Don't you think Pakistan should be called a "terror sponsor of terrorism" by the

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   Lince Tomyposted 7 years ago

   Don't you think Pakistan should be called a "terror sponsor of terrorism" by the United States?
   
   There are various proofs of Pakistan officials giving aid and also giving shelter to many terrorists.So don't you think it should be called be a terrorist state?
   
   

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   Belisariusgwposted 7 years ago

   Stating that offcially on the record wouldn't be advantageous to us..
   
   While some elements imbedded within the Pakistani government aim to harm us, the majority keeps us happy in exchange for money and political backroom deals.
   
   You don't call a country a sponsor of terrorism out in the open if someone in the US government is getting whacked off by them. You call a country out when they have nothing to offer.

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      Belisariusgwposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      And wiki leaks just showed that Hillary basically created ISIS.

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      arksysposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      maybe that is why the "super power" could not stop 40,000 people in all this time.

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   aaslposted 7 years ago

   I think it would absolutely help for the government to identify terrorist states. Correctly labeling a nation like this can dictate how we do business with them later on. But right now current administration struggles to identify Islamic terrorists so it's a stretch. Maybe the next president.
   
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      Belisariusgwposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      If you don't mind me asking... How exactly would it benefit us to label Pakistan?

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      arksysposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      they have to blame someone for all the mess. America clearly failed so lets blame the biggest ally you had in the region because Pakistani's are Muslims... and Muslims are terrorists.
      that sounds fair doesn't it ... case closed.

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   bradmasterOCcalposted 7 years ago

   
   
   If it looks and acts like a Duck, Call it a Duck.
   Pakistan is where Osama Bin Laden hung out in safety for over a decade. It was not just him, but many of the terrorists used Pakistan as a safe port.
   I think that it would be better to hold Pakistan accountable for their aiding terrorists. What is the point of treating Pakistan as an Allie when they don't act like an Allie?

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      bradmasterOCcalposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Thank you Lince.

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      arksysposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      And america acts like an ally when they started bombing Pakistani's with their drones? ... you may not know but people protested in Pakistan for years before america stopped bombing Pakistani's. Now they kill even Pakistani's if we go in the region.

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   arksysposted 7 years ago

   
   
   Attached is the image of the Global Terrorism Index in 2014. (link: http://cdn.thejournal.ie/media/2014/11/terror-map-2.jpg). It shows the countries affected by terrorism in the past from 2002-2014. I'll give you a quick and simple summary then you can decide.
   
   If you can pick out Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan you will note that those countries have taken the biggest hits in the fight against terrorism where thousands of people have lost their lives.
   
   The Pakistan/Afghan borders were open before with minimal border control similar to some European countries you may see. Some of the tribal people did not even acknowledge that there exists a border because half their family lived on the Pakistani side and the other half on the Afghani side.
   
   The afghans were, and are still angry at Pakistan for giving USA the airspace to bomb Afghanistan and in retaliation the families on the pakistani side bombed pakistani cities a number of times.
   
   The war on terror created more terrorists for everyone and it is a big mess. The pakistani army fought against those terrorists and pushed them back, then the terrorists bombed the army children school in Peshawar. There is a constant battle between the tribal people and the Pakistani army where thousands have died in the process. 
   
   Calling Pakistan a terrorist state would not be fair because the majority of pakistani people are not terrorists. Yes, there are terrorists in Pakistan and the military has done a good job in stopping them but their numbers are still growing because the bombings in Afghanistan have not stopped in 15 years.
   
   Having USA as an ally has cost Pakistan a lot and sometimes i think it may have been better to have refused the ocean and air space to bomb Afghanistan. Now American's think that Pakistan is a dodgy ally, and Afghani's think Pakistan is a dodgy neighbor. In the end america will leave and fight some other country with the ties of Afghanistan and Pakistan in broken pieces. As you know Pakistan is not on good terms with India either Pakistan will be left alone with enemies on both sides of the border. I think Pakistan has done enough, don't you?

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      Belisariusgwposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Well said

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   tamarawilhiteposted 7 years ago

   The fact that Bin Laden lived in a compound down the street from their military's equivalent to West Point makes that likely. Their military's alliances with the Taliban make it more likely.
   
   Why haven't we done more? Because Pakistan is a nuclear power that almost had a war with India in the 1990s, and because the Saudis have nukes on order with them to be delivered the moment Iran goes nuclear. End result, we're afraid to offend them in case their military stops pretending to be civilized and goes Jihad with nukes.

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      arksysposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      you have been there for 15 years. Pakistan keeps insisting to follow the ways of the land and discuss things but the drones don't stop. you don't listen, different cultures have different ways to deal with things. bombing is not a solution.

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   AshutoshJoshi06posted 7 years ago

   Call it America's hypocrisy or personal interests in the region. Its military aid and weapons have helped Pakistan strengthen, nurture and dispatch terrorism to other parts of the world especially India and Afghanistan.
   
   Its a safe heaven for terrorist groups - Taliban, haqqani, JeM, JuD, LeT are a few of them. In all likelihood as ISIS looses grip in Syria it would turn to Pakistan.
   
   When Congressmen Ted Poe moved in a resolution to declare Pakistan a state sponsor of terrorism last month, a petition on similar line was started, which was rejected by whitehouse with an absurd reasoning. The petition recieved 633,000 signatures against required 100,000 withing just a fortnight.

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      arksysposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Its easy to get a billion votes from india alone. India has a lot going on within its own boundaries and with RAW in Pakistan. maybe declare them too while we are at it... what do you say? 
      http://www.hudson.org/research/4575-hinduism-and-terror

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      AshutoshJoshi06posted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Your obsession with RAW and Kashmir does not have any limit. May be you conviniently ignored the haqqani and taliban that you raised in your backyards in cahoots with America and let them be so that come and wreck havoc on your own people.

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      arksysposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Let the Kashmiri people decide what they want for their land. I don't want more fighting and deaths of innocent people. Are you willing to let go of Kashmir? It's not an obsession with raw, it is a fact that they operate in Pakistan.

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      AshutoshJoshi06posted 7 years agoin reply to this

      CIA, KGB, MOSSAD, MI5 and your ISI, what do you think their role is? They have under cover agents in many countries. But unlike Pakistan these nations dont blame them for their internal issues. Terrorism is Kashmir is sponsored and world knows it!!

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      arksysposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      You missed my question. Are you ready to let the Kashmiri people decide their fate? Most of the people do not want that, which is why there is unrest in the region.

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      AshutoshJoshi06posted 7 years agoin reply to this

      POK, Gilgit baltistan, Baluchistan are rebelling against military dictatorship and atrocities, will Pakistan set them free? Kashmir is and always will be integral part of India. Just that Indian govt needs a better strategy to deal with the crisis.

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      arksysposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      thanks for answering my question... and that is exactly why Kashmiri people are fighting and joining freedom fighters or terrorists. the majority do not want to be a part of India or Pakistan.

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      AshutoshJoshi06posted 7 years agoin reply to this

      My condolences for the Quetta terrorist attack.Its High time and I dont undertand what's wrong with Pakistani people even the educated ones..deal with your problems instead of living in fallacy,trying to claim what is, was and will never be yours!

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      arksysposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Personally i only want what the kashmiri people want. if that is an independent state then so be it. after all it is their home land, who are we to decide for them. 60 dead in Quetta is another example of what we have to deal with every other day.

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   JackieChanaafposted 7 years ago

   Isn't 'terrorist' subjective to who the US points its finger at even though the US is accountable for some terrorist like attacks and sponsorship for e.g. their lack of outspokenness with the entire Israeli-Gaza crisis? The U.S is currently facing its own domestic terror problem with white on black crime, blue on black crime and the wave of hate facing immigrants and non-white citizens.
   
   Pakistan is by no means innocent and has its fair share in terror-related activities. But many innocent Pakistani citizens have been 'collateral damage' in U.S nato attacks - does this redeem the U.S? Many of these people lose children, parents etc. senselessly to U.S. based violence, which then renders them vulnerable to radicalisation - so who's accountable in this perpetuating cycle of violence?

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      AshutoshJoshi06posted 7 years agoin reply to this

      You are absolutely right in pointing US hypocrisy and its alleged role when it comes to state sponsorship of Terrorism. Pakistan and US have been in bed raising terrorism. Taliban an ideal exmple, was Good Taliban whn it fought the Soviet occupation.

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