liberals voting for Trump now?  Are large numbers of conservatives voting Clinton (if so, why is she so low in the polls?)?
            
            Like so very many on the Clinton team, she is getting their votes purely and simply because they hate or fear Trump.  An irrational fear, IMO, as no politician likes him and he will have real difficulty getting anything done on the Hill, while Clinton has a massive power base and will accomplish a great many more of her misguided programs.
            
            As far as radical opinions, his wall (also proposed by Clinton, years ago) and the temporary ban on Muslin immigration (also seriously talked about by others) seem to be the most controversial.  Yet Trump is far from the only one talking about either one...

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               Sychophantasticposted 8 years agoin reply to this

               Wilderness, it's like we live in alternate universes. I think we're starting to see increasing numbers of conservatives come out for Clinton. I believe today the first GOP Congressman endorsed here and then another high level Bush Administration person in Florida left the GOP and said she would vote Clinton if Florida was close. You say she's low in the polls, but recent polls show her 9 points up.
               
               That said, I'm surprised you support him. His temperment is frightening. He's like an adolescent who lashes out whenever anybody is mean to him. To say he won't do damage to the U.S. because Congress won't work with him seems like a risky assertion. Seems like he will damage foreign relations dramatically. His attack on the Muslim gold star family appears to be something of an aha moment for many. Maybe he's finally gone too far?

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                  ahorsebackposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                  Hogwash ,  a couple of idiot GOP opportunists cross over and you all of a sudden you think that  it will become a tidal wave ? Please .     The horribly dirty tricks of Obama's latest speech  about  an "unfit " Trump and Hillary's mafia  tricks are going  to bring them both  down !  I predict this election as an almost near" land  slide" for Trump .
                  
                  I am glad that so many of the Sanders voters too -- See every  trick of the ethnically -racially biased DNC  !  Essentially  the DNC in the latest E-mails  ,  called Sanders out as" not wanting a Jew " in the mix of candidates !   
                  
                  How does THAT sound to  democrats ?  Please explain that one ?
                  
                  How short  the voting democrats memory is .

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                     Sychophantasticposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                     This list of GOP support for Hillary and those who won't endorse Trump is long. And if it makes you happy, I have always despised the DNC. This most recent revelation just makes worse my feelings about them.

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                     Sychophantasticposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                     Meg Whitman just announced her support for Hillary.

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                  wildernessposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                  Yes, we live in alternate universes, where anything a Democrat does is wonderful and Republican actions are automatically evil.  Where if we pretend Democratic malfeasance doesn't exist, then it doesn't.
                  
                  But I'm surprised you can support her.  Even though Democrats can do no wrong, her attitude is astounding.  She's like a medieval Lord, who makes the law without regard to the people it affects and follows rules and laws only when he pleases.  Her constant attacks on the constitutional rights of law abiding citizens, her refusal to follow the simplest of rules that everyone is subject to, her complete disdain for anyone but herself are the marks of a megalomaniac that has completely lost touch with the people and doesn't care who she hurts in her climb to the top.  Perhaps she's gone too far this time with the rigging of an election?
                  
                  So it goes both ways   Trump is a loudmouth boor with almost zero political power or influence while Clinton is a self appointed King with an enormous power base on the Hill and a complete disdain for the people (black or white, Muslim or Christian, male or female, straight or gay) of the country she would govern.  Who do you think will get things done when it comes time to call in the political favors to promote a particular program?

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                     Sychophantasticposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                     I definitely do not think that everything Democrats do is great. And I'm actually for more limited government. I think there's way too much government in our lives. In fact, I live in a community that's the poster child for liberal government out-of-control. It drives me crazy.
                     
                     Just curious, where do you get most of your news information, Wilderness?

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                        wildernessposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                        Why the pretense that Clinton is great then?  Why pretend she won't harm the country with ever bigger government and ever more welfare?  When she invites 10 million illegals to join in at the public trough?  When she bypasses the constitution in limiting what "shall not be infringed" just to pander to voters?.  When she ignores security protocols to save herself a few seconds?  When she lies to congress?  When she has, and uses, vast political power to her personal best advantage?  When she sells political favors to foreign countries that donated to her charity that returned just 10% of it as actual charity?
                        
                        Why pretend that she will neither harm the country or it's people?

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                           Sychophantasticposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                           Again, where do you get your news information mostly?

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                              wildernessposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                              TV, periodicals, internet, links in this forum, friends and family.

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                                 Sychophantasticposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                                 What TV news do you watch primarily?

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                           Sychophantasticposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                           And just to sort of answer your question, comparing the last 8 years to the previous 8 years, I'm comfortable supporting policies that have resulted in $2/gallon gas (hey, it was among Romney's promises), 5% unemployment, 20 million more people with health insurance, and a stock market at almost 19k.

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                              wildernessposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                              If gas pricing came from political policies, it was from Republican insistence we drill more wells.  The rest began with Bush's budget in his last year, starting the recovery.  As far as requiring more charity from the "haves" to "have nots"; I have some of that wonderful health insurance; It is absoslutely worthless (except to line the pockets of insurance companies) as the deductible is far more than I can afford to pay.  At best I can get but a few office visits during the year, which I could do before I had to pay for a government mandated product.
                              
                              No one but a liberal swallowing liberal claims believes that only 5% of working class people are out of jobs.  Where do you get YOUR information, and do you examine and question it or just swallow whatever you're told?

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                                 Sychophantasticposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                                 http://www.ncsl.org/research/labor-and- … pdate.aspx
                                 
                                 4.9%

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                                    wildernessposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                                    Yep - only 5% of people actively searching for work through the unemployment system are unemployed.
                                    
                                    What about the others?  We won't mention them so we can give kudos to Obama?

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                                       colorfuloneposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                                       Approximately 40% of Americans who are unemployed have given up seeking employment, that's about 94 million people who are not listed as unemployed because they are not actively seeking.  They are off the record, and that is how they come up with 5% unemployment...they just don't count people who gave up the good fight because of the lack of jobs.

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                                       Sychophantasticposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                                       And how does that total figure compare to other years? How about 2008, 2004... I am having this same conversation elsewhere. Fine, unemployment is 102 million people. You can throw out any figure you want, but if it's thrown out in a vacuum, IT HAS NO MEANING. You need some context.

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                                       Sychophantasticposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                                       So by your math, colorfulone, 235 million people are unemployed? (94 million represents 40% of the total number of unemployed) Do I have that right?

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                                 Sychophantasticposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                                 Where do you get your information?

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                           Sychophantasticposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                           Of the many Democratic candidates, she would not have been my first choice.

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                     Sychophantasticposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                     Hey look! An actual good Donald Trump proposal!!
                     
                     http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/artic … astructure

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                     colorfuloneposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                     Hillary would rate very high on the Machiavellianism test. Her MO is "Never tell anyone the real reason you did something unless it is useful to do so."  Which would account for her long history of lies and deceptions.

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                        Sychophantasticposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                        https://datavizblog.com/2016/07/24/poli … bert-mann/

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      ahorsebackposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      You are picking the more conservative , southern Biased state  [including remaining southern rebel bias ]  for your example .    Makes me wonder just what the most liberal numbers are polling , say California ?   Have you presented That ? No - why because you are presenting  an extreme liberal  opinion ,You actually sound like most media outlets today - I'm sure  as an extreme lib you are out of one , want a job , go to the media !

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         Sychophantasticposted 8 years agoin reply to this

         Sure, let's compare the radical left and the radical right. I'm guessing the radical left in California wants single payer health care and amnesty for illegal immigrants and restrictive gun control. The radical right wants to exterminate homosexuals and forcibly remove all Muslims from the country.

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         Sychophantasticposted 8 years agoin reply to this

         Trump spokeswoman Katrina Pierson had a recent interesting defense of Donald Trump's attack on the Khan family. She blamed Obama and Hillary Clinton for their son's death in 2004. See if you can figure out what's wrong with that statement.

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   colorfuloneposted 8 years ago

   No!

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      Sychophantasticposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Are you going to explain how 235 million people are unemployed in this country?

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      Sychophantasticposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      http://www.newsweek.com/2016/08/12/dona … 86091.html

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   Sychophantasticposted 8 years ago

   Is this video characteristic of most Trump supporters:
   
   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9YPYRaeTW0

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