Einstein the Racist?

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   Live to Learnposted 5 years ago

   So, we all know the revered Einstein was less than honorable about women. Now, evidence points to racism.
   
   .https://www.theguardian.com/books/2018/jun/12/einsteins-travel-diaries-reveal-shocking-xenophobia
   
   In our politically correct world we are obligated to trash his achievements. Can scientists, in good conscience, continue to expand on his theories? Anything he did must be flawed, right?

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      mrpopoposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      Sounds like he was a flawed human, like most of us.
      
      However, there is slightly more nuance than the article presents. I read the first chapter (the only free one): http://assets.press.princeton.edu/chapters/s11234.pdf
      
      There's a part where he talks about Indians in Colombo:
      
      28th. Yesterday evening we approached 〈Honk〉 Colombo with
      considerable delay. Before the coast came into view we got caught
      in a severe tropical storm with a cloudburst, forcing the ship to stop.
      When it brightened up around 9 o’clock, it turned out that we were
      near the harbor. A pilot drew near in a rowboat, and we soon docked
      next to another Japanese steamship. We saw here for the first time an
      elderly Indian, fine, distinguished face with gray beard, who brought
      us two telegrams and—begged for a tip. We saw other Indians as well,
      brown to black sinewy figures with expressive faces and bodies and
      humble demeanor. They look like nobles transformed into beggars.
      Much unspeakable pride and downtroddenness are united there.
      This morning at 7 a.m. we went on land and, together with the
      Du Plâtres, viewed the Hindu quarter of Colombo and a Buddhist
      temple. We drove in individual little carts that were drawn on the
      double by Herculean
      and yet so refined people. I was very much ashamed of myself for
      being complicit in such despicable treatment of human beings but
      couldn’t change anything. Because these beggars in the form of kings
      descend in droves on any foreigner until he has surrendered to them.
      They know how to implore and to beg until one’s heart is shaken up.
      On the streets of the indigenous quarter one can see how these fine
      people spend their primitive lives. For all their fineness, they give
      the impression that the climate prevents them from thinking backward
      or forward by more than a quarter of an hour. They live in great
      filth and considerable stench down on the ground, do little, and need
      little. Simple economic cycle of life. Far too penned up to allow any
      distinct existence for the individual. Half-naked, they reveal their
      fine and yet powerful bodies and their fine, patient faces.
      
      This reads more like an observation of the oppressive state of the Indian people and his shame in being complicit. The article mischaracterizes that segment.
      
      I don't think the article mischaracterizes his comments about the Chinese, but they don't come up in this chapter.
      
      It should go without saying that none of this invalidates any of his accomplishments and discoveries.

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         Live to Learnposted 5 years agoin reply to this

         I agree that nothing should invalid his contributions. Just as being a flawed human should not invalid anyone else's. Unfortunately, that is not the case, in some eyes.
         
         Just showcasing hypocrisy.

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      ahorsebackposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      I think it's simply a part of modern culture completely  shallow in it's insights into the past .  Being totally oblivious to the not only the biases , prejudices , and social customs of the past  but the better parts of humanity as well .    Of course cultures ,customs ,marriages and  personal lives  were different decades ago some for the better and some for the worse .

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   Castlepalomaposted 5 years ago

   he famously stated that racism was a “disease of white people.”
   That sounds at least in the ball park for the last 500 years.

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      Live to Learnposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      So, being a white guy, are you diseased?

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         Castlepalomaposted 5 years agoin reply to this

         By my many worldwide journeys, studies of world history, dating mostly non whites and a world citizen.  I' m cured of the White man Disease. Only pet pev is non uwhites think I'm very rich.
         
         Where as predominate white empire like British, America Isreal and Russia. Still suffer and struggle with the greed of the whitemans disease. As every empire falls, the greed diesease gets controled and maybe some day there will be a cure.

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            Live to Learnposted 5 years agoin reply to this

            

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            wildernessposted 5 years agoin reply to this

            "Only pet pev is non uwhites think I'm very rich."
            
            You are.  You can support yourself, and with a reasonable standard of living.  "Reasonable" by the standards of Europe and North America: "Unbelievable luxurious" by the standards of most non-white areas of the world.  ("Most" means more than half - not 100%  Or 90% or even 60%).  You aren't starving to death and neither are your children.  You purchase clothing and live in a mansion.  You even have transportation and electricity.

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               Castlepalomaposted 5 years agoin reply to this

               Just visiting a third world country, they think you are rich because you can afford to come there. Everywhere I go they charge me a lot more than the local. A few time I have  lived in third world country, I get a loco friend to do my shopping, and best security is neighborhood watch

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                  wildernessposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                  Exactly what I meant.  And you ARE rich - none of them could afford such an extravaganza as your trip.
                  
                  But isn't charging the "rich" more than the poor the accepted standard?  I'm somewhat surprised to hear you, of all people, complaining about the practice and doing what you can to get around it.

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                     Castlepalomaposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                     Can't avoid extra charge when I"m passing through.
                     
                     The difference is when I am earning local money, it fair to pay local prices. Wnen prices can be 10 times more if you are white.  That is Discrimination  to whites when you are on the same playing field.

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                        Live to Learnposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                        Careful castle. Sounding like you're having a relapse.

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                           Castlepalomaposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                           Lol!
                           I don't revenge, just ethicallly change up the game, and they respect me for it.

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                              Live to Learnposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                              Sounds like white privilege trash talk.

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                                 Castlepalomaposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                                 They get me.
                                 
                                 I don't speak in forked tongue. Only in harmless joking.

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                                    Live to Learnposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                                    Sounds pretty white to me. You sure you're disease free?

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                                       Castlepalomaposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                                       Yep, some may think I am reverse racist.
                                       Sorry, love e everybody.

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                                          mrpopoposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                                          What is a reverse racist?

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   Castlepalomaposted 5 years ago

   Mrpopo
   
   I"m not racist of any kind, yet when I pick out some flaws of the whites history.  There is some white people who think I'm a white racist or reverse racist. A person who is not teamed up or onesided with their white race like the KKK accept is white in opposite. That is nonsense to me. First of all, I am white ,I"m  no better or worst than any other person or race.  Half of my family is white, who I love them all.

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      mrpopoposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      I understand where you are coming from. It's the term "reverse racism" that bugs me.
      
      It's like saying being sexist towards men is reverse sexism, or being ageist towards young people is reverse ageism. It sounds nonsensical.

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         wildernessposted 5 years agoin reply to this

         Perhaps it's hatred of self?  No other people involved?

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            mrpopoposted 5 years agoin reply to this

            Hatred of own group would make sense. I've never seen it used as such though. And "internalized racism" covers that concept.

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   Castlepalomaposted 5 years ago

   Got to love myself first, or how could I give love to others well.
   
   Some think I hate Americans.
   I love Americans, it"s the Greedy white bastards I Don't Like. Like Jesus, it's money lenders bankers, he doesn't like.

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      ahorsebackposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      "It's the greedy white bast---ds"
      
      Care to expound ?

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      Live to Learnposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      I don't remember any comments from Jesus on money lender bankers.

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         mrpopoposted 5 years agoin reply to this

         He may be talking about this:
         
         "It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God."

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            Castlepalomaposted 5 years agoin reply to this

            Trump is building a huge super hiway to heaven for the wealthy. The Pope canceled hell, so where,  esle can they go.
            
            Promises, promises.

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         Castlepalomaposted 5 years agoin reply to this

         money changer is a person or organisation whose business is the exchange of coins or currency of one country, for that of another.[1] This trade is generally thought to be the origin of modern banking in Europe.[2]

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            Live to Learnposted 5 years agoin reply to this

            Ok. Money changers. He did talk about them. They weren't banks,thus the question.

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   Castlepalomaposted 5 years ago

   Non whites are not known for greed. When non-whites are 86℅ of the world's population and more of them being born in the US than whites. Makes whites feel like General Custer last stand.
   
   Greedy Bastards: white race whitehouse, Banksters, and Other Vampires from Sucking America Dry . Corporatecracy creates scarcity, toxic product for bottomline profits. I have.
   uncover their secrets society and their destruction aim of social values or provention for solutions. My healthy aims have  been disallowed by Government corruption and corporate cons.
   They keep harming the health care system, an age-old dependency on foreign oil, and a broken educational system. America has the opportunity to prosper, yet too comfortable with being bought off with tec, cosummers obesity and abuse.
   
   Passionate discussion and and ethical policy, work better than fighting all the time. The entrepreneurial spirit is slowly coming back, to rebuild a new and better America, it deserves. After the greatest abusive fight of all times first.
   
   Wall Street  is a rigged system and the secret is out. The  Zionist control alot of the world, not all. They are strong in Academic, finance and the media. They own the media. Politicians do our bidding. Wall Street is a Jewish shtetl. Hollywood moguls make secret deals in Yiddish. Jewish professors propagandize their students to support Israel. Jewish puppet masters pull the strings , they simply follow and indoctrinated schools to high office.
   
   Personally I'm not going down that dark rabbit hole. Because too many have lost jobs, been harmed and murdered for the word Zionist.
   
   The ethical side of real Jews are not Nationaism like Isreal and Trump.
   Israel is condemned at the UN more than all the other nations of the world combined. How they badly treat the Palestinians is insane.

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      mrpopoposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      Oh dear. Sounds like that "white" disease is acting up again.

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   Castlepalomaposted 5 years ago

   Whites or Non whites got nothing on me. The white Greedy Bastards are really green cold blooded monsters. Majority of whites should be chasing them down,  not following them to hell.

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