The ABORTION Debate in America

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   gmwilliamsposted 6 years ago

   
   What is your belief regarding the issue of abortion?  The swearing in of Brett Kavanaugh as Supreme Court justice has sparked, even exacerbated the contentious issue regarding abortion.  These who are pro-choice maintain that Brett Kavanaugh will somewhat eradicate abortion rights while those who are pro-life applaud that Kavanaugh in the Supreme Court.     Where are YOU regarding the issue of abortion?

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      lovetherainposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      I believe that abortion is murder of a human being. How do we know when the baby can feel pain or fear? We don't.
      
      Probably in the very early stages they can't. But I would suspect that as soon as the nervous system starts forming, there can be pain and fear.
      
      I am not opposed to birth control, or very early abortions.
      
      However I am on the fence. I don't think a woman should be forced to carry a child if she doesn't want to. But she should be well aware and informed of any pain she may be causing her unborn fetus by having an abortion.

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         JAKE Earthshineposted 6 years agoin reply to this

         When I was delivered, I was told the doctor slapped the bejesus out of my rear and guess what? I don't remember feeling a thing:

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            lovetherainposted 6 years agoin reply to this

            You think this issue is funny?

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               JAKE Earthshineposted 6 years agoin reply to this

               Nope, it's not a funny issue unless you believe a soon to be impeached and or indicted mentally disturbed retarded politician like Bozo Trump or weirdo Ted Cruz has the right to inject themselves into a private decision made by the parents, their doctor and clergy:
               
               It is however funny to think that you or anyone else actually remember or felt any physical sensations when you were born because I sure don't and I'm a relatively normal person:

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         RTalloniposted 6 years agoin reply to this

         There is a lot of information on the early development of babies in the womb for anyone willing to learn about it. A good beginning is: https://www.ted.com/talks/annie_murphy_ … we_re_born

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      promisemposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      My belief is that the debate is overwhelmed by the extremists on the left and the right who shout louder than anyone else. Like usual.
      
      Shockingly, there is a middle ground for normal people. It is legal in the first trimester, limited in the second and illegal in the third.

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         Live to Learnposted 6 years agoin reply to this

         Sounds reasonable,

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            gmwilliamsposted 6 years agoin reply to this

            I believe in early abortion: I feel that late abortion is......MURDER.

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         PrettyPantherposted 6 years agoin reply to this

         I think many, if not most, people agree with this.

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            Aime Fposted 6 years agoin reply to this

            I agree for the most part but for me there’s still a grey area in the third trimester. Should women have the choice to abort if their child is diagnosed with some terminal illness that means a painful death shortly after he/she is born? I say yes. But it is still a choice rather than a necessity.
            
            I don’t think most reasonable humans would suggest that a woman should be able to just decide she no longer wants to have a baby at full-term and terminate, but there are reasons outside of that to terminate in the third trimester which I think are perhaps fair.

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               PrettyPantherposted 6 years agoin reply to this

               I agree. I almost posted the same viewpoint but decided to keep it simple. I do believe in  certain circumstances a woman should be able to choose to terminate a  pregnancy in the third trimester.

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         wildernessposted 6 years agoin reply to this

         As long as it is considered the murder of helpless children there can be no middle ground.  Ditto for control of women's bodies, for any control at all is intolerable.
         
         And frankly, there are far too many people in one camp or the other to describe them all as "abnormal" somehow.

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   MrBill757posted 6 years ago

   A woman is free to reproduce all she wants.  Nobody is stopping women from pro creating.  It’s the killing of that which has been created that’s the issue!!

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      PrettyPantherposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      And, uterine transplants for men are a real possibility for the not-too-distant future. If the woman doesn't want the pregnancy, then the father could be forced to carry it, or at least we could flip a coin.

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         gmwilliamsposted 6 years agoin reply to this

         +1000000000000000000, if that comes to pass & men are forced to carry the pregnancy, then the attitude towards abortion will be CHANGED.  Remember the late feminist Florence Kennedy who said that if men had abortions, it would be a ………..SACRAMENT...…..

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            PrettyPantherposted 6 years agoin reply to this

            I have very little doubt that if pro-life men were forced to carry an unwanted pregnancy, they would suddenly understand the pro-choice stance.
            
            Oh, wait, we already have evidence that pro-life politicians like to tell women what to do, including telling them to get an abortion.
            
            Republican Men Are Against Abortion — Until They Want Their Mistress To Get One

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         wildernessposted 6 years agoin reply to this

         Well, that would be one answer to the question of the father's rights to his child in abortion cases.  I highly doubt, however, that we will be implanting a functional uterus (fake or from a cadaver) in men, scraping a viable fetus off the uterine wall of a woman and transplanting it, still viable, into that male organ any time in the next couple of hundred years.  "Test tube babies" are far more likely.

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            PrettyPantherposted 6 years agoin reply to this

            Yes, of course. But, any sacrifice is worth it to save that fertilized egg, and I'm sure pro-life men would be willing to take full responsibility. They would be saving the life of an innocent baby, after all.

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               wildernessposted 6 years agoin reply to this

               I'm sure the fathers would be willing to use that magic wand and carry a baby.
               
               The run-of-the-mill pro-lifer, I doubt.  The rationale would be that they didn't create that life, they didn't make the mess - let the person that did pay the cost.  And they would have some justification, always presuming that a handful of cells is a baby human being.  Perhaps if the biological parents paid them (money) to change their bodies and be a surrogate mother?

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   MrBill757posted 6 years ago

   I love arguments based on the hypothetical straw man.  It illustrates the emptiness of their position!

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   Kathryn L Hillposted 6 years ago

   Its about the woman's freedom of choice. If she feels she must terminate her pregnancy, then she should be allowed to follow her will.
   
   Since women choose to have sex when they should NOT (for a multitude of reasons,) abortions must be allowed.
   
   Sad but true.
   
   (Probably, most of us should have been aborted.)

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