'PC' beyond the sophistry??

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   AshutoshJoshi06posted 4 years ago

   
   Found this on twitter. I can't say bout US but whatever happens in US never stays in there. Personally, PC to me always sounds like liberal way of saying:
   "Screw you, but have a nice day!"
   
   Thoughts, enlightenment???
   
   PS:Ignore the top right

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      hard sunposted 4 years agoin reply to this

      I think we are at the point in America where the bigger problems is basic human decency and treating others how you would want to be treated. Not being decent is too often confused with not being PC. To be a great nation, I think you have to be decent people, or your institutions will fall apart and the rest of the world will not follow your lead.

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         MizBejabbersposted 4 years agoin reply to this

         There is a big difference between human decency and PC. In fact, some PC is so ridiculous as to be discrimination in itself.

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            hard sunposted 4 years agoin reply to this

            I agree. This is the other side of the extreme I mentioned. We have people screaming about black pumpkins--see the recent BedBath&Beyond fiasco, and then we have people who say any rude thing that pops into their heads, calling people names and basically acting like our president. They defend it with, welp, I'm just not PC I guess. I think it's all just rubbish.

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               AshutoshJoshi06posted 4 years agoin reply to this

               I don't know but I tend to mostly see the undertones in PC, even if that was unintended. Something as ridiculous as 'people of color'.

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                  hard sunposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                  I see it there also, but  I don't see the same kind of harm with such semantic examples as the real life "outrage" that tends to limit freedoms. I'll call an individual, or a group, whatever they want to be called. That seems like a basic respect issue.

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                     MizBejabbersposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                     I agree, Hard Sun, but I don't like being called down if I slip and call the person something else, like refer to them under their old moniker. PC can get ridiculous. I have a good friend who is multiracial: black, white, Asian, and also claims Native American and Mexican. One day I slipped and used the word "Oriental" when referring to an Asian. She immediately corrected me to Asian. I didn't take it as well as I let on. After all, a store in this town, The Oriental Store, owned by a Chinese family has been here for close to 70 years, and they haven't seen fit to change the name to The Asian Store.

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                        hard sunposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                        Good point. People can get very self-righteous about what I often see as just semantics, as your story seems to reflect.

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                  MizBejabbersposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                  Yes, I don't see some of the differences between today and yesteryear. For instance, when I was a child, we were taught to say "colored people" as a term of respect for a black person, but we still called Native Americans "Indians". Today to say colored person is considered racist. The difference I see here is that "colored people" refers only to black people and not people of other races of color, while "people of color" does not. I see it as a catchall for noncaucasian, especially in advertising. Again, for instance, makeup companies used to make foundations for white women only, then they started making darker shades for "women of color" which meant all (races) shades of women darker than caucasian.
                  My multi-race friend (I referred to her in another comment) corrected me one day when I referred to "Black". She corrected me to say "African American". I came back all people of that lineage aren't African Americans. This former coworker to whom I was referring was an an African Ibo tribesman who was attending a local university. I had a couple of coworkers in the past who were from Africa on working visas and a lovely little Jamaican college student who was my intern at a radio station. My friend thought about it and realized that she could be in error. I informed her that I wasn't keen on PC, so she would just have to put up with me. We laughed about it. She finally stopped trying to correct me because she realized I didn't mean any disrespect.

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            Mark O Richardsonposted 4 years agoin reply to this

            I agree

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      Mark O Richardsonposted 4 years agoin reply to this

      I agree with Ben Carson. I am sick of PC. That's why one of my favorite shows to watch is "It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia." (It is not PC). I hate that society/the media tell us to be unique, to be ourselves, and do what we want. But really they want us to be the same.

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      MizBejabbersposted 4 years agoin reply to this

      "Screw you, but have a nice day" sounds more yuppie to me than liberal.
      It reminds me of the time in our metaphysical study group when the leader said we shouldn't harbor ill will toward people who upset us. We should send them our blessings instead. One male group member popped up and ask if somebody cuts us off in traffic, we should say, "bless you, 'you son-of-a-bitch'?" We all had a good laugh.
      And sometimes I think that is how we should look at PC.

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         AshutoshJoshi06posted 4 years agoin reply to this

         Good one. In fact I am the darker shade of brown and totally cool with the 'screw it' way. But I guess these days being offended as well as offence itself comes left, right, centre. Even on both sides of PC, people just don't know where to draw the line. Then there is the politics of it.

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            MizBejabbersposted 4 years agoin reply to this

            "...darker shade of brown..." I'll bet your complexion is beautiful. I am not a pale shade of white, like the "peaches and cream" complexions of Northern Europeans, although 23andme says my DNA is 100% European. I think my complexion reflects my tiny smidge of Italian or my Native American genes, which my DNA test couldn't seem to detect. One day during a serious discussion, my multiracial friend remarked that I was darker than some of her African American friends. I was surprised to hear that, but somewhat pleased. My WWII dad brought home photos of lovely Polynesian ladies from the Pacific, and after that I wanted to look like them.

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