If this is the new standard for public service?

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   jackclee lmposted 4 years ago

   The latest call for a new FBI investigation on Judge Kavanauh for something that happened 35 years ago in high school is just insane. If this is the new standard, I want all Senators and Congressmen undergoes the same scrutiny. Would any one these 535 people pass this test?
   The arguement that a Supreme Court justice is only one of nine and must have a higher level of integrity because his opinions and rulings affect 320 million of us...
   The same argument can be made for all members of Congress. These 535 people can make laws that afffect the same 320 million people.
   
   How about the other eight current members of the Supreme Court?  Can they pass that same level of scrutiny?
   
   If this is the new standard, I predict no one will pass this level with the exception of Jesus.

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      Ed Fisherposted 4 years agoin reply to this

      This IS the new standard Jack BUT only for conservatives ,    Question , If this IS the new standard how is it that we missed this standard for Bill Clinton ,  where are the Grinning  Feinstein Dance Troops for the Juanita Broaddrick's of the democratic party ?    Do you suppose that she has voted democratic since being raped ?

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         jackclee lmposted 4 years agoin reply to this

         You are right of course. But people, especially mothers and women, should realize what this new norm means. That their husbands and sons and closed male relatives can all be subject to this from this day forward...

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            Ed Fisherposted 4 years agoin reply to this

            Yet equally so  , Is a new found characteristic for the #Metoo  movement  , I was talking with my wife about the hypocrisy of women's movements across the board , it has little to do with the rights and the actual wrongs but more to do with scorched earth politics -The democratic party as it HAS BEEN known is dying but before it goes down for its last count , the members of the party , women , minorities ,  the DC swamp , the new socialist pundits , the dying news media and individual politicians  will scramble as the water rises to survive the drowning . Stepping on each others shoulders before the mid terms .   Each and every one gasping for a last breath of air before the ship slips quietly beneath the november squalls .   "The Edmund Fitzgerald " comes to mind .

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               jackclee lmposted 4 years agoin reply to this

               I hope you are right but as you know, when people are desparate, they will do almost anything including self destruct.

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      jackclee lmposted 4 years agoin reply to this

      Let me add one more thing. Even if we assume the worst and Judge Kavanugh did what Dr. Ford accused him of doing, and I am not saying he did, what does it matter?
      There is a reason juvinile cases are sealed. It is to prevent something like this of affecting a person’s future career by indiscretions committed as a youth.
      This is just common sense.
      I thought we all believe in giving people second chances?

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         jackclee lmposted 4 years agoin reply to this

         It also boggles my mind that we have some people serving in Congress today that doesn’t have a clear understanding of our laws and our Constitution.
         
         They all swear to an oath when they got elected.
         Are they lying and can they be charged with perjury? Or treason...

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            jackclee lmposted 4 years agoin reply to this

            This is referring to Senator Flake. You job on this committee is “advice and consent” on a nomination... a new FBI report will not change a thing or could in this case. You had all the information in front of you. Now step up and vote yes or no. In all you interactions with your democratic colleagues, do you think any one of them would change their vote? As a result of a new FBI report? You are so naive.

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         GA Andersonposted 4 years agoin reply to this

         jackclee, I am almost with you on that "... what does it matter?" thought.
         
         Except, it must also include the following thought; If, (as you say), he did do it, does his current present day adult action of denying it have a bearing on his qualifications for the Bench?
         
         *Don't jump the gun with a false assumption. I support Kavanaugh - to this date, and want to see him exonerated. But ... I think that second question is a game changer if he is not exonerated. Even though it would only prove he is an imperfect human - like the rest of us.
         
         GA

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            PrettyPantherposted 4 years agoin reply to this

            I sincerely hope you are not as imperfect as that. It takes a deep cruel streak to behave that way.

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               GA Andersonposted 4 years agoin reply to this

               Thanks for that thought PrettyPanther. It helps me remember how easy it is for something to be too easily diminished. And ... how dangerous assumptions can be.
               
               GA

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            jackclee lmposted 4 years agoin reply to this

            I hear you. However, Kavanaugh was put in a no win situation. If he did it and admit to it as some say, he should apology and all would be forgiven, I say that would never happen. He would be forced to withdraw.
            If he didn’t do it, and defend himself as it is now, there would be endless call for investigations...into what exactly?  So either way, the point is not about getting at the truth but getting the delays until the nomination is cancelled. No two way about it. That was all this is. Those democrat senators made up their minds already on July 10.

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               promisemposted 4 years agoin reply to this

               Simply apologize for gang rape (if he did it) and "all will be forgiven"? Seriously?

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         promisemposted 4 years agoin reply to this

         Your comment reveals a grossly naive and insensitive view of gang rape. It is ILLEGAL and has no statute of limitations for good reason.
         
         You need to do some volunteer work at sexual assault shelters and get your eyes opened.

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            jackclee lmposted 4 years agoin reply to this

            We are not talking about gsng rape. You are and shame on you for bring this up in this forum.
            
            Here is what retired Justice Kennedy said -
            https://www.yahoo.com/news/kennedy-warn … 29851.html
            
            I agree with him 100%.
            We have people in our government who lack the basic understanding of our laws and justice.

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               promisemposted 4 years agoin reply to this

               Horsepoop. You are the one saying he should be forgiven if he actually committed the gang rape and sexual assault that he is accused of doing.
               
               The shame is all on you and what's left of the Republican party.
               
               And your link has nothing to do with your previous comments.

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                  jackclee lmposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                  On the contray, my link has everything to do with what is going on. Justice Kennedy is saying how low the decorum has sunk in these proceedings that it represents a threat to our republic.

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                  wildernessposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                  Bulldookey.  YOU are the only person in this thread speaking of gang rape.  YOU were the first to mention it and the ONLY one to mention it.  YOU have inserted those words and are trying to put them into posts where the writer did not.
                  
                  Shame.

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      wildernessposted 4 years agoin reply to this

      Interesting point.  A SCOTUS judge interprets the law, but Congress MAKES the law!

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         jackclee lmposted 4 years agoin reply to this

         Yes but they both have impact on our lives, and right to abortion is top on that list and what this whole debate over Kavanaugh is about...

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            wildernessposted 4 years agoin reply to this

            That was the point.  Which has more impact; the laws passed (affecting virtually every person in the country) or the relatively few cases before SCOTUS that typically affect a handful of people?  I'd have to go with the thousands and thousands of laws.

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               jackclee lmposted 4 years agoin reply to this

               No, becuase the one decision like gay marriage or abortion affected millions of people...

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                  wildernessposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                  You're losing me here - "no" because laws were passed to allow gay people to marry, or "No" because the court found them to be constitutional?  Or both?

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      promisemposted 4 years agoin reply to this

      Maryland has no statute of limitations for rape or sexual assault.
      
      If you want Supreme Court justices and members of Congress to rape women in high school and get away with it, then change the law.

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         Ed Fisherposted 4 years agoin reply to this

         Allegedly..........? All anyone has to do is enter Prof. Fords testimony before senate as "evidence " in any court or in front of a grand jury . Any judge  would say , Bring me some evidence !
         
         Case Closed .

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            promisemposted 4 years agoin reply to this

            Where did I use the words Ford or Kavanaugh?

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               Ed Fisherposted 4 years agoin reply to this

               Well what ARE we talking about then ?

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         wildernessposted 4 years agoin reply to this

         Ummm  The suggestion was to prevent getting away with it.  Along with a host of other matters deemed "unacceptable" in our leaders.  Not sure what the comment on the SOL has to do with anything, for no court of law has been mentioned anywhere, by anyone.  Just the morality and ethics of alleged activities that cannot be shown to have happened (which is a statement about morals and ethics all by itself, isn't it?).

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            promisemposted 4 years agoin reply to this

            Incorrect. He is obviously complaining about scrutiny.
            
            His quote: "If this is the new standard, I predict no one will pass this level with the exception of Jesus."

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               jackclee lmposted 4 years agoin reply to this

               Yes you are right. I am complaining about when or at what age we should go back an investigate allegation? How about jr. High school or kidergarden? Or is it only matter if the judge is a conservative?

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                  promisemposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                  How about when breaking the law and committing a serious felony? There is no age limit.
                  
                  Please read more about the laws in this country before offering grossly inaccurate opinions about them.

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                     jackclee lmposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                     Where were you when Bill Clinton was impeached with real stain dress...?
                     If you really cared, you have to be consistent.

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   Ed Fisherposted 4 years ago

   The democratic party has self destructed , no help required , at least the old RNC needed a  little Trump shove to get there .

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   Ed Fisherposted 4 years ago

   To the O.P.?  "Public Service " or any claim to that by today's servants is raft with foggy issues , side deals , cronyism with benefits , future lobbyist's , look at Joe Biden and Sons Inc. ,office holding is best described as  just going through the required first phase of public service . Fact .
   
   How do you or anyone suppose that on a government salary ---millionaires  are created faster than in the private sector today ? 
   Maxine Waters , Nancy Pelosi , Joe Biden ,Bernie Sanders ,  the Obama's , for God's sake the Clinton Mafia , on the other side of the aisle too ?

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   Ed Fisherposted 4 years ago

   See just how easily a alleged  sexual assault of a minor by a minor  manifests to "gang rape " in the mind of the left ?    Next thing , why don't we throw in that these  kids were " 1 % er motorcycle gangs " gang raping innocent little girls ?  You can't win debating the ideology of the left  .As shown with this senate panel as the goal posts keep moving ............and midterms keep moving closer .  It's so easy to see the agenda here .   
   
   Next week ; A Hypnosis display on the senate floor ?

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      promisemposted 4 years agoin reply to this

      Don't you read before spouting nonsense? Julie Swetnick said he and others drugged women so they could be gang raped.

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   Ed Fisherposted 4 years ago

   In the mean time the democrats keep moving the goal posts  closer to midterms ; 
   
   
   While they lay waste the issues of real sexual assault against women .

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