A challenge to those protesters in NYC and in Washington DC - what specifc line

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   jackclee lmposted 7 years ago

   A challenge to those protesters in NYC and in Washington DC - what specifc line in the speech do..?
   
   Here is the full question - what specific line in Trump's inaugural address do you find offensive? Assuming you have read or heard the speech.
   What is the goal of the protests...?
   What part of democracy don't you get?
   Have you read and understood our Constitution? It is only a few thousand words.

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   tamarawilhiteposted 7 years ago

   These liberal protestors are undermining democracy when they say we only accept votes when it goes their way.
   And burning property and threatening lives if not protest, it is rioting, and that violence is a deliberate effort to overturn an election.
   When you think you have the right to use violence when peaceful means don't work, that is fascism. That liberals' branding says they are peaceful and tolerance just makes liberal violence more ironic and proof of their lack of self awareness as they burn cars, throw bricks at people and shot a guy at the University of Washington during a Milo Yianapolis speech.

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      jackclee lmposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      I heard the speech and I can't find any fault with it. In 16 minutes, he evicerated the establishment washington elites. If you accomplished 50% of what he promised, he will go down in history as one of america's greatest president.

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   Aime Fposted 7 years ago

   What part of democracy don't YOU get?  Expressing displeasure with the government is a key part of democracy and wanting to silence it is inherently un-democratic.
   
   And why must they pick a line from his 15 minute inaugural speech when there are hours and hours and hours of other things to choose from?

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      jackclee lmposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      You didn't answer my question. What line in the speech do you find offensive? Yes it is oart of democracy to dissent... but not to destroy property and burn vehicles and acting like spoiled brats and cursing...
      Do you object to all that?

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      Aime Fposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      I object to that and so do 99% of us. It was a handful of ppl that you guys insist on dwelling on, while ignoring that 1+ million peacefully protested all day yesterday.
      
      It's like me saying the Westboro Baptist represents all Christians. Silly.

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      jackclee lmposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Aime, let me explain the difference. In the westboro case, it was a fringe goup and attracted little attentiion or following I believe their members are in the low 100s. In the protest in NYC, though peaceful, was lead by some celebrities like Madonn

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      Aime Fposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      My point was that the very small # of people who were destroying things are not representative of the whole as seen in the peaceful protests yesterday. Just like I know the WBC is not representative of Christians as a whole.

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      jackclee lmposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      I wish you would answer what in his speech you are protesting. In any election, words are said, promises are made and hyperbole is used to make some points...Election is over, inauguration speech is his vision for the future, what part is offensive?

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      Aime Fposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      I addressed your question wondering why you seem so stuck on his 15 minute inaugural speech like it's the only thing he's ever said that counts? I can give you examples from other things he's said if you like.

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      jackclee lmposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      This thread is about the speech and the protests. I am not here to debate what he said during the election. If you didn't agree with him then, you had the perfect right to not vote for him. Now, he has won, and he is trying to fix our country.

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      Aime Fposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      You do realize that the protests were not specifically about his speech, yes?

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      jackclee lmposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Yes, of course. You do realize that people say outrageous things during elections to win votes and attract attention? I personally didn't agree with his strategy, but it worked for him. What do we do now should be the focus? I am holding him to his w

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   peoplepower73posted 7 years ago

   Jack:  There are many lines I found offensive, but if I have to choose one, it is "American Carnage."  What have Americans killed in our own country?  Our country is strong.  We have the strongest and most advanced military in the free world.  We have an unemployment rate at 4.7% (which I don't think you will believe.)  Our stock market is at an all time high.  We have not had a major terrorist attack since 911, and on and on.
   
   I think that line was intended for the "forgotten ones", his supporters in the rust belt areas. Yes they are out of work and somehow they think he is going to put them back to work.  They have a blind faith, that is unswerving.  In their eyes there is nothing he can do or say that is wrong. 
   
   On the other hand, the people who marched know he is wrong. They marched to protest, because of democracy.  The first amendment gives them the right to protest.  That is what democracy is about and brings about change not blind allegiance to some one who wants to control them.  Here is what they protested: ( I think in addition to what I listed below, they simply don't like Trump as their president, but are afraid to say it publicly.)
   
   Accountability and justice for police brutality” and “[dismantling] the gender and racial inequities within the criminal justice system”
   
   Freedom from sexual violence
   
   Ratifying the Equal Rights Amendment to the Constitution that would guarantee equal protection based on gender
   
   Affirming that all domestic and caretaking work is work, even if unpaid, and that women — especially women of color — bear the brunt of that burden
   
   “The right to organize and fight for a living minimum wage” for all workers, labor protections for undocumented and migrant workers.
   
   Comprehensive reproductive rights, LGBTQ rights, and immigrant and refugee rights

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      jackclee lmposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Mike, that line I believe he was referring to the high number of shooting in Chicago, Obama's home town. It increased 60% in just the last year.

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   jackclee lmposted 7 years ago

   Due to the limitation of responses to 250 char. I decided to move this discussion to a forum format. Please visit here - http://hubpages.com/politics/forum/1396 … auguration
   
   Thanks.

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