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California has okayed a statewide sanctuary bill. Isn't this encouraging & rewa

  1. Timothy Anderson profile image97
    Timothy Andersonposted 11 months ago

    California has okayed a statewide sanctuary bill.  Isn't this encouraging & rewarding law-breakers?

    California's State Senate has just signed bills that basically declare the entire state to be a "sanctuary state."  It seems to me this will only reward and encourage illegals to disobey our nation's border laws.

    Do you support California becoming our nation's first "sanctuary state?"

  2. Wesman Todd Shaw profile image97
    Wesman Todd Shawposted 11 months ago

    If I understand correctly, the big issue in California is having enough migrant workers to harvest all the crops. The big agricultural folks live in fear there won't be enough persons available to get the job done. It would really suck for all those grapes, etc, to be left on the vine. The price of wine would go up quite a lot.

    1. bradmasterOCcal profile image27
      bradmasterOCcalposted 11 months agoin reply to this

      Is that a justification of keeping illegals that are known felons, and have committed these felonies and been in our prisons from being deported?

      Do you think these felons are going to work the field, or work the multibillion dollar illegal drugs

  3. ptosis profile image71
    ptosisposted 11 months ago


    From what I have heard, local law enforcement want people to report crimes - even if the victim is undocumented.

    There are conflicting rights and regulations here.Your point of view appears to be border laws trump human people's safety. You sound like you don't care about humans at all. Some Draconian robot programmed to run code even if in a endless loop that gives you error.

    How about considering the opinion of a police captain of first responders. Very easy to be harsh and unfeeling when behind a keyboard instead of the front lines who see danger everyday.

    "Enforcing federal immigration law “is just not what we do, which is why our policy will not change, even with the new Trump executive action,” says Captain Scroggin, “We’re the melting pot of the world out here in California, there are a lot of immigrant communities that we serve, so we need to make sure that they feel comfortable” calling the cops for help, he says. “The most important thing we strive to do is to build enough trust so that residents provide information that makes this community safer. It’s a team effort." http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/2017/0126/Wh...

    "Immigration laws are very complex and the training required to understand them significantly detracts from the core mission of local police to create safe communities,'' the association stated."Local police need to have the community's confidence and know they can be free to report problems without consequences,'' he said. "If people are afraid to come to the police, that domestic violence incident today will be a homicide tomorrow and that's in no one's interest.'' - https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2017/...

    Bottom Line: Police chiefs across the country support sanctuary cities because they keep crime down

    1. bradmasterOCcal profile image27
      bradmasterOCcalposted 11 months agoin reply to this

      bogus answer from you. How do you keep crime down when you protect known felons? We have a serious gang problem in the US, and many of these illegals are gang members. MS13 from Guatemala along with many other gangs whose member are illegals.

  4. profile image82
    Hxprofposted 11 months ago

    Sadly, the establishment of Sanctuary cities/states does reward illegal aliens.  There's no reason why those here illegally SHOULDN'T fear deportation.  I understand that local police don't want to expend manpower and resources to catch and deport illegals, but establishing formal sanctuaries for them is lawless; illegals shouldn't be rewarded for being here.

    1. bradmasterOCcal profile image27
      bradmasterOCcalposted 11 months agoin reply to this

      I believe the issue here is that these cities don't want illegal aliens that were Convicted and Served their time in prison to be deported. So they don't want to notify the feds that these convicted criminals are back on US streets.

    2. profile image82
      Hxprofposted 11 months agoin reply to this

      That may be the REAL reason for their recalcitrance.

  5. junkseller profile image85
    junksellerposted 11 months ago

    No. The law is never black and white, for one, but also, there are always a multitude of concerns, sometime competing. In this case there are competing humanitarian, economic, and logistical concerns.

    Ignoring them is to be a simpleton.

    1. bradmasterOCcal profile image27
      bradmasterOCcalposted 11 months agoin reply to this

      What is the benefit of having convicted felon illegal aliens back on the US streets. How does that have any justification.