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Seriously, don't Trump supporters feel a bit betrayed when he trumps himself rep

  1. ptosis profile image77
    ptosisposted 22 months ago

    Seriously, don't Trump supporters feel a bit betrayed when he trumps himself repeatedly with

    an even odious statement as time goes by? Yes being non-PC is his thing and everybody is entertained by it but at one point do supporters say, "OK - that was over the line" I do know that when most people make a decision, it's hard to change their mind but it seem ever more incredulous to believe that Trumpeteers  support  a man who admires tyrants.
    Trump Praises Saddam Hussein Again - condoning the former dictator’s complete disregard for civil liberties & North Korean dictator Kim Jong-un should be given “credit” for taking over and killing his rivals.


    https://usercontent1.hubstatic.com/13090614_f260.jpg

  2. bradmasterOCcal profile image30
    bradmasterOCcalposted 22 months ago

    Why do you think that is over the line or even wrong. What is the context of those statements, and what was the intent of saying them.
    Why aren't you more concerned about the current system and players of both parties that have brought the country to where it is today. If you think we are in a great place today, then that could be the problem.

    Both parties are out of control, and neither party has the interest of the country or the people, yet Trump seems to be different in that regard. What is over the line is not having a functioning government.

    Since the 1970s the US has been declining, and it culminated in the economic meltdown of 2008. Today, we still have the same elements that broke the economy minus the real estate bubble. The financial industry, as well as other super global monopolies are too big for the government to control.

    These are over the line, and Trump is willing to speak about these things and other PC forbidden issues. So outside of Trump who is going to change the current gridlocked system.

    The traditional campaign system is begging for big contributors, and they expect some favors for their financial support. Trump so far has not been playing that game.

    The US has troubles at home regarding civil liberties and not just for minorities. PC chills the freedoms that created this country, so how does the US qualify itself in playing God with the way other countries exist.

    We made a big mistake getting involved over the last 70 years mucking up the world. We haven't won a war since 1898, and yet we are continually in one. Iraq and N Korea today are our failures for trying to change these countries.

    We created the current problems by breaking their existing cultures which were kept in check by dictators. It is like breaking bee hives, and now there is no containment.

    Besides Trump who is going to make the trail of US failures even visible much less changed to success.

    The US history will verify that neither political party has had any real solutions, but both parties have contributed to making problems for us.

    If we keep doing the same thing, why should we expect different and better results.

    What is your candidate or party going to do that is better than what Trump is doing??

    1. ptosis profile image77
      ptosisposted 22 months agoin reply to this

      I do not have a 'party' nor a candidate, I'm independent. What gives me the chills is Trump is the CONTROLLED OPPOSITION for Clinton & no matter what the obvious facts are, Trumpeteers are living in a suspension of disbelief of that fact.

    2. bradmasterOCcal profile image30
      bradmasterOCcalposted 22 months agoin reply to this

      I have no idea what you mean. What is more delusional than Trump's opponents? What obvious facts? What about my comment above? And who are you going to vote for.

    3. ptosis profile image77
      ptosisposted 22 months agoin reply to this

      Look up Controlled OPPOSITION. It's all political kabuki to give the illusion of government for the people and therefore legit. It is not legit. None of it.  It's a facade, window dressing. You are a human being  -being corralled like the rest of us.

    4. bradmasterOCcal profile image30
      bradmasterOCcalposted 22 months agoin reply to this

      ptosis
      What is the basis of your conclusion of controlled opposition? Who is controlling it, and how? In any case, why would I think Clinton would be the better choice. If anything, Sanders would be the controlled opp against Clinton.

    5. ptosis profile image77
      ptosisposted 22 months agoin reply to this

      Trump could of easily ran as a Democrat if he chose different issues to campaign. Trump invited to Chelsea Clinton's wedding. Clintons & Trump are friends.

    6. bradmasterOCcal profile image30
      bradmasterOCcalposted 22 months agoin reply to this

      ptosis
      NY like CA is Democrat owned. If you want to do any kind of proj in NYC u have to get the favor of democrats. Trump is a business person, he knew that and he played to it. He s actually run independent but loyal party voters won't have it.

  3. Alternative Prime profile image76
    Alternative Primeposted 22 months ago

    Delusional Donald has "BETRAYED" his Tiny Group of MINIONs in every way possible, they don't understand that his Candidacy was either a "Publicity Stunt" or he's a "Plant" with one objective, to DESTROY Congressional Republicans, and he's doing an OUTSTANDING Job of that  ~ Whoever can't recognize this Obvious MOTIVATION is well, a "DRUMPF" Fan ~ Texas is Turning Democratic Blue, and WHY Not? Trump stands for EVERYTHING Texans are AGAINST ~ Congressional Republicans & Governors are trying their BEST to Avoid & DISTANCE themselves from his "RADIOACTIVE Self" which is FUTILE for they will be WHIPED Out of Congress in NOV ~ CON-Man Donald's Staff & perhaps he himself personally, are actually Begging "Special INTERESTs" for Donations, an UNLAWFUL Activity, but the ONLY thing he's receiving in return are COMPLAINTs Filed Against him, but what else is NEW? ~ Not a Donor on Planet EARTH would even think of giving Swindler Trump a RED Cent, because they know one way or another, their HARD Earned Money would end Up right in his POCKET and not used for his JOKE of a Campaign ~ Remember "Trump NETWORK"? Trump's Pyramid Scheme "Vitamin SCAM"? If not, GOOGLE it, you'll be OUTRAGED ~ Defaulting on OUR Debt, Arming Saudi Arabia with NUKEs & Acceptance of a Nuclear Exchange with Europe, Yup, Believe it or NOT he actually implied this, are just 3 of an infinite number of reasons WHY they will NEVER Allow "Delusional Donald" anywhere NEAR OUR Nuclear Arsenal ~

    1. ptosis profile image77
      ptosisposted 22 months agoin reply to this

      Not so sure, about the access to National Security Information which the Speaker of the House is suggesting to withhold from Clinton  - but not Trump (as per custom as a prez runner in the last few months before election  for stable transition).

    2. Yossarian22 profile image61
      Yossarian22posted 22 months agoin reply to this

      That is absurd. Hillary was Secretary of State! Why wouldn't she be allowed access to National Security Information? Paul Ryan is a tool.

    3. bradmasterOCcal profile image30
      bradmasterOCcalposted 22 months agoin reply to this

      Ryan
      I think the DNI—the Director of National Intelligence—should block her access to classified information given how recklessly she handled this during the presidential campaign.”

    4. Alternative Prime profile image76
      Alternative Primeposted 22 months agoin reply to this

      lol @ brad, yeah, and ALLOW a Mentally DISTURBED FRAUDSTER like Trump Scan through OUR Classified Documents?? ~ Hillary has been EXPOSED to "TOP Secret" INFO for YEARS & NOT a Single BREACH or Compromise ~ But U Actually TRUST a Swindler like DON

    5. bradmasterOCcal profile image30
      bradmasterOCcalposted 22 months agoin reply to this

      AP When we captured the enigma machine in WWII, did we tell the Germans we had it? Like pres B Clinton using the WH as a Motel 6 to cheat on Hillary, the capture of HIllary's server info could be used to extort the presidency if Hillary is pres

  4. ptosis profile image77
    ptosisposted 22 months ago

    https://usercontent1.hubstatic.com/13090848_f260.jpg

    "Donald Trump's praise for brutal strongmen seemingly knows no bounds. He has applauded the strength China showed in the Tiananmen Square massacre, offered admiration for Kim Jong Un's murderous consolidation of power in North Korea, and consistently lavished praise on Vladimir Putin," Jake Sullivan said "Trump yet again lauded Saddam Hussein as a great killer of terrorists, noting with approval that he never bothered to read anyone their rights."

    I would find it amusing if it wasn't so scary that Trumpeteers will probably be the first up against the wall when Trump becomes by executive order, a self proclaimed ranting tyrant. Like the Vichy government collaborators with Nazi Germany - whose attempt of self survival  - sacrificed their fellow countrymen were later considered the ultimate cowardly betrayers.

    1)  disregard the rights of others
    2)  no remorse for the harm they cause others.
    3)  lack empathy
    4)  deceitful, aggressive, tough minded, glib, superficial, exploitative, irresponsible, and impulsive
    5) Has superficial charm.

    If those are the things a Trumpeteer admires then by the very definition - Trumpeteers are in  “A Relationship Addiction” as codependents to a psychopath. 

    It's the same question people ask about a battered spouse - why don't they just leave? Trying to break it up for the good of the victim whose is in a totally, one-sided, "fantasy" relationship is difficult and takes support and therapy.

    Codependents and sociopaths go together like a lock and key. The sociopath spends all their time living out of the codependents pocket book and the codependents spend all their time trying to figure the sociopaths out that they dont have to deal with themselves.

    1. bradmasterOCcal profile image30
      bradmasterOCcalposted 22 months agoin reply to this

      Now list the same things about Trump's opponents. If people had good arguments they wouldn't have to use name calling. I know Trump does it,so do other, trumpeteers? 4 your last 2 paragraphs, I would say the same of loyal party voters.

    2. Alternative Prime profile image76
      Alternative Primeposted 22 months agoin reply to this

      One PRIMARY Difference between "Drumpf" Trump & his Opponents is the FACT that Donald is a "DELUSIONAL", Psychologically Un-SOUND Bigoted Facist Racist & his Opponents are NOT ~ No surprise to me if the KKK's David Duke Spoke at the GOP Conv.

    3. bradmasterOCcal profile image30
      bradmasterOCcalposted 22 months agoin reply to this

      AP
      Not a single fact, just noise.

    4. ptosis profile image77
      ptosisposted 22 months agoin reply to this

      Most of the time I disagree with our Brad and sometimes like this : I agree with you.  Too bad we all could be on the front porch in the evening, having a beer and checking out the fireflies while jawing away. )

    5. Alternative Prime profile image76
      Alternative Primeposted 22 months agoin reply to this

      lol @ brad ~ GOOGLE is just a CLICK away, and as usual, I URGE ALL my readers to INVESTIGATE the FACTs ~ Racist KKKer David Duke ENDORSED Drumpf, Robo-Calls were made by RACISTs on Trumps Behalf, Mexicans are Rapists According to Trump ~ Just FACTs

    6. ptosis profile image77
      ptosisposted 22 months agoin reply to this

      I don't trust Google. Use Duck Duck GO  instead

    7. Alternative Prime profile image76
      Alternative Primeposted 22 months agoin reply to this

      lol @ brad ~ Of course U don't like GOOGLE, if I were Delusional Donald or a FAN I'd be "FRIGHTENED" to GOOGLE his FRAUD Filled HISTORY as well ~ The ONLY Chance "Drumpf" has to win is if he Invents a "TIME Machine" & goes back & ERASES his P

    8. bradmasterOCcal profile image30
      bradmasterOCcalposted 22 months agoin reply to this

      ptosis
      I miss the fireflies when I lived on Long Island, we dn have them in CA.

      AP ur comments are filled with name calling and conclusions. Where are the facts? Talk about issues, not your conclusions of Trump personally. 4 ex, Wall or No Wall MX

    9. ptosis profile image77
      ptosisposted 22 months agoin reply to this

      @Brad Wall is stupid: see https://youtu.be/vU8dCYocuyI, What I would like to see is an electronic sensor 'fence' and more aerostats, (giant radar balloons),  Each solution has it's own problems tho' because some BP agents have cartel ties.

    10. bradmasterOCcal profile image30
      bradmasterOCcalposted 22 months agoin reply to this

      The problem with the US and especially democrats is that they can't, won't and haven't created  anything. They are always delaying projects, or denying proj and in the meantime the cost skyrocket and then they say it is too costly.

  5. tirelesstraveler profile image81
    tirelesstravelerposted 22 months ago

    Yes, at what point do supporters say that's over the line?  When laws apply to regular people, but not dictators.  When it's OK to yell fowl at Wall Street when you get a ton of their money in kick backs.  Or when the enemies of the country have blackmail material on you and your supporters still think because you are a women you are the only candidate for the job.

    1. ptosis profile image77
      ptosisposted 22 months agoin reply to this

      Are your sure that Hilary Clinton is not transgender? Or even human?

    2. tirelesstraveler profile image81
      tirelesstravelerposted 22 months agoin reply to this

      Did I miss something?

 
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