American Conservatives, do you think Liberals who believe in Christ are real Chr

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   Kylyssaposted 9 years ago

   American Conservatives, do you think Liberals who believe in Christ are real Christians?
   
   Many of my Liberal Christian friends are puzzled that, when speaking with Conservatives, they sometimes find themselves referred to as non-Christians and the Conservative perspective referred to as the Christian one. Sometimes, they even find themselves referred to as atheists, Pagans, or un-Christian people when they don't support the creation of evangelical Christian laws. Is this just a regional phenomenon?
   
   If you are an American Conservative, please explain why you either do or do not think Liberal or progressive people who believe in and love Christ are or are not Christians.
   
   

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   jackclee lmposted 9 years ago

   As with many issues, there are two sides. In my belief, I think there are at least two types of Liberals. The elites who do not believe in God and the Christians that do but are more "liberal" in their interpretation of the Bible. Anyone who believes in Christ by definition are Christians. The problem comes with practice. Do they walk the walk? Some politicians in my opinion are the worst. They will claim to be Christians and yet vote on issues that hurt the Christian faith and believes and practices. It was never the intention of our founding father's to create the "separation of church and state"  as defined by the Supreme Court and pushed by the ACLU. Many of today's problems and division could be traced to that. When saying Merry Christmas and Christmas tree becomes a toxic term, we have a problem. Our country was founded on Judeo Christian principles and that was what created the most prosperous nation in all of history. We are a unique nation and it has been undermined by the progressive left of this country. To answer your question, the elites of liberals are clearly non-Christian and in fact anti-Christian. The other progressive Christians in my humble opinion are misguided in their believe. Both have created and contributed to the negative results we see today.

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      Kylyssaposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      What is your definition of "walking the walk?" I'm trying to understand why conservatives in my area call my Christian friends atheists, Pagans, and non-Christians. Thank you for your valuable input.

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      jackclee lmposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      One clear example is some Catholic politicians such as Nancy Pelosi and Cuomo in NY and Kennedy MA and others, who consistently voted for ProChoice and support Planned Parenthood, the largest abortion clinics.

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      Kylyssaposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Thank you. Does it apply to all liberal political decisions such as supporting gun regulations and healthcare for the poor or is it only not walking the walk when the person supports the right to choose abortion or to use birth control?

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      jackclee lmposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      It is too short to answer your question in 250 characters. Abortion was just one example. Most liberals don't have a good understanding of our Constitution. I suggest reading my hub on Civics 101.

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      Kylyssaposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Sorry, that 250 character limit is the pits. I'm off to read your hub although I'm not sure if the Constitution qualifies as part of the Bible or of Christian faith.

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   savvydatingposted 9 years ago

   Yes, of course. A believer is a believer. I do know that within the Catholic faith, one is not considered to be a true Catholic if say, one believes that abortion is acceptable, although most Catholics I know don't spend any time worrying about that.
   On the Protestant side, there is a "suspicion" that Catholics are misguided (and possibly pagan) because they believe in praying to saints. So my point is that there are ideological differences between sects, but those differences do not cancel out what is in a person's heart. A true Christian listens to the Holy Spirit, which is there to guide and admonish us. Most of us, including myself, simply go on about our merry way doing as we please. That is not true Christisnity.
   Are you from the south? Perhaps you are experiencing a regional problem. I don't know. But such so-called Christians are missing the point, which is to love one another, to give help to the poor and to honor life. I am a miserable example of a Christian, and probably do not deserve the title. At this juncture, I call myself one who believes in a Higher Power and who has respect for the true tenets of Christianity.
   But to answer your question, liberals can be Christian if they are following the tenets of Christisnity. Very few people are true Christians. But there have been many. Those people would easily lay down their life for their faith. Their understanding of the spiritual life is anything but superficial. Saints do walk among us, but they are rare.
   But, we all have to start somewhere, right?

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      savvydatingposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Please pardon my typos. I'm on my iPhone and I do not type well on it.

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      pagesvoiceposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      I love your answer. If it was in my power your response would be given a gold star award.

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      Kylyssaposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      I live in West Michigan, and it's so pervasive that I used to have a few floral assistants who complained if they had to help deliver wedding flowers to what they called "non-Christian Churches." Thank you for your thoughtful answer!

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   wba108@yahoo.composted 9 years ago

   Because generally speaking liberal progressive beliefs are opposed to Christianity. Here are a few examples:
   
   1) The bible says I formed you in your mothers womb, liberals generally do not consider an unborn child a human being.
   
   2) the bible condemns homosexuality, liberals promote it
   
   3) The Bible states that all scripture is God breathed, liberals  don't belief the scriptures or cherry pick them.
   
   4) The bible states that if a man doesn't work he shouldn't eat, liberals reward those who refuse to work
   
   5) the bible says thou shalt not steal, but liberals believe in legalized theft (wealth redistribution) via the government
   
   6) The bible says the Jews are God's chosen people and to pray for the peace of Jerusalem, liberals tend to side with the enemies of the Jews.
   
   7) The bible states that we're born into sin, liberals believe that man is perfectible under the right conditions.
   
   8)The bible says we're supposed to make disciples of all nations, liberal Christians tend to oppose witnessing to the unsaved.
   
   Now I don't believe all liberal Christians are unsaved, I think many are either misguided, spiritually immature or both. There is only one type of true Christian, "one who trusts in Jesus".

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      Kylyssaposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Thank you for your answer which I take to mean that yes, you consider most liberals to be non-Christians because they do not follow all biblical laws from both Old and New Testaments as you say you do.

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      wba108@yahoo.composted 9 years agoin reply to this

      It's not about the laws, its about the heart but you can't know God while being in rebellion to His commands.

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   tamarawilhiteposted 9 years ago

   Yes, but I think many of them are wrong for assuming paying taxes and expecting government programs to solve all the social problems are the "charity" the Bible commands.

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