Trump Threatens Stopping Aid to Central American , Finally !

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   Ed Fisherposted 4 years ago

   It's about time .   There is only one way to "skin that cat ".  End the hundreds of millions of dollars in Foreign aid to all these exporters of poverty , crime ,  anchor fathers ,  drugs ...............
   
   Do it Trump !

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   Live to Learnposted 4 years ago

   I saw the caravan headed our way. It's mind boggling but I guess if you live under lawlessness long enough laws mean nothing to you.
   
   However, I fear that telling a government which places no value on the well being of its citizens that money will cease to flow if they allow citizens to flee will not end well.
   
   Free democracies will eventually have to come to grips with the fact that when decent people have to walk 2,600 miles to feel safe and believe they have a chance to work and prosper then the government they are fleeing has failed its people and have lost the right to govern. Trump should sever aid to those governments. The fact that these people have to cross 2 other countries to get here is an indictment against those countries also.

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   Ed Fisherposted 4 years ago

   When each individual central --south American country receives 60 to  175 Million dollars a year in "foreign aid "from the US for the advancement of their societies , economies and government graft and corruptions ,say nothing about aiding their  health care and national defenses .   And all  the US gets are their undesirable newborns ,criminals , poverty and health care risks  in human trafficking waves ?
   
   1- We could have a lot more for "free "in America if we stopped that foreign aid .
   
   2- That "free" money alone should be very attractive to our own leftists .
   That alone shocks me !

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   Live to Learnposted 4 years ago

   That's a despicable stand. Undesirable newborns???? Criminals?
   
   We can see young children in the video, so we would simply disagree on the assumption that they are undesirable. As to criminal...do you have anything to back the claim or do you just believe anyone looking for a life outside of their own nation a criminal? Because, making your way to our border on foot isn't a criminal act.

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      Ed Fisherposted 4 years agoin reply to this

      Actually it is a crime , hence "illegal immigration ",   Illegal immigration  on our southern borders  IS their only form of  birth control , IS hispanic countries form of crime control , overpopulation ,  their whole idea of spending our foreign aid dollars is to export their problems in their GDP of overpopulation to us while at the same time using our aid in enriching their own individual politicians ?
      
      Worry not however Trump will end it .

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         Live to Learnposted 4 years agoin reply to this

         Waking 2600 miles is not a crime. If they attempt to enter the country illegally, that would be.

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            Ed Fisherposted 4 years agoin reply to this

            And ?

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               Live to Learnposted 4 years agoin reply to this

               I guess my point is you can stop calling them criminals.
               
               Edit. If you could stop calling newborns undesirables that would be nice too.

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                  Ed Fisherposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                  Is one who plans on robbing a bank not a criminal ? You're losing your argument if you deny they intend on crossing . Besides , how many borders are they illegally crossing in the process of their journey ,take a look at a map of the Americas lately?

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                     Live to Learnposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                     You and I do not know the laws of other countries. I couldn't say if the caravan is doing anything illegally in those countries.
                     
                     Also, we have legal stations for entry into the U.S.  Now, people who are not U.S. citizens are not afforded all of the benefits of citizenship but innocent until proven guilty seems a fair benefit we should extend to all. Whether citizen or not.

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                        Ed Fisherposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                        If Illegal Immigrants crossing Mexico are not Mexican  , they have compromised laws more extreme than American immigration laws one and two  if you chose naivete in recognizing international law that's your issue not mine or anyone else's ,  they are criminal to our laws when they cross here  and despite Obama's ignoring the enforcing of  immigration laws at least  something is being done about it now .

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                           Live to Learnposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                           Addressing the problem from a position of hate is not the way to resolve the problem. Your selfish lack of regard for human misery is astounding.  What's more astounding is that you aren't even aware enough to understand it is an embarrassing position you attempt to defend.

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                              Ed Fisherposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                              Astounding  ?  I would call astounding  the total naivete of your outlook on illegal immigration one and two , the idea that you think America isn't  ALREADY one of the most philanthropic  peoples in the world !    Three,  Who said I hate , You ?   
                              
                              It isn't hate to demand an adherence [for once] to the existing immigration laws by our elected leaders .  If you think that's hate , then you have the problem not  those who want such accountability  .If I were you I'd Try not to get all worked up , it only leads to early health issues .

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                                 wildernessposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                                 On this I'm with you.  There is a huge gap between "hate" and "welcoming anyone that can get here with open arms and pocketbooks".

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                                    Live to Learnposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                                    No one said anything about welcoming with open arms and pocket books. But people should not be denigrated just because they feel their life must change. They shouldn't be called criminals for thinking they may be able to enter the United States and there is nothing criminal in thinking you might be given entry, legally.
                                    
                                    Criminal would only begin if attempting to enter illegally.

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                                       wildernessposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                                       LTL, it is really hard for me to think that they believe the "doors are open" here.  They have to know better; many have apparently already made arrangements to sneak across somewhere other than the official crossing.
                                       
                                       While I certainly believe that some actually DO believe in the "land of milk and honey, with streets paved of gold" type of thing, I also have to believe that they are a small minority.  Even in third world countries there are thousands of people that have tried and been shipped back to spread the word.  It just cannot be a secret that the doors are slammed shut.
                                       
                                       Of course, the idiot lawyers that couch them on claiming refugee status don't help, but even so they have to know it is a long shot.

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                                          Live to Learnposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                                          I suspect similarly but.... innocent until proven guilty.
                                          
                                          I don't even blame them. I blame our government for using these people for political games and not overhauling our immigration policies into sustainable law.

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                                 Live to Learnposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                                 Labeling children as 'undesirable' and calling people you have no information on 'criminals' labeled you hateful. Not any belief that our laws and regulations must be adhered to.

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                                    Ed Fisherposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                                    They are ILLEGAL ,  do you not understand that actual term ?  Lets see if I can explain this LTL ,  as they cross our borders they then become illegal .
                                    
                                    But you already know that don't you .  And no , I do not want  anyone  from central and south America breaking our existing LEGAL immigration quota laws .

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                                       Hxprofposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                                       Until they cross our borders, Ed, they're NOT illegal as far as the US is concerned.  This is partly what LTL is saying.

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   Ed Fisherposted 4 years ago

   Besides of 1,000,000 LEGAL Immigrants arriving here yearly ,  at what point aren't we exploiting the legal immigrant for the illegal immigrant , the costs alone would do better justice to settle legal immigrants rather than policing , housing ,feeding ,  ........
   
   It doesn't have to be an EITHER or an OR situation ,  organized , legal immigration is all there should be at this point in our history , Americans live daily in a contractual existence , we live ,work and breath by the laws of our land . It's long past time everyone did .

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