Trump's US and EU Work Towards O% Tariffs ?

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   ahorsebackposted 6 years ago

   kind of a "step ahead " of obstructionists ,No ?   
   
   Again !

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      hard sunposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      This is just a truce to a matter started by Trump. Once again, nothing done..kinda like NK...it's an agreement to discuss maybe making an agreement. Can we wait to see how it truly works out until we give Trump some medal again?
      
      Maybe after the election, Trump will make a fantastic deal with EU. It will be great. Maybe he's kicking the can down the road till after the election? You don't know, I don't know. he probably doesn't even know.

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         ahorsebackposted 6 years agoin reply to this

         Well , wouldn't it be great iiiiif someone else had made these changes that have immediately affected  the US economy  as it undeniably has , say in the last thirty years or so ?   I often wonder how liberals have been just A okay with the offsided tariffs , trade deals , Nafta like disasters over the last decades and now that someone's actually changing the abuses by foreign governments , Now it becomes a priority to the left that they actually work in our favor ?
         
         There you are , late to the party again .

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            hard sunposted 6 years agoin reply to this

            Um..huh..well...like I said, we will see if anything comes of this or if we end up in a worse situation. Nothing has happened.
            
            You insist I'm liberal cause I don't like Trump and that I think just as some certain group does on every subject. Maybe it's a reflection

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               ahorsebackposted 6 years agoin reply to this

               "Wait and see ?"     That is the point I just made .  That's just the strategy of the left .......Your senate , your presidents , even your majorities .    Of course entitlement spending is always your priority . Health care, education , internal US artsy craftsy grants and governing ?

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                  hard sunposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                  I'm not even sure why I bother. My senate, my presidents, entitlement spending, what does any of this have to do with the subject you brought up...later.

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      crankaliciousposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      I think this is an interesting development. If Trump has been using American might to create leverage for himself to renegotiate our trade deals even though the short-term effects might be negative, I'd have to give him significant credit for that.
      
      After all, America can stand to pay tariffs longer than Europe can. And certainly, it hurts China way more than it hurts us to tax Chinese goods coming into the US as opposed to China taxing American goods going into China. China has more to lose in that trade war than we do.

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   Live to Learnposted 6 years ago

   I find it interesting that those who shout 'the sky is falling' at the outset now, as things move toward a possible desired outcome turn about to a 'let's wait and see' stance.

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      ahorsebackposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Got to look through the trees to the forest beyond . They are never very good at that are they ?

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         Live to Learnposted 6 years agoin reply to this

         Well, when the desired outcome is more reasons to be negative it all makes sense.

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            ahorsebackposted 6 years agoin reply to this

            You know , At least liberals are finally admitting their overall socialist agendas that they've denied for the last forty years or more . Since at least  the early eighties  the Cuomo's , Feinstein , Carter , all of the liberal politicians  claimed "No democrats don't want socialism " ...........?
            
            It's far easier at this point to call out their overall hypocrisies .

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               hard sunposted 6 years agoin reply to this

               At least Trumpians are admitting they can't hold a conversation about any topic at hand. It's useless..you're too far gone into the nether regions of the rantings of an orange man.

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                  ahorsebackposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                  Talking Trumps predicted individual tariff negotiations and EU success' instead of your "major trade tariff world war" ?
                  Bring it on !

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                     hard sunposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                     I gave you a chance to discuss the issue. You waste my time with your drivel.

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                        ahorsebackposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                        Uhh , Now I'm hurt ........  But explain please the difference then and now that the EU admits we could work to O tariffs .
                        
                        As Trump smiles .
                        
                        Admit it , Trump Derangement is clouding your sky.

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                           hard sunposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                           Admit you have no idea what to say but, liberals, uh uh, and Trump go Trump,,,is this fun? Trump is your sky.

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                              ahorsebackposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                              Hard sun Come on seriously.  You can't do better than that ?   
                              
                              Am I talking to Jake here ?

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                                 hard sunposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                                 Feeding your exact tactic back to you. Don't like it so much.

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   ahorsebackposted 6 years ago

   So much for deep debating with you.  Do you know what a tariff actually is ? What's that old saying ?
   

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      hard sunposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      You tell me all the good things about Obama, since I'm a liberal, and I'll tell you some good things about Trump, as far as policy. I can play the same games. I never once see you actually address the subject at hand.
      
      I don't run with dogs by the way...you do?

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   ahorsebackposted 6 years ago

   So okay , I'll take that as , you can't answer the question .

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   ahorsebackposted 6 years ago

   Imagine if fairly equally valued economies could eliminate tariffs ?
   The US and Canada for one.   America , because of our healthy ,robust and incredibly large capitalist economy can't likely lose.

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   ahorsebackposted 6 years ago

   ##Headline;  EU Caves to US Pressured Trade Deals ##
   
   Yesterday the leader of the EU made agreements in favorable conditions towards Trump trade negotiations . Touting major concessions by the EU.
   " A big deal for free and fairer Trade "
   
   Liberals ; Not one shot fired !

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      hard sunposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      What's all this premature etrumpulation? Hold up ahorse, you're letting the cart get ahead of you.
      
      ---"Bremmer said we need to see if policies actually get implemented."It reminds me of what happened after the Singapore meeting between Kim Jong Un and Trump. It sounded great. There was a deal. There wasn't anything concrete in the deal. We no longer talked about fighting each other, but in reality, U.S. policy and North Korean policy hasn't actually changed that much. That's exactly what we're seeing right here," Bremmer said.
      
      And Ahorse, did I see you disparage someone on another forum for name calling?

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         ahorsebackposted 6 years agoin reply to this

         Name calling ,you mean  like........ "liberals" ? Today the new numbers come out for the GDP ?    Are you ready ..........or will you go along with your buddy Jake?
         
         They're fixed ?

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            hard sunposted 6 years agoin reply to this

            I refer to some of your past posts....And why is name calling OK for our President but not the people? When all else fails just change the subject..smh.

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               ahorsebackposted 6 years agoin reply to this

               I do despise all that the new democratic party has allowed itself to morph into , if that's what your talking about "name calling " .  So yea , I call 'that' out like it is.
               
               Are you going all sanctimonious on us about so called "name calling " because as a supporter of liberal ideologies you're takin a huge high dive leap into  a really shallow pool of  hypocrisy. But I suspect you know that .
               
               I don't call out individuals by name , I do however call out a particular  ideology that  shows nothing if not how to demean their opposition expertly . That the liberal party , as I've said before , has approximately six names they use constantly to define conservatism
               -Racists
               -Bigots
               -Ignorant
               -Misogynists
               -Nazi
               -KKK
               
               You will hardly ever get into a political debate without one of the above being thrown into the equation by the left , new left , old left , intellectual left or not . Name calling , categorizing , negativity and discord , Because certainly Alinskyism has its core definition deep into the DNA of this new left.
               
               Sad part is ,  THAT is where the left will always default to when pointed towards  the solutions of our societal problems  by anyone outside of their minisculely prescribed mindset  and yes I do know why .
               
               Because for all of the left's deep devotional connections to the term so oft used today , "Social Justice "    this new left is no more about improving on the internal betterment of America than a pharmacist is about actually curing a disease .
               
               The left wants America torn from within or from without , no matter which to them and  Why ?      Because the intervention of anarchy is the the ultimate precursor to the inevitable dreamworld  of this  left -More government !
               
               The left simply wants that which is the ultimate enemy of liberty itself , to the left the ultimate archenemy of freedom from tyranny -becomes  tyranny itself.   And , because to the weakness of the left , even tyranny is better than self supporting freedom , liberty and the capitalism ,all of these the very foundation of the American way of life .

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                  hard sunposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                  But...it's ok for the President to name call, deliberately mislead, call the press the enemy of the people, try to stifle free press, etc,
                  
                  You have no standing when you state that the morals of the President don't matter. This is the political environment you are inviting. But then you seem upset when the same tactics are thrown back at you.
                  
                  Did you even look at the link showing all the nasty names Trump has called Americans?
                  
                  Who is "the left" not me.
                  
                  "The left wants America torn from within or from without , no matter which to them and  Why ? 
                  
                  Wasn't it many Trump voters that stated they were blowing up the system by voting for him? It seems that if anyone wants anarchy it is them.
                  
                  At any rate, I think you need to take a step back from Hannity and Limbaugh and all that. Just like some get too engrossed in MSNBC ya know? Smell the roses and focus more on you.
                  
                  I'm not really into these little spats so much anymore. It was funny.

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                     Castlepalomaposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                     Lol
                     I kinda like this hard sun guy.

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                        hard sunposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                        He's OK sometimes but he gets on my nerves now and then...ha.

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                           Castlepalomaposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                           Lol

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   ahorsebackposted 6 years ago

   Well Mr. "I Have No Party "That rant was cute .
   
   Trump and his following can be defined as exactly the political result of two things ;
   
   One , Mainstreet  US's voters response to the most corrupt socialist president [Obama ]that democrats have ever elected in America and  with that ,the most corrupted party election cycle ever to be defined in our  voting republic since the first US election cycle .
   
   And Two , While democrats for decades called what needed  happening in Washington DC as a draining a swamp ,  Trump voters perhaps most likely  from the right said " This Is our Chance"
   and actually did something about that ,   You're welcome !
   
   "Morals of the president don't matter "?,    Trump is an duly elected  lightning rod for the mega storm  of Political Correctness lighting up the democratic skies for the last two decades .    That cycle of BS has defined every legislative act in congress and out of the white house for over two terms ........Done !
   
   "All the nasty names Trump has called ........"   What has the  American left become ? Some kind of a glorified  safety zone society that can't handle a few names now and again ?
   I don't know , Ask the "Deplorables "
   
   "Step back from Hannity and Limbaugh", Trump supporters don't listen to these two all that much and I don't at all , What does that leave you with ?........Ohhhh scary huh ?

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      hard sunposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      When you say cute, you really mean witty. I still don't know why you feel the need to rant your psycho dribble. Have fun with all that.

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   Castlepalomaposted 6 years ago

   The Orange beast Trump finally had to confronted by the world and Trudeau is no push over.
   
   I already warned, that if tariffs stood the way they were. US would have been driven into depression faster than anything. The puppeteers would not want that yet. They still have to sell off Government buildings and property to foreign investors, steal more pensions before they collapse everything.

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