Here we go. Debate #2 Day #2 of the Democrat Candidates Debate.
Hey, The National DNC speaker, (he also spoke last night - the first night of debates), is a great speaker. What an energetic guy. He is very well suited to his job.
Pre-debate hubbub is about whether Biden can shake the "old man," (not just by age or ideas, but by actual perception), perception that many pundits think has attached itself to him.
Hey this DNC chairman, Tom Pacer, is a hellufva speaker.
Off we go . . .
GA
Opening statements:
de Blasio -*sigh predictable and a nothinburger.
Bennet - classrooms not cages, who is this guy?
Inslee: national mobilization? We can do big things? Ugh.
Gillibrand: We need a nominee . . . but not her.
Gabbard: Justice and equality, of by and for the people . . . ehhh. . .
Castro: I will work hard every single day . . . yawn . . .
Yang: I want to give every American $1000 a month. How do we pay for it? Not with Mr. Yang's ideas.
Booker: Oh hell, it's the Baltimore issue - hecklers interrupt, then, who are we as a people . . . ehhh . . . .
Harris: Question; "Who are we, answer, we are better than this." I like it.
Biden: "I am running for president to restore the soul of this country." Challenged president to see what America is. We are not going to leave it to you. I like it.
GA
Harris on healthcare, I like it. But, Biden doesn't, now it's a battle of details.
Harris says her plan addresses everyone, Harris says his plan leaves out 10 million people.
Ouch, Biden hits back with stats. $3 Trillion costs - score +1 Biden.
Blasio jumps in - limp biscuit, folks angry at private healthcare.
Biden ends with fix Obamacare, not Medicare for all.
Gillibrand: People can't afford healthcare - good point.
Harris response to Biden: Analysis says her health plan is studied to be workable and yours is not.
Biden: if you like your plan you should be able to keep it. Score; +1 Biden
Booker on healthcare, yawn.
Moving on . . .
OMG! Healthcare argument; de Blasio, Bennet, Biden. Biden says it's a bunch of malarky! Way to go Joe. +1 Biden.
Harris: Decriminalize illegal border crossings - "it's all about the children . . ." -1 Harris.
Hells bells, this is too much work, you folks watch for yourselves.
GA
GA you seem impartial to Biden.
I hope the Democrats come up with someone else, Biden is not going to sell to the people on the fence, 'Creepy Old Joe' will become the common theme, his 40+ years of D.C. politics is not a sellable point, people are sick and tired of old politics and old politicians.
And Biden is not going to be able to handle Trump, Biden got wiped by Paul Ryan in the VP debates years ago, he isn't going to sway America by fumbling around in his debates with Trump.
Biden certainly cannot outlie Trump by any means, if that's what you mean, Ken. I think we all can agree on that...
I am at this point Ken. The other serious contenders are too far left for me.
Except, maybe, if . . Warren. I am really disappointed with the far-left platforms she has taken on to pander to very progressive Democrats.
Hopefully, if she does get the nomination maybe the pragmatist in her will realize the danger of those radical ideas relative to the moderate and Independent voters that she will need to win the election.
GA
As you may know, I watch almost no tv these days, so what part of the debates I have seen have been from YouTube videos.
I watched a very interesting video made by a young man that identifies as a liberal, if you have the time take a look, I am interested on you take:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B97XmmpXjwM
I don't think Biden will create the excitement necessary to defeat Trump either. He needed to define himself without evoking Obama, which he did not. He needed to show that he isn't out of touch, but massacred his own website in the closing remarks.
The first thing Kirsten Nielsen will do as president is "fumigate the White House."
LOL!
Kushner's properties are known for being infested with both rats and fleas according to the latest reports. He does visit the WH frequently....
And I assume you meant Kirsten Gillibrand, Pretty?
Kirsten Gillibrand's attack on Biden regarding working women made her look desperate. I was rolling my eyes the whole time.
I thought Biden held his own considering everyone was out to get him.
Harris didn't do a great job of defending her health care plan. It was confusing.
Cory Booker finally came off well for a change,
Overall, though, I think Warren's showing the previous night eclipsed everyone.
Harris also took the low road in her comments after the debate. Instead of responding to Gabbard's criticism of her record as a prosecutor, she childishly the veteran an "Assad apologist". It seems she's opening herself up for more problems by wading into a foreign policy arena that she's not equipped for.
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